Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[AfghanBlue]

This whole saga is a great cautionary lesson about the damage bitter divorcefags do to their offspring.

Adults tied up in their idiotic sexual psychodramas create narcissistic troon offspring as sure as a horse and a donkey make a mule.

This is supposed to be a support thread, pretty unnessecary as well as irrelevant: troons seem to have oddly above average intact families.

 

[Procrastinhater]

Idk if it's relevant but I had to share the loli loving, pegging begging, dude that thought he had me wrapped around his girlcock for life.

Well done on getting away from Buffalo Bill. Sounds like that fucker deserve a short rope and a low drop.
And kudos on getting clean. One day at a time. You got this.

That fucker sounds like a typical predator, sociopaths have a radar for people who are going through bad shit, their defenses are already at breaking point so its easier for those bastards to chip away. They're fucking monsters.

Glad you're doing better now.

 

[OnionMuncher]

Well done on getting away from Buffalo Bill. Sounds like that fucker deserve a short rope and a low drop.
And kudos on getting clean. One day at a time. You got this.

That fucker sounds like a typical predator, sociopaths have a radar for people who are going through bad shit, their defenses are already at breaking point so its easier for those bastards to chip away. They're fucking monsters.

Glad you're doing better now.

I don't wanna reply to everyone here that responds and shit up the thread but this is truly a support thread. I hate saying thanks but I appreciate all the reminders to be a little better to myself. It helps a lot when it's randys on the net and not people that are socially responsible to tell you good things about yourself, like your mom.
Getting clean was actually super easy. It was hard to cut out all the people I thought were friends until I realized all we did was get high and once we didn't they were really fucking annoying.

Y'all might enjoy knowing I would read KF while waiting for my sobriety meetings to start. Funny enough, it helped me justify my anger at the world while remaining realistic about what to expect from it. Luna Slater, my patron saint of failed sobriety, was the first thread I read all the way through. She's still on my mind when I think about drugs, and it's easy to say no.

Kiwifarms, the only drug PSA that worked on me.

 

[Foxymophandlemama]

I had a friend that I met on the internet because of some mutual tastes. He is 2 years younger than me and we mostly talked about music, specially metal. He was your typical metalhead and for a while he was kinda clingy because he had a crush on me and it pissed me off and we drifted apart but remained friends.
Short amount of time after that he started identifying as NB and wore makeup, which I interpreted as, idk, becoming goth? He would send me texts saying "I miss you, don't know why we aren't talking as much as before".
Then he starts dating this troon and things go downhill. Girl clothes, painting nails, now only refers himself as she. Hates the metal bands he used to love so much. Says he is more comfortable with himself now but all his pictures are edited to hell and back, specially to make his waist to look more feminine. I am just counting the days until he fully troons out, and it breaks my heart because I miss him too. I miss talking about weird metal bands, sending memes and stuff. But that friend doesn't exist anymore, now he only talks about gender special stuff and how oppressed he feels.
I really want to point out how unhappy he looks now, specially compared to when we started talking. How his photo edits are crappy and he looks fine naturally. But I will be called a transphobe.
I was planning to visit him before all that stuff, now I'm gonna spend that money in something more worthy.

Came back to this post to inform that he's taking estrogen. I just can't anymore. He says he's happy on Instagram but on his Twitter he talks about how miserable he is all the time.

 

[Ann Berlin]

Came back to this post to inform that he's taking estrogen. I just can't anymore. He says he's happy on Instagram but on his Twitter he talks about how miserable he is all the time.

I hate when they give up genuine interests that connect them to people for some nebulous concept of gender. Some troons adopt gender when they have no personality or hobbies in the first place but seeing a whole person become a stupid gender is even more tragic. And for what? It doesn't even make them happy.

If you don't suspect he will suddenly detrans then take advantage of your status as an online friend. Ask him how this makes him happy. Ask him why the music he loved suddenly stopped being appealing. Ask him why he posts edited photos if he feels like he's posting his true self.
That is, if you're brave enough to lose him as a friend. But it sounds like he might already be heading in that direction....

