2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[Kane Lives]

It will take about 3 to 6 months minimum to bring the fields online and for that product to reach the pumps.

Not to mention there's no longterm financial incentives for the O&G companies to even try, given how successive administrations tried to fuck them over. What, you're going to appeal to their sense of patriotism? Lol sure, Exxon-Mobil the global international megacorp gonna laugh at you and just reap the high prices all the way to the bank.

 

[PhoBingas]

Interrogation of a Hamas fighter

Holy shit, 21 going on 41. Buddy looks like a rough 21

What are you talking about? What Neocons?

I wonder if the neocons are in the room with him right now?

It really is a testament to Arma III's realism that footage from the game gets so frequently mistaken for real combat footage.

You haven't played much Arma III I take it. Try driving with two buddies in 2 other vehicles about 20 meters apart in a single file line. I'm not sure if they've patched out your hitboxes jumping ahead of your model in online games

Good luck, stay safe, don't die and of course remember what you are fighting for:

The Lich Queen of New Jersey can hold her own. She'll just zip through gaza with noclip and godmode on.

We need to send in Asian Andy to really promote some kino content.

Send OnlyUseMeBlade too, the goo from his rotting leg could be used as a bio-weapon.

If they're really smart, make it an all-goes sin city. Get away with all the Shariah laws, have all the vices on full display. That will surely attract people from both the west seeking exotic company and the Middle East where looking at a woman's ankles gets you the noose.

I see what you're doing, Speedrunning another Sodom and Gomorrah with extra steps.

Why were they more scared of American people than Israelis are of rocket batteries?

A missile isn't gonna hold you down and shove a stapler up your ass sideways.

unironically i don't understand the obsession with uss liberty
like, friendly fire isn't a new concept. in the 2000s not a week went by without burgers (and occasionally brits) blasting their own troops in iraq due to misunderstandings and misidentification

I'm old enough to remember the jokes about the Canadians being the only green things in Afghanistan and the US still managed to shoot like four of us. A whole ass boat is a little different than a couple niggas in 80's forest green camo though.

A statement from Israeli intelligence stating it was Hamas.

yeah, but trusting an Israeli intelligence angency is like trusting the FBI to investigate itself for wrong-doing.

Take one IDF soldier who, by accident or ignorance, fired a missile that killed several Palestinian children.

Take one Hamas guy who entered a civilian home and shot one child to death.

I'll bite.
The nigga in the plane fired a missile either in negligence or malice that killed kids did it as part of his job. He could have even been reprimanded for it. Does the pilot nigga feel bad about what he did?
The Hamas nigga just decided to one day boot his neighbor's door in and stabbed his kid. He's got no oversight and could be acting just on his own, Really don't know if he's gonna snap one day and decide you've colonized his shit.
I'm gonna go for the pilot, because I know he's at least got a job so he won't be around all the time unless he's sitting on Jew VA disability.

 

[Just_Somebody]

So a theory I've heard is this.

Islamic Jihad launches one of it's larger rockets. Israel intercepts with Iron Dome. Iron Dome explodes by proximity, damaging the Islamic Jihad rocket, killing it's motor/engine, but not destroying the rocket itself. Debris from Iron Dome rocket causes the first, smaller explosion. Islamic Jihad rocket impacts soon after, thus bigger boom.

If @Rei is Shit. is correct, and there were two distinct explosions, it could literally be both of their fault. However, Hamas got cameras on the ground REALLY quickly (as if they have some sort of presence very close. Hmmmmm) and were tossing numbers even as the fires were raging about "muh dead 500". I don't really putting blame on Israel for shooting down a larger rocket early, rather than risking it crashing over Israel. Plus, good odds radar tracking had the larger rockets noticed and targeted. I'd still put the blame on Islamic Jihad firing rockets from a civilian area, flying over a civilian area, to target civilian areas.

I don't see the Israelis purposefully targeting the hospital. They did want the hospital vacated of civilians (because you know 100% Hamas will attack from it when the time comes), but bombing it because...."lol we warned you" doesn't seem to mesh well with their desire to try to not just murder Gazans wholesale with evac strategies and knockknocks.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

friendly reminder...Palestinians are literally inbred Jordanians with a multitude of health problems,. Both physical and mental. that's why they have blood lust.

Also Bosnians, Egyptians, Syrians and other brown people who went there after WW2 so they could keep killing Jews.

 

[King George III]

IDF release before and after images of the hospital.

 

[Baroque]

“Hamas DEFINITELY doesn’t have missiles that can do that!”

“What about the Chinese missiles that Israel has intercepted in the past that could do that?”

What’s the response?

 

[Givi]

So a theory I've heard is this.

Islamic Jihad launches one of it's larger rockets. Israel intercepts with Iron Dome. Iron Dome explodes by proximity, damaging the Islamic Jihad rocket, killing it's motor/engine, but not destroying the rocket itself. Debris from Iron Dome rocket causes the first, smaller explosion. Islamic Jihad rocket impacts soon after, thus bigger boom.

