2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

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polyester said:
Do you (if you were the Israeli government) really want to incite a religious civil war right now?
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A few pages back there are multiple (day-old) videos of Israeli soldiers rubbing their bullets against dead pig heads. I think the time for that particular rhetorical question has passed, as they're clearly already doing it.
 
Strasse said:
Yes. 100%. If I were Israel I'd be using this to the full advantage of giving myself a reason to toss all Muslims out and create a full ethno-state. I would 100% be doing everything possible to incite them in to chimping out and using the recent bloodlust as a reason to purge my nation of any potential future problems.

I'm not saying it's the morally right thing to do but if this was some kind of intentional failing to allow the absolute destruction of Gaza I'd also use it as an excuse to clear house of those who share the same religious sentiments as them.
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This would be a very bad idea, because that would involve purging about 2 million Israeli citizens for being Muslim. Generally speaking you can't make people stateless, and these people are only Israeli citizens because they're the descendants of Palestinians who stayed put in 1948, so you can't revoke their citizenship in a way that doesn't violate international law. Where would they go? Squeeze them all into the West Bank? Already got Jewish settlements there, that land's not for grabs. Even if it was, it's not mired in the language of "they chose to flee when we declared independence in the 1940s" but instead it's an established population in an established state that's being subject to ethnic cleansing.

If you're being really big brained, this might tie in on top of dealing with the 2 million Palestinians in Gaza and about another 2.5 million Palestinians in the West Bank, and trying to force them out of all of the land of Israel. At that point you'd be committing an act of ethnic cleansing on the scale of.... OVER 6 MILLION PALESTINIANS, which then officially means they've traded in their Holocaust bargaining chip in perpetuity.
 
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Strasse said:
Nigga I can't tell if you're legitimately retarded or just trying for some low tier bait but god damn you're insufferable as fuck.
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Find one example of missiles doing shit about shit. Find one example where missiles secured a political aim without other forms of violence also having to be used. Missiles are the muslims of the weapons world: they use all your resources and are prone to unexpected explosions.
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
Even Kahane said Arabs who pledged loyalty to Israel should be allowed to live in Israel as second class citizens, removing all arabs is insane.
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it could have been done in like 1919, when population density was very low and the post ww1 redrawing of borders was in full swing. the brits could have resettled all the muslims from mandatory palestine into transjordan (both british protectorates at the time) and it wouldn't have raised many eyebrows, because much larger scale happenings of similar nature were going on in the post ottoman world at the time, like the war between greece and turkey followed by massacres of anatolian greeks and major population transfers between turkey and greece.

but that ship has sailed, today israel doesn't realistically have the option to achieve that anymore. it doesn't have the superpower status that the british empire had back then, and muslim power in the world is significant today, while it was basically nonexistent back then.
 
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im5!XxhO said:
Is there some reason the Israeli put Iron in front of everything?

Also obligatory advisory: Jet fuel can't melt iron beams.
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Project leader Colonel S. and his team in the Administration for the Development of Weapons and Technological Infrastructure (Maf'at) needed an appropriate name for the system. According to Colonel S.,

The first name I thought of was 'Anti-Qassam', but when the project started to move forward I realized it was problematic... I sat down with my wife, and together we thought of suitable names. She suggested the name 'Tamir' (Hebrew acronym for טיל מיירט, Til Meyaret, 'interceptor missile') for the missile, and for the system itself we thought of 'Golden Dome'. The following Sunday, 'Tamir' was immediately approved, but there was a problem with 'Golden Dome'—it could be perceived as ostentatious. So it was changed to 'Iron Dome'.
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and Iron beam is an an extension of Iron Dome, just with a laser beam.
 
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Kiwiballs said:
We haven't had some music yet.





Personally I love Yiddish music so this is some oldschool. Back when the Jews were the guerillas!

And for peace, an old song calling for it from after the Yom Kippur War , always sung by children.

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Modern Israeli wartime classics. These two have featured in a lot of the Dancing Israelis videos:

HaEmunah ("The Faith"), composed as a religious alternative to what would become Israel's national anthem, HaTikva ("The Hope"). IMO one of the most beautiful songs in the Hebrew language.
 
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EyeGuy said:
Bodycam from Hamas terrorist taken out in Kibbutz Sufa. Not graphic, other than the audio. You can hear him say the shahada as he dies.
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Sunan Ibn Majah 181: I said: 'O Messenger of Allah, does the Lord laugh?' He said: 'Yes.'

 
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Illinois man killed Muslim boy, 6, in hate crime motivated by Israeli-Hamas war, police say​

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The boy, who was pronounced dead at the hospital, was stabbed 26 times with a large military-style knife, according to an autopsy Sunday, the sheriff’s office said. The woman had more than a dozen stab wounds on her body. She remained hospitalized Sunday, but was expected to survive.
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EyeGuy said:
Modern Israeli wartime classics. These two have featured in a lot of the Dancing Israelis videos:

HaEmunah ("The Faith"), composed as a religious alternative to what would become Israel's national anthem, HaTikva ("The Hope"). IMO one of the most beautiful songs in the Hebrew language.
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I love hebrew because of its structure and wanted to study it on general principle once upon a time but I can't agree with that. I think you have to have a religious connection to that song to find it so amazing, which you probably have. So to each their own but I much more prefer the current anthem.
Thanks for sharing all the songs though.
 
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