2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[Ballistics]

Regardless of who is in congress or who is President, the result in the Middle East will not be determined by the USA. If we provide arms or don't will not alter what has been unleashed by Hamas and the possible scenario of Iran and Lebanon becoming involved.

Some times war is entirely unavoidable; the only question is will this escalate into a true Middle East War that ends up involving Europe and the USA, I give it 60% probability. Much depends on the will of Lebanon and Iran and if they consider this an opportune time to jump in. I'm not sure there is enough upside for Iran in this.

Given the economic situation globally, turning to War to remove stress of populations undergoing increased financial stress - particularly in China as their economy is looking incredibly shaky - is a wise move historically and unites divided peoples.

I'd imagine China is shoring up and licking it lips considering if War breaks out in the Middle East, what their chances will be of taking Taiwan with the USA only able to commit half their forces to the West Pacific. It would be a wonderful distraction from their soaring unemployment and crashing property markets.

Agreed that ultimately, the USA intervening or not is irrelevant. It's not like Hamas will be able to keep us very busy or anything. I think like people have mentioned earlier is that Iran isn't stupid. They won't strike unless they have a shot at actually winning and Gaza is likely not the hill they want to die on. One of their main allies, Russia, is still caught up in a gay war becoming China's oil bitch so they're no help. I wouldn't even take their military advice at this point. However, the population is so riled up though that they wouldn't think twice about it. It'd be hard to get so much support again. Other random countries might join in and then the entire Middle East is set ablaze. Big roll of the dice but once in a lifetime opportunity.

China is a fucking wildcard. We know they're going to do whatever they view as in their best interest but their thought process is a mystery.

 

[trash cat]

Billionaire former Victoria's Secret CEO pulls funding from Harvard, accusing the school of 'dismal failure' to take a stand for Israel

https://www.yahoo.com/news/billionaire-founder-victorias-secret-pulls-205658262.html

Hahahahaha you must be joking, right??

The "billionaire Victoria Secret founder" is LES WEXNER , the Jewish spook who was largest funder of Jeffrey Epstein's pedo blackmail ring and human trafficking network.

In addition to being best buddies for 20+ years with Jeffrey Epstein, LES WEXNER was also close with Ghislaine Maxwell and her Mossad father Robert Maxwell. All these pedo criminals were deeply connected with Mossad and Israeli organized crime. Lol.

One of Epstein's victims, Maria Farmer, called Les Wexner the "head of the snake" when it comes to Epstein's sex trafficking network.

 

[Diana Moon Glampers]

I'm not concerned. The ultra Orthodox are outbreeding the secularists and even with the 1 in 7 drop out rate they're still winning. A lot of these secularists are also masorti, they claim to be not religious but still keep Jewish traditions and acknowledge Orthodox Judaism as the only legitimate version of Judaism. Israel was far more secular in the early life of the country and has only been desecularizing ever since.

Yeah, when Israeli Jews are secular you're likely to see they still won't eat pork or shellfish, but want to use electronics on Saturday. They still keep a huge amount of Jewish law, they just think they're not Orthodox enough to count as religious.

 

[Uncle Buck]

I'm not concerned. The ultra Orthodox are outbreeding the secularists...

These would be the same ultra-orthodox that don't serve in the IDF, yes/no?

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

These would be the same ultra-orthodox that don't serve in the IDF, yes/no?

They don't serve right now but attitudes are changing, esp after this attack. 8k haredim signed up to the IDF recently which is huge.

 

[EyeGuy]

Israeli suicide drone in Tulkarm:

 

[01169]

Big roll of the dice but once in a lifetime opportunity.

Once in a lifetime opportunity to get glassed. Are we forgetting that Israel has nuclear weapons?

Everyone was saying that USA won't do shit to Russia because of their arsenal and vice versa. But if the muzzies sperg out and really try to push the Jew into the sea and/or oven then anything goes.

 

[ChefKiss]

It's really eyeopening re-reading some of this thread again from the beginning. The question of "what the fuck is Hamas trying to gain with a rape and murder spree? Surely they're going to get annihilated" was answered with Israel getting its Jew balls cut off for even thinking of doing more than a few knock bombings. Israel can't even attempt to get the hostages back or threaten to cut off water and electricity without humantarian organisations sperging about the Palestinian children.

Hamas has managed to not only get away with an eyewateringly brutal terrorist attack caught in full HD, as well as unite the Arab world into hotheaded prostests across the WORLD and somehow Israel has ended up the bad guy in all of this.