 

[Foxymophandlemama]

I hate when they give up genuine interests that connect them to people for some nebulous concept of gender. Some troons adopt gender when they have no personality or hobbies in the first place but seeing a whole person become a stupid gender is even more tragic. And for what? It doesn't even make them happy.

If you don't suspect he will suddenly detrans then take advantage of your status as an online friend. Ask him how this makes him happy. Ask him why the music he loved suddenly stopped being appealing. Ask him why he posts edited photos if he feels like he's posting his true self.
That is, if you're brave enough to lose him as a friend. But it sounds like he might already be heading in that direction....

To be honest our friendship nowadays is just liking each other's posts. We were close like... 4 years ago? So now I don't have enough intimacy to ask him about that stuff. And oh, he's doing cocaine too. The euphoria of it all.
Anyways, I will try not to mourn too much. I can only hope that he will see how it is ruining him, get his shit together, get clean and start chasing the dreams he told me years ago.

 

[Aunt Carol]

He says he's happy on Instagram but on his Twitter he talks about how miserable he is all the time.

Troonery aside, that's so manipulative. If you end up in a Talk with him (which is obviously not going to be fruitful but sometimes just happens) don't mention the estrogen.

It never helps, and you're in the right if you can I-statement about how you feel confused and manipulated when he's claiming to be ecstatic and also miserable at the same time. We're not living authentically, are we?

 

[Big Bobs Beepers]

To be honest our friendship nowadays is just liking each other's posts. We were close like... 4 years ago? So now I don't have enough intimacy to ask him about that stuff. And oh, he's doing cocaine too. The euphoria of it all.
Anyways, I will try not to mourn too much. I can only hope that he will see how it is ruining him, get his shit together, get clean and start chasing the dreams he told me years ago.

As much as I really hate to say it, when drugs and troonery come into the picture, it's all downhill from there. I've been through something very similar to that, and while I did hold out hope for a while, I kind of knew it was over when he started to get really into weed and eventually acid when he moved to this faggy college town with a genderspecial. It's been about 6 years since, and me and his bro know he's never coming back

Something I've noticed is that all troons are enablers, and when they ensnare people into their cult, that said person always ends up hooked on some sort of drug that fries their brain. Mixing mental illnesses with drug use never ends well, and the last thing any troon wants to do is get advice from someone who's not gonna just give them asspats

Really hope I'm wrong and your friend finds a way to fix his shit, because it'll always sting

 

[Ghostie with the Mostie]

We’ve just started working with our new hires on a closer basis, and one is a f t m Troon. They tried telling me (natal woman) that trans women have periods because of HRT. They just brought up the topic unprovoked, and are quite clearly a militant Troon since they’ve got the trans flag in every single one of their social media’s. They’re also shit at their job and since I’m a manager I have to speak to them about it next week. In before I get accused of transphobia for saying they’re useless at work.

 

[NerdShamer]

They’re also shit at their job and since I’m a manager I have to speak to them about it next week. In before I get accused of transphobia for saying they’re useless at work.

Make sure to record every conversation that you have with her! Cuz we all know how this shit will turn out.

 

[redboxrazor]

I've lost many friends to troonism, but one hurt more than all the rest combined. My best friend, Jacob. It was a herculean effort keeping out friendship together. He was so lonely and so distant. Always hurting. When I got him to open up, it was like staring at the face of chaos - a jumbled mess of emotion that had never been put into words. Despite this, he was so much fun and had a lot of depth to his character. It didn't take long before he started to crack and open up more and more. It didn't take long before he was my best friend, and before I realized I was in love with him.

He kept hinting that he had something he wanted to tell me, but always held back. One day, I pushed hard enough to finally hear was it was that bothered him. He admitted that he had autogynephilia. I didn't know enough about troon stuff back then to understand where this was heading. He told me that he liked to pretend he had a pussy when he masturbated, and imagine that he was being eaten out. I just laughed and said "Like I would ever judge you for something like that."

