2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[King George III]

The carpark

ED: More from the Carpark Holocaust

 

[quackrock]

What's up with the one single line going to the hospital.

It actually terminates/originates at the gray dot just below and to the left of the hospital. The gray color they chose is hard to see against the urban satellite image. I'd guess it's supposed to be a secondary rocket firing site, but who knows, they didn't label it.

FWIW, the Predator Hawk ground-to-ground missile @mindlessobserver mentioned has a payload of 140 kg, or 308 pounds. That's less than a 500 pound Mk 82 JDAM, and about equal to the 150 kg payload of Hamas's larger Khaibar-1/M-302/R160 rockets. Either might have caused the "larger than a typical Hamas rocket, smaller than a Mk 82" explosion and debris pattern we saw.

I'm sure people more well-informed and much more highly motivated than us will sort this out soon. Failed rocket launch seems much more credible now

 

[Racist Trash]

The carpark
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500 horsepower gone just like that...

 

[Total Annihilation]

I was thinking that if shit pops off with Iran, one could just start posting stuff not only from ARMA, but DCS as well.
Seems that this channel already tried doing just that.

 

[gay]

The carpark

Spoiler: warning: lots of dead people, notably children.

probably the nastiest video i've seen from this entire conflict so far.

 

[diroama]

To kill 500 people, you'd need a considerably more powerful projectile

And who is saying 500 people were killed?

 

[gay]

And who is saying 500 people were killed?

the Hamas ministry.

keep in mind they like to inflate their casualty numbers, i've seen some people say the number has actually been raised towards a 1000 in the last few hours.

 

[diroama]

I think the one constant theme I've seen from people who don't have a dog in the fight has been the sheer improbability of it being a Hamas rocket. The payload isn't large enough to do that much damage

You're one of several people to reference the damage from the explosion - have you actually seen what damage was caused?



Edit: caught up with thread. Is it just that fucking car park?

 

[Kiwiballs]

And who is saying 500 people were killed?

Ppl were prob taking shelter in the car park and around the hospital as a safe zone.

 

[gay]

IDF released the intercepted call between Hamas operatives where they acknowledge it was a misfire.

again this is coming from the IDF so do with that what you will.

 

[Rei is Shit.]

If the Islamic world cut production, then it'll hurt oil-dependent China far more than oil exporting America. Russia's easy bypass of sanctions shows how these things can't be targeted on a global market.

People are talking about an oil embargo, like what the arab states did in 1973, not cutting production or trying to stop someone else from selling oil.

 

[Just_Somebody]

Ppl were prob taking shelter in the car park and around the hospital as a safe zone.

Another theory.

A bunch of civilians heard that Islamic Jihad/Hamas were about to fire some of their big boy rockets, and went into open areas, like the parking lot, to get a good view of the rockets flying off.

One of them falls way short/misfires, landing on top of them. Explosion/fire relatively minor, but concussive force of the explosion killed more.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

. When you get into 100% inflation per year you're looking at national economic collapse since your currency is effectively untrustworthy so everyone starts reverting to stuff like bartering or external currency.

It was almost there; when you ask someone who saw it first hand they say people spent money as fast as they could because everything went up by the day and barter was something they all did, and quietly snuck out whatever product the factory they worked at made-if they were working-as the foreman looked the other way, because he was doing it too. People based friendships on what a person could do/procure from work to trade whatever they could do/take from their job.

Of all of Jimmy Carter's problems (and there were many), this was the biggest and the primary reason he lost to Reagan.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

There are a few issues with the rocket/bomb/hospital that don't seem to be getting a lot of coverage.

Firstly there were two distinct explosions in quick succession;

I was pointing this out earlier. The first explosion seems out of place and tiny for a direct attack and the timing of it all is way too close to believe it's unrelated to the second one, let alone to the events going on in the air directly above seconds before. The smoke does raise a few questions. Could it be stuff still burning/smoldering from earlier attacks (coming or going out), smoke from something Hamas was doing or did? (launch sites or something?)

IDF release before and after images of the hospital.
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Yeah, this is what I was talking about earlier too. I've seen not a single thing thus far showing major structural damage. This seems to have "hit" a large open area. Which would make sense with the death count since a lot of people were likely within the hospital grounds, not the buildings themselves. (if you even trust the numbers thrown out thus far)

Let's make peace and blame the frogs for everything.

Ah yes, the "whales and dolphins" strategy. Excellent idea.

 

[Racist Trash]

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IDF released the intercepted call between Hamas operatives where they acknowledge it was a misfire.

again this is coming from the IDF so do with that what you will.

Took them long enough they were talking about releasing this shit hours ago but it was spoiled by the car park being revealed.

 

[01169]

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IDF released the intercepted call between Hamas operatives where they acknowledge it was a misfire.

again this is coming from the IDF so do with that what you will.

They say Al-Ma'amadani Hospital. In that car park video it says Ahli Arab Hospital.

So are these different places? I think I've read a third name too.

I still think that Israel didn't bomb a hospital but maybe the rocket incident and the carpark are two different occurences?

 

[buying gf]

They say Al-Ma'amadani Hospital. In that car park video it says Ahli Arab Hospital.

So are these different places? I think I've read a third name too.

I still think that Israel didn't bomb a hospital but maybe the rocket incident and the carpark are two different occurences?

"Oh sorry, that was the other hospital we bombed, my bad"

 

[SIMIΔN]

People are talking about an oil embargo, like what the arab states did in 1973, not cutting production or trying to stop someone else from selling oil.

The 1973 crisis WAS a cut in production.

 

[Fcret]

On one level, I feel bad that civilians are caught in the crossfire.

On another, those same civilians have been tacitly letting Hamas hide among them for like decades at this point and smugly thinking that nothing bad would happen to them.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

 

[Racist Trash]

They say Al-Ma'amadani Hospital. In that car park video it says Ahli Arab Hospital.

So are these different places? I think I've read a third name too.

I still think that Israel didn't bomb a hospital but maybe the rocket incident and the carpark are two different occurences?

From a quick search that was the old name of the Ahli hospital.