More than anything it's amazing how quickly all the muslims and progressives celebrating the rape and murder in the streets was memory holed. They were openly cheering it on every social media site and now it's all "Oh sure hamas are bad but muh poor civilians dont support violence!"
Has to be up there with "Go to chinatown, socialize, have a party there!" right before covid for deepest memory holing

 

[Vott]

Reports of more rocket attacks in Northern Israel source


Reports Hezbollah struck the Al-Manara military site in northern Israel

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

The anti Zionist Satmar movement has declared a fast day on Monday and added extra verses to their prayers on behalf of the Jewish people in Israel. They also strongly denounced the pro Palestinian Neturei Karta Jews.

They've never done anything like this before, insanely strong unity among Jews rn.

 

[Vott]

Rocket impact in Bedouin source

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[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Maybe the plumbers in here can explain this to me, but why not build water pumps from the Atlantic Ocean and connect them into discovered tunnel entrances? It'll either flood the tunnel network with unusable salt water or get into enough of the ground to turn it into sinkholes that'll collapse the buildings on top of it.

 

[Scrumption]

French media cited a European source saying there are approximately 10-50 deaths from the errant rocket blast in the hospital parking lot, not the 471 claimed by Hamas.

The anti Zionist Satmar movement has declared a fast day on Monday and added extra verses to their prayers on behalf of the Jewish people in Israel. They also strongly denounced the pro Palestinian Neturei Karta Jews.

They've never done anything like this before, insanely strong unity among Jews rn.

The terror attack made the front page of an ultra Orthodox print newspaper in high circulation and the article in the paper was extremely sympathetic, but at the same time they aren’t putting up missing posters or holding rallies, though I don’t know about groups that are currently living in Israel.

Rocket impact in Bedouin source
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The rocket hit the Bedouin town of Shaqib al-Salam, just southeast of Beersheba.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

Maybe the plumbers in here can explain this to me, but why not build water pumps from the Atlantic Ocean and connect them into discovered tunnel entrances? It'll either flood the tunnel network with unusable salt water or get into enough of the ground to turn it into sinkholes that'll collapse the buildings on top of it.

I think you mean Mediterranean but that's what I've been thinking. Hell you could probably dig trenches from the beach inland and really start pumping. Not like the area is fertile anyway.

One upside/downside would be the sinkholes though. If they were to pump the ground of Gaza full of sea water that *would* be something remember for a thousand years.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

The terror attack made the front page of an ultra Orthodox print newspaper in high circulation and the article in the paper was extremely sympathetic, but at the same time they aren’t putting up missing posters or holding rallies, though I don’t know about groups that are currently living in Israel.

Haredim are not interested in publicizing what they are doing and view rallies as useless because they cannot affect what is going on. Instead they are focusing on immediate aid such as donating supplies to reservist soldiers and donating money to Israeli causes like Magen David Adom, the Israeli red cross. I know of a case where Israeli American reservists were stuck in JFK because they couldn't afford tickets back and a Haredi man showed up with a credit card that had a half million dollar credit limit to pay for 250 tickets to Israel.

Here is the latest general request list from front line soldiers:

-Black Duct Tape (Gorilla Brand Preferred)
- ParaCord
- General First Aid Kit
- Foot Care Items
- IFAK
- CamelBack Hydration Pack
- Electrolyte Packs
- MultiTool
- AR15/M4 Armors MultiTool and cleaning Kit
- Protein Bars

There's also prayers for the hostages and for the people murdered in the attack.

 

[Vott]

So the lights on this restaurant in France malfunctioned and lit up as Hamas Tacos without the C, Now it's threatened with closure. source

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Maybe the plumbers in here can explain this to me, but why not build water pumps from the Atlantic Ocean and connect them into discovered tunnel entrances? It'll either flood the tunnel network with unusable salt water or get into enough of the ground to turn it into sinkholes that'll collapse the buildings on top of it.

Egypt has done this, it's a war crime I think and the tunnels Israel is concerned about arent close enough to the sea to be flooded.

 

[im5!XxhO]

I have a question to all the qualified (civil) engineers here. I have seen a lot of large building collapse after just taking one bomb to the foundation. Is that normal or because they built like shit in Gaza?

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Egypt has done this, it's a war crime I think and the tunnels Israel is concerned about arent close enough to the sea to be flooded.

It's only a war crime if you lose. Also, they don't know just how intricate the tunnel system is, so building a pipeline or figuring out how to connect their sewer system to the tunnel network is a better choice than to send any men into those tunnels to root them out.

 

[Echo_Ender]

So the lights on this restaurant in France malfunctioned and lit up as Hamas Tacos without the C, Now it's threatened with closure. source
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That is both unlucky and hilarious. And a reminder for lazy owners to fix their damn signs.