He became more and more distant. Started ignoring calls from friends. Locking himself in his room to play League of Legends. According to his roommate, the pizza boxes would pile up outside his door. Eventually, he found an absolutely shitty way out of our friendship (too long of a story for this post) - something he would apologize for much later.

Months went by. I was deeply hurt at having lost him as a friend. He texted me at some point, many months later, to apologize. We had dinner together. He told me about this "great new therapist" he was seeing, and how he had started taking antidepressants. He said he wanted to hang out again, but that we "couldn't be best friends anymore" (whatever the fuck that was supposed to mean). I was still sort of shellshocked by how he had treated me in the past, and how he thought he could just casually say "let's be friends but not like before". I left it at that and didn't contact him again.

Within a year, he had changed his name to Jess, moved to Seattle, and judging by photos he appeared to be a pretty terrible-looking troon wreck. Insanity, as he used to be an incredibly attractive guy. Funny, smart. Doesn't matter. I lost my best friend, and someone I loved, and it tore me apart.

I hope his imitation pussy feels good, at least.

 

[Product Placement]

My 14-year-old niece has just come out as a pooner, honestly not shocking. She always wanted to be "special", the center of attention, and her parents gave her unfettered use of social media, just felt like a time bomb waiting to happen, if it wasn't this would have been something else.

Her parents are supporting her because it's easier than parenting. The youngest one they have now has "ADHD" but I have a feeling what he really has come from using YouTube kid's video to parent him. The moral lessons are don't allow kids to use social media, don't have kids when you aren't even 20 yet, and still have much growing up to do your self.

 

[Deer In Headlights]

My brother transitioned roughly 20 years ago. I was like a child when he started presenting as a girl so I just accepted I had a sister now and that was that for me.
He is actually one of those rare ones with real gender dysphoria. No trauma to speak of. Before this whole troon movement took off and opened it's doors for all sort of perverts I was supportive over the ones with actual dysphoria that cannot be treated with meds.
Now I'm just sick of them. I don't wanna hear about trans shit all the time I'm exhausted. My mentally ill brother can't have a conversation with us without bringing up tranny shit. He behaves no different than the typical troon.Egoistical, narcissistic, complete victimhood mentality.
He's miserable and rejects any advice on self-improvement. It's like talking to a broken record. Drives my parents nuts too.
I'm glad this thread exists. Everyone only talks about what the poor trannies go through. No one wants to talk about the damage they do to their families. They're like back holes that will suck you dry.

Fuck trannies they ruin everything.

 

[Aunt Carol]

He is actually one of those rare ones with real gender dysphoria. No trauma to speak of. [...]
My mentally ill brother can't have a conversation with us without bringing up tranny shit. He behaves no different than the typical troon.Egoistical, narcissistic, complete victimhood mentality.
He's miserable and rejects any advice on self-improvement. It's like talking to a broken record. Drives my parents nuts too.

Pardon if I misread, but are you saying that your brother was a reasonable, three-dimensional person (other than being transsexual) but once transgenderism became popular, he turned into a stereotypical whiny troon?

That would be really interesting to hear more about; losing an established transsexual to transgenderism.

 

[Deer In Headlights]

Pardon if I misread, but are you saying that your brother was a reasonable, three-dimensional person (other than being transsexual) but once transgenderism became popular, he turned into a stereotypical whiny troon?

That would be really interesting to hear more about; losing an established transsexual to transgenderism.

I would not go that far he was never reasonable but he's definitely more unstable now. Though I think that's more due to aging. He always had an entitled attitude and blamed my mother for not putting him on puberty blockers (which was not a legal option in my country at the time). He was able to hold down a full-time job at least though. He quit because he got misgendered in a mail. He claims he cannot work in any environment because everyone clocks him instantly as trans (which is BS). It's disheartening because the issue is obviously in his head. Now he's older and his dysphoria is worse. He goes on forums looking for "transphobic" content to prove how oppressed he is. So yes, transgenderism becoming popular has made things worse because he feeds of the "trans genocide" crowd. Hell he even rants about JK Rowling and he has all her Harry Potter books. It's bizarre almost like a fake outrage.

