YouTube Historians/HistoryTube/PopHistory

[naaaaiiiiillllll!!!]

So Whatifalthist believes that oppression can lead to evolution? So things like genocide, slavery, and mass rape advance the human species?

Haven't been keeping up with Rudy (Whatifalthist), but he has been posting videos with titles begging to be demonitized:

Rudy "Zoomer Peterson" has also been putting random polls on his channel asking viewers random shit like "Should prostitution be legal?" or stuff like this:

These feel like questions people would mindlessly answer on a dating website to kill time. I need to catch-up on his videos but I think he's going a little bit mental too.

 

[Path Wanderer]

I never watch those ones just because it is always on how evil the Nazis are or downplaying Allied crimes as much as possible while trying to maintain non-partisanship. The week by week stuff with Indy is good though.

I for one just don’t like some of the theatrics Sparty pulls (as if the Holocaust really needs more dramatization) and to me not quoting sources as much as possible on a topic like genocide in WWII is criminal. Indi did it all the time with the original WWI series

 

[JJLiautaud]

An awful but little covered subject matter in mainstream popular sources. Undercuts the entire first half of the video when they insist on continuously making excuses for the US/French numbers in particular rather than letting their audience just hear the information without the blatant spoonfeeding. As per usual, Sparty's busy getting into childish slapfights in the comments.

Not watching the video because I hate overly dramatic discussions of war crimes, but does he talk at all about russian rapes, or is that such a no shit that you didnt include it.

 

[BirdUp]

These feel like questions people would mindlessly answer on a dating website to kill time. I need to catch-up on his videos but I think he's going a little bit mental too.

the algorithm recommends channels with polls better than other channels for some fucking reason

 

[Radola Gajda]

Not watching the video because I hate overly dramatic discussions of war crimes, but does he talk at all about russian rapes, or is that such a no shit that you didnt include it.

I doubt they would be willing to give USSR pass especially after current Russo-Ukrainan war. But I think they will make dedicated episode to Soviet war crimes.

 

[BlancoMailo]

Not watching the video because I hate overly dramatic discussions of war crimes, but does he talk at all about russian rapes, or is that such a no shit that you didnt include it.

Mostly in the second half of the video, the soviet crimes section is decent enough, Sparty also pulls out a pretty damning quote from Stalin:

I think a good section that highlights the issue with the front half of the video is this one:

At any point a number that makes them uncomfortable pops up, he immediately starts twisting himself into knots to the point that one of the people in the comment section several hours ago made a good point that it comes off more like he's trying to explain why the rapists were the actual victims once he starts getting into perpetrator demographics.

Mister "never forget the victims" would have been better off just dulling stating the numbers from a sheet of paper because this performance would almost be comical if this wasn't such a grim subject matter but he's utterly incapable of not connecting it to modern identity politics and it just bogs down the whole video as a result.

 

[Corpun]

Mostly in the second half of the video, the soviet crimes section is decent enough, Sparty also pulls out a pretty damning quote from Stalin:
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I think a good section that highlights the issue with the front half of the video is this one:

At any point a number that makes them uncomfortable pops up, he immediately starts twisting himself into knots to the point that one of the people in the comment section several hours ago made a good point that it comes off more like he's trying to explain why the rapists were the actual victims once he starts getting into perpetrator demographics.

Mister "never forget the victims" would have been better off just dulling stating the numbers from a sheet of paper because this performance would almost be comical if this wasn't such a grim subject matter but he's utterly incapable of not connecting it to modern identity politics and it just bogs down the whole video as a result.

121-41=80

So 80 of the soldiers were presumeably white then (sans maybe one or two asians or hispanics that might have been in the European theater). Not sure how this is an overepresentation than if a minority was comitting a minority of the rapes that resulted in convictions.

 

[Return of the Freaker]

121-41=80

So 80 of the soldiers were presumeably white then (sans maybe one or two asians or hispanics that might have been in the European theater). Not sure how this is an overepresentation than if a minority was comitting a minority of the rapes that resulted in convictions.

Fun fact: Emmet Till's dad was executed for multiple rapes in Italy

 

[JJLiautaud]

Fun fact: Emmet Till's dad was executed for multiple rapes in Italy

That is a fun fact.

 

[Seventh Star]

the algorithm recommends channels with polls better than other channels for some fucking reason

I think its as simple as you're putting out more content and filling more of youtube's space, so you're getting more clicks/views, ergo you get pushed more because you're engaging with users.

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

Since nobody else seems to have the wherewithal, I'll continue with Atun-Shei's Youtube.