If @Rei is Shit. is correct, and there were two distinct explosions, it could literally be both of their fault. However, Hamas got cameras on the ground REALLY quickly (as if they have some sort of presence very close. Hmmmmm) and were tossing numbers even as the fires were raging about "muh dead 500". I don't really putting blame on Israel for shooting down a larger rocket early, rather than risking it crashing over Israel. Plus, good odds radar tracking had the larger rockets noticed and targeted. I'd still put the blame on Islamic Jihad firing rockets from a civilian area, flying over a civilian area, to target civilian areas.

I don't see the Israelis purposefully targeting the hospital. They did want the hospital vacated of civilians (because you know 100% Hamas will attack from it when the time comes), but bombing it because...."lol we warned you" doesn't seem to mesh well with their desire to try to not just murder Gazans wholesale with evac strategies and knockknocks.

This requires the following unlikely things to all happen:

1 - Hamas launched one of their big and rare rockets (which we don't know if they even still have)
2 - Hamas decided this rocket was going to be launched by its lonesome, even though they probably have much cheaper and more plentiful shit to sling at Israel haphazardly and it's their modus operandi to do so before using the big ones
3 - The rocket was intercepted
4 - The SAM exploded in a way that destroyed exclusively one thing on the rocket while leaving the warhead intact
5- The SAM debris then fall onto the hospital
6- The Hamas rocket then proceeded to fall into the same place, which is also the worst place possible for Gaza
7 - A rocket with no guidance system and a mediocre payload fell exactly where it needed to fall to cause basically max casualties

A bit too much to believe, I'll just take the simpler

1 - Intelligence fail or vindictive IDF
2 - Hospital gets bombed

 

[BigRizzle]

Call me a conspiracy theorist retard if you want, but I find it strange how Israel somehow didn't know about Hamas's invasion even though they've been planning this from a long time, but they somehow managed to intercept a phone call from IJ saying "Yes hello we are the Islamic Jihad group and we admit that we bombed the hospital and it was totally not the peaceful state of Israel" and have a million different kinds of evidence not even a day after it happened.

 

[Total Annihilation]

Travel advisory for Lebanon now at level 4.

Wait, is Lebanon gonna be the next Iraq/Afghanistan/eternalwar™?

 

[gay]

Another angle. (UNCONFIRMED)

that's from 2022

Hamas has access to a range of missiles.

even if Hamas/IS has high ordnance bombs, then it still doesn't explain why it sounds like a missile with a JDAM-kit, the missile we see in the Al Jazeera video breaks into at least two pieces and definitely isn't going to sound like a finned missile hitting a target at max velocity, it sounds more like it was launched by an aircraft.

 

[AltisticRight]

That graph was created by @MMS-China (or at least originally posted by him) in a reply to me in the “who do you support in the Russia/Israeli war” thread.

I've seen it a couple times already posted by drooling chinky anime avatars on Weibo so I doubt it originated from him.

“Hamas DEFINITELY doesn’t have missiles that can do that!”

“What about the Chinese missiles that Israel has intercepted in the past that could do that?”

What’s the response?

Hamas has some Chinese designed Syrian made missiles and some from Iran. They definitely have weaponry that can produce such carnage.
For the two explosions, one could just say it hit a weapons depot Hamas hid there, or it hit the highly explosive and flammable hospital-use gases. I don't think it would produce such a massive explosion, but I'm not confident enough to rule it out.
It could also be a failed interception. One would say the chances are low but we have a fireworks sample size of over 5000, it's bound to happen. It just sucks because it happened at a hospital trying to help civilians.

Neither side will look good. Zionists won't be convinced that Israel was at fault and Palestine supports won't be convinced that Hamas was a little too uppity with their fireworks.

 

[BrainDoko]

Shireen Abu Akleh is also a good recent example (2022).

shot dead by the IDF, who blamed it on Palestinians, then later admitted she might've been accidentally hit by them, and then after some investigation it was found it she was an intentional IDF target and IDF went "lmao and?"

 

[Solid Hyrax]

IDF release before and after images of the hospital.
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Guys, what if... All the bodies that they were shown dead from the missile hit on the Hospitals were already dead from previous bombings that were gathered in a morgue and they did a photo-op to play up the mishap?

 

[William Tyndale]

You know they say that the healthcare system in the US will bankrupt you, but now we know the healthcare system in Gaza will vaporize you! Checkmate libs!

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Completely agree. The irony, and what I have trouble wrapping my head around, is how they don't realize the West is what has given them the very privilege to dismantle it. I can understand the puppeteers who are designing this, but the NPCs who follow rank and file never ceases to confuse me. It's like the Queers for Palestine, no matter how deeply your hatred of jews or Israel runs, how do you stand with a group that overwhelmingly wants you stoned to death publicly in the streets? Do they not realize that, if the group they support 'wins', they will be next in line for the guillotine?