 

[Kit Marz]

I'm convinced my brother is going to transition soon. He's gay and a narcissist. Almost every conversation he has is about himself, some bleeding heart political outrage that he doesn't really care about, but he regurgitates it because it's the "correct" viewpoint to hold, or he goes on a rant about how terrible men are. He tries to get my mom and sister to join in on his rants against men, but they are both married to men they love and trust and don't hate people by default. He gets surprised when they don't join in. Recently he's been acting as if he knows the plights of women and tries to speak for them. Any woman he's around gets annoyed and tries to correct him at first, but he gets angry and defensive and brow beats them until they give in and tells him that he's right. I genuinely think he thinks he's one of the girls, he's always trying to push himself into woman spaces and will argue until people give in. My family and I have tried to stop him, but nothing works.

 

[redboxrazor]

I'm convinced my brother is going to transition soon. He's gay and a narcissist. Almost every conversation he has is about himself, some bleeding heart political outrage that he doesn't really care about, but he regurgitates it because it's the "correct" viewpoint to hold, or he goes on a rant about how terrible men are. He tries to get my mom and sister to join in on his rants against men, but they are both married to men they love and trust and don't hate people by default. He gets surprised when they don't join in. Recently he's been acting as if he knows the plights of women and tries to speak for them. Any woman he's around gets annoyed and tries to correct him at first, but he gets angry and defensive and brow beats them until they give in and tells him that he's right. I genuinely think he thinks he's one of the girls, he's always trying to push himself into woman spaces and will argue until people give in. My family and I have tried to stop him, but nothing works.

Sorry you have to go through that. It sounds like he is really egotistical, and there's just no winning with someone like that.

 

[Aunt Carol]

He tries to get my mom and sister to join in on his rants against men, but they are both married to men they love and trust and don't hate people by default. He gets surprised when they don't join in.

You gotta call him out on his internalized misandry, dude.

But seriously, if you can see the troon train chugging along the bend, maybe you could at least amuse yourself by telling him that his duty in progressive spaces is to use his male privilege to speak up against things like what he's complaining about. It's powerful, y'see, when the offending men look at your brother and see someone who's undeniably, unmistakably male, but still able to tell them the correct way to think and behave. It's cowardly for your brother to try to distance himself from other men with words alone, imposing on women to do the emotional labor and absolve him of his male privilege, if he's not going to do anything to change other men's bad behavior when he sees it.

Or just avoid him; whichever is least annoying to you.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

maybe you could at least amuse yourself by telling him that his duty in progressive spaces is to use his male privilege to speak up against things like what he's complaining about

Telling something like that to a FTM would actually be a great tactic without breaking PC logic.

"oh Lil'Poon, you wouldn't understand, you have male priviledge"

 

[AfroMegan]

There was this guy called "Cygnus Destroyer", also known as "The LJN defender". By 2021 or 2022 he trooned out as a non-binary and changed his name to Mx. Morgan Enby and Saphic Sorceress. Anyway, there was a time where you could see his posts on trans subreddits, mostly on r/egg|_irl and he was definitely into it, like a newcomer to a cult. Some of his earlier complaints were about how he looked like too masculine to pass as a non-binary, and as the time went on, he fully embraced his "feminine" side. This was after he stopped putting content on his channel.
Some months later, people found out about his transition. He deleted every trace of his new persona from the internet. He didn't deleted his videos in respect to his old fans, at first. Several months passed and, recently, he changed his mind about his old self and deleted every bit of his old content (which was reuploaded by fans, thankfully). My hypothesis is that he 's even deeper into the trans ideology that now he believes in that old cliche: "your old self died and everyone is forbid to remember about the old you". This wish of rectroatively control the past which trannies have is one of the aspects I personally hate the most.

I used to eat lunch watching this nigga and rooting for him to get more subscribers. I'll never forget the tranny cult for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUrCfgQa6bY&list=PL31YNuDjHusdl6NYi25s_gw2cmCtGaBjv&ab_channel=TheSlumsArchive