On a disconcertingly related note, it's crazy to see the kind of people who consider John Brown and General Sherman righteous bringers of wrath unequivocally condemn Israel's using precisely the same sort of tactics against Hamas. The absolute belief in the righteousness of a given cause seems inevitably to lead to the belief that one's opponents are therefore savages, and to impair one's ability to reason on principle.

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The modern people who identify with abolitionists bring to mind a certain Tom Lehrer quote:
"One type of song that has come into increasing prominence in recent months is the Folk Song of Protest. You have to admire people who sing these songs; it takes a certain amount of courage to get up in a coffee house or a college auditorium and come out in favor of the things that everybody else in the audience is against, like peace and justice and brotherhood and so on."

Any discussion of abolition, or really of American Negro slavery online, tends to elicit the attention of interesting people. Let's see the comments section.
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John Brown was a violent, retarded domestic terrorist and the people who praise him should never be taken seriously or listened to. The fact this failed walking guide gets so many people to listen to his low IQ takes is proof that any idea of actual knowledge being transmitted by the internet is a horribly underestimated lie. The fact they think they would be Confederate/Southerner slaughtering heroes is laughable considering that during the Civil War, slavery and its political issues were not all that important to the troops and majority of the population on either side. These people would have been fence sitters at best, and ambivalent entirely at worst. Only through the anonymity of the internet can people like this jerk off about how morally right they are in a 21st century lens.

Looking at these comments and the people who make them reminds me of the foreword to a book about Cornwallis I read recently that sums it up nicely, written as it was during the Floyd-fuckery of 2020: "Nevertheless, even dead white men have a claim to be understood not least because the heroes and noble causes of today will surely become the misguided zealots or disregarded ideologies of tomorrow."

I write this wall of text because history matters to me, but it can only be truly understood in my experience when you look at it through a fair and open mind, not one held by any kind of personal hatred or modern moral righteousness. I'm not a fan of slavery, but that doesn't mean I think anyone who fought in a grey uniform was an American version of the SS. The idea of painting a wide brush on the various issues that lead to the secession of the Southern states is either through stupidity or genuine malice.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

John Brown was a violent, retarded domestic terrorist and the people who praise him should never be taken seriously or listened to.

correction: he was a based violent retarded domestic terrorist

 

[Kulee Baba]

This is one of my favorite whackjob Youtube History videos and there's a part 2 which is very much worth watching.

I'm left listening to this Muslims cry about Kemalism and it makes me think "DAMN ATATURK WAS THE MAN!" I have to concede I haven't researched enough about Ataturk to really have an informed opinion but the man presented as trying to "DESTROY" Islam (by secularizing it) would be one of the greatest men who ever lived.

 

[>tfw no Asian gf]

This is one of my favorite whackjob Youtube History videos and there's a part 2 which is very much worth watching.

I'm left listening to this Muslims cry about Kemalism and it makes me think "DAMN ATATURK WAS THE MAN!" I have to concede I haven't researched enough about Ataturk to really have an informed opinion but the man presented as trying to "DESTROY" Islam (by secularizing it) would be one of the greatest men who ever lived.

I've always wondered how Atatürk would react upon seeing modern day Turkey and whatever the fuck Erdogan is doing.

 

[AeroGavin Rossdale]

Haven't been keeping up with Rudy (Whatifalthist), but he has been posting videos with titles begging to be demonitized:

I watched the Christianity video and man there's some bizarre and flat out wrong claims, especially from someone calling himself a Christian.
>The Eucharist was originally powerful psychedelics and that's why religious ecstasy has died out
>Christianity just ripped off Persian Mythandris
>Jesus intentionally combined the masculine and feminine aspects of Greek and Persian religions to create the super religion, which seems borderline heretical
>Romans didn't believe in their gods
>Only Christianity allows science because science is about making mistakes and correcting, which was inspired by the concept of forgiveness
>No one believed in linear time until the Second Coming was taught and just sat around with no motivation
Just a weird mash up of fringe historical theories to demonstrate.. Hell, I don't even know what.

Edit: Oh, I forgot Jesus being a carpenter invented the middle class and lead to capitalism.

 

[Flaming Insignias]

I've always wondered how Atatürk would react upon seeing modern day Turkey and whatever the fuck Erdogan is doing.

Turkey had a tradition of military forces staging coups whenever a president starting becoming too Ottoman, and it certainly seemed to be a central component of preserving Kemalism. The failure of the coup against Erdogan means that Kemalism is functionally dead.

 

[NvII iS 8ulLt f0R 88C]

This is one of my favorite whackjob Youtube History videos and there's a part 2 which is very much worth watching.