This has been explained before but bears repeating - everything you are seeing has a singular motivating factor in common: hatred of Christianity. You do not have to be a Christian or even religious to see this clearly. It's what motivates the Talmudists; it's what motivates the Communists/Socialists; it's what motivates the LGBPedos.
Christianity is what made the West great and it cannot stand without that foundation, which is why those people are so desperate to destroy every vestige of it.

 

[borsabil]

1 - Hamas launched one of their big and rare rockets (which we don't know if they even still have)
2 - Hamas decided this rocket was going to be launched by its lonesome, even though they probably have much cheaper and more plentiful shit to sling at Israel haphazardly and it's their modus operandi to do so before using the big ones
3 - The rocket was intercepted
4 - The SAM exploded in a way that destroyed exclusively one thing on the rocket while leaving the warhead intact
5- The SAM debris then fall onto the hospital
6- The Hamas rocket then proceeded to fall into the same place, which is also the worst place possible for Gaza
7 - A rocket with no guidance system and a mediocre payload fell exactly where it needed to fall to cause basically max casualties

Add in that the unguided rocket would have to score a direct hit on an ammo dump or fuel store inside the hospital to get even close to causing the massive damage that resulted, and even ignoring the absence of secondary explosions, it still doesn't account for totally leveling such a big building.

I get people need to cope, no one wants to be the bad guy but seriously? Israel has given no fucks about civilians since launching their bombing campaign, they've levelled entire residential neighborhoods knowing that Hamas has all their important shit buried underground. I read a stat that Israel has killed more civilians, particularly children, in a week than the Russians have managed over 20 months in Ukraine. The Jews are big believers in collective punishment, a bit like the SS during WW2. So Occam's razor the Jews did it.

 

[King George III]

Guys, what if... All the bodies that they were shown dead from the missile hit on the Hospitals were already dead from previous bombings that were gathered in a morgue and they did a photo-op to play up the mishap?

The lack of hospital damage photos, the massive flames, the lack of charred bodies......they hit a fucking parking lot.

 

[im5!XxhO]

The lack of hospital damage photos, the massive flames, the lack of charred bodies......they hit a fucking parking lot.

Unless the Palestinians had a spontaneous protest in a hospital parking lot, the 500 casualties number is also pure bullshit no matter what actually hit the hospital parking lot.

Maybe a Hamas rocket failed and destroyed some Hamas leader's luxury car and now there is hell to pay.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

Except, uh, the Israelis have fought off multiple Middle Eastern powers at once, multiple times.

They defeated national armies, not irregular infantry engaged in guerilla warfare. This scenario has been run time and time again, rather recently as well, national armies lose to decentralized irregular armies because national armies need to concentrate force into a tight ball to make it effective, when Israel fought these prior wars they were fighting against inept, dysfunctional opponents that fought just like they do, tanks, planes, and infantry organized with uniforms and into units. When the national army was rendered incapable, or unwilling of completing missions tasked to it the national governments negotiated an end to the conflict, there is no negotiating with an kaleidoscope of militias and jihadist factions, you just end up quagmired trying to swat one group after another, no matter how much you bomb and level cities they just crawl out like fucking ants and fight you amongst the rubble.

So lets say a general war breaks out with all of the usual suspects, Lebanon, Syria, Iran and we'll say the Shiites will drag Iraq in as well. How the fuck does the tiny Israeli army hold the ground they capture? Even the Syrian national army cannot fully control their national borders, you expect some hostile force, be it American or Israeli will be able to hold tens of thousands of square miles of seething hostile territory? The American military quickly lost control of Iraq and had to flee in humiliation back in 2009 after handing regions over to borderline jihadist "awakening councils." Trying to tard wrangle 3-4 other nations at once is just outright impossible. The leadership of the US needs to be backing away from this shit storm, not giving out blank checks that continuously enrage THE ENTIRE FUCKING REGION BEYOND THE USUAL SUSPECTS. This is midwit tier politicians at work, on the same level as the Kaiser giving a blank check to Austria-Hungary over Serbia leading into WW1.

A smart politician would be yanking the leash on Israel right fucking now and getting some sort of exit ramp going, because the current path is just going to lead to a lot of lone wolf attacks in the US and EU just like the ISIS period in 2015, and potentially a large regional coalition aligning itself against Israel, and the US, in direct conflict via proxy jihadist groups, or at the very least some sort heavy handed economic sanctions on Israel, the EU and US. Egypt closing Suez, Turkey, the Bosporus, or an OPEC embargo would utterly destroy NATO military power as the economy of each would shrivel to nothing in short order. Hell closing ports, rail lines or air space to the EU would be equally damaging as there would be zero way for Chinese goods to make it to the EU without insane travel times around the Cape or some meme path like through Panama to the EU.

I think people misunderstand whom holds the yoke here, the Muslim countries have the high hand and we're just watching to see what the response is from nations like Saudi Arabia, UAE and other strategically important places like Egypt with Suez. None seem happy about this war flaring up a lot of protests and riots.

 

[LaxerBRO]

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