I'm left listening to this Muslims cry about Kemalism and it makes me think "DAMN ATATURK WAS THE MAN!" I have to concede I haven't researched enough about Ataturk to really have an informed opinion but the man presented as trying to "DESTROY" Islam (by secularizing it) would be one of the greatest men who ever lived.

based atatürk
it is also fun watching muzzoids seethe about Atatürk, he didn't even mention Atatürk BTFOing the Allied powers is the only reason why modern nation of Turkey exists today

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_War_of_Independence

Turkey had a tradition of military forces staging coups whenever a president starting becoming too Ottoman, and it certainly seemed to be a central component of preserving Kemalism. The failure of the coup against Erdogan means that Kemalism is functionally dead.

many are overlooking the fact that the military was essentially controlled by an islamic cult (Fethullahists) after the Ergenekon ordeal. It was basically one school of islamism going after the other in a powergrab after they collaborated on extinguishing the secularists. Also the opposition (CHP) is also is incompetent/complacent/corrupt/infiltrated so they just let Erdog do whatever he wants anyways.

 

[HeyYou]

>Romans didn't believe in their gods

This one is particularly funny because this line of thinking is straight from Gibbon's The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and there it was used to portray Christians badly by saying that it was actually pagan Romans that were forward thinking and scientific.

 

[AeroGavin Rossdale]

This one is particularly funny because this line of thinking is straight from Gibbon's The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and there it was used to portray Christians badly by saying that it was actually pagan Romans that were forward thinking and scientific.

If I remember right Rudy's point was Christianity flourished only with the influx of warrior blood from the Nordic countries. I dunno. It's a mishmash of fringe theories from all over the place. Some of them I at least recognize, they're dumb, but I've seen them before. The Eucharist as LSD is a new one to me though.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

This video is pretty absurd, in it he uses cannibalism as an allegory to criticize capitalism as this man-thresher that runs on human blood, which is stupid but whatever. Less absurdly, he compares cannibalism to the factory farm industry in support of veganism. It warrants mentioning that he compares meat eating to being a serial killer and right winger. So basically, if you eat meat, not only do you have at least the potential to habitually kill people but also that propensity to atrocity is tied to the way you vote.

Where it goes completely insane is when he uses cannibalism as an allegory for homosexuality, but instead of the cannibalism allegory being used to condemn it, he uses it in support of gay sex.

It's so weird how cannibalism is useful as a framing device for monstrosity against the things he doesn't like until it can be angled to support the LGBT, somehow. Not to mention the comparisons he makes with the examples given are agonizingly tortured and come off as incredibly weak in context when paired with the clips he shows. This is Kyle Kallgren levels of reaching. For example, the protagonist hides among a bunch of dead bodies to avoid getting killed in a battle, blood from the people piled on top of him drains into his mouth and the blood gives him the energy he needs to pull himself out of the pile, this is somehow an allegory for a gay orgy. The rest goes into disturbingly rapey descriptions of one guy shoving his hand down another guy's pants & the other guy fleeing from the sexual assault because of his internalized heteronormative upbringing. This is set to a clip of a cannibal with blood on his mouth trying to get closer to his next victim and the other guy jumping off a cliff to avoid being murdered and his corpse eaten.

Like, nigga, what?

Does he really not realize the message it sends to compare corpse-eating to gay sex? I don't think you could hurt your case any harder if you said "Hitler was lowkey gay btw."

Also, isn't it funny how everything a leftist talks about always boils down to:

>Capitalism bad and/or Socialism/Communism/Marxism good
>Veganism good / meat is murder
>Gay sexual assault buttsex is good

This guy could twist any exchange or innocuous action involving a man into gay homo sex. He does the same thing with Interview with the Vampire. So you're telling me that an accurate representation of a gay relationship is a dysfunctional, violent, spiteful and obsessive grudge between two parasites constantly at odds?

Oh yeah, and to top it all off, he describes any sexually violent or unacceptable behavior as being distinctly heterosexual. After comparing gay sex to eating human flesh, which is good until it becomes about the heterosexual patriarchy. He even cites a quote "meat is a symbol of male dominance" followed by calling meat consumption a facet of toxic masculinity.

So women don't eat meat, only men?

These people do realize that there exist nutritional reasons to eat meat, right? Food allergies to vegetables like cauliflower exist, and meat contains unique proteins that people must have to be healthy.

Furthermore, why are they operating under the assumption that all behaviors between sexes or sexual preferences are mutually exclusive? Shoving your hand down another person's pants is only sexual assault when it's the opposite sex, men eating meat means women can't, ect. He then compares eating meat to Fascism.

Is this all supposed to be tongue and cheek satire or does he really believe such insanity?

"Rape, too, is an implemental violence in which the penis is the implement of violation. You are held down by a male body as the fork holds a piece of meat so that the knife may cut into it."

This can't be serious, it's too insane to be serious.