2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

[Breadbassket]

US President Joe Biden: "Just as in World War 2, today, patriotic American workers are building the arsenal of Democracy."

 

[Jump]

Why does Israel nuke Europe?
Look I'm saying the conflict is solvable through a military victory where Israel annexes the territory and makes second class citizens out of Arabs.

What the path to that victory looks like is not my job to figure out. But if the world chilled the fuck out and let a war play out as a war should without ending it in the middle and freezing the conflict only for it to start again every 10 years then maybe we can have some fucking peace in this world.

Every conflict that has had an ending gets ended with a population exchange or actual annexation. Conflicts "managed" by the UN last forever until they get solved by option 1. This conflict has been going on for 70 years, its enough suffering, especially for the Gazan people but also the people of Israel and the West Bank.

If the world walked away and let the war play out then they wont like the outcome.
Letting it play out means Israel gets wiped off the map. They are a spec in the middle of the Islamic world. A spec that needs constant infusion of money and weapons from their Greatest Goy to keep their little bunker secured.

Israel can go Total Gaza Death and it still wont end. They are still completely surrounded by people who want them dead. The endless cycle of violence will continue to be endless.

People keep calling this part of the world things like the Holy Land. I think they are wrong. Its actually cursed by God, not blessed. Nothing but endless pain, suffering and death has been happening there for 2000 years.

 

[Vaclav]

OT but whats wrong with Tavors?

I can't find a source on this now but I heard that it's possible for them to jam in such a way that you have to break the rifle's plastic casing in order to clear it. I've noticed that bullpups are most popular with armed forces that don't do much actual fighting like in Europe. From an engineering standard getting the same barrel length in a shorter overall rifle seems like a big win but practically the super-mushy trigger and extremely unbalanced weight is awful.

 

[George Lucas]

What do the Saudis think about this?

 

[make_it_so]

US President Joe Biden: "Just as in World War 2, today, patriotic American workers are building the arsenal of Democracy."

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I know he's just reading what's on the prompter, but have the motherfuckers responsible for writing it seriously not looked at how fucked our supply chains are, where we have a fucking two year wait time for replenishing our stocks of even basic shit like 155mm shells?

If our current "Arsenal of Democracy" was what we had in WWII, Continental Europe would be either all speaking German or all Communist, and Hawaii would be a Japanese territory.

 

[Merry]

US President Joe Biden: "Just as in World War 2, today, patriotic American workers are building the arsenal of Democracy."

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Great opinion Joe; except for yknow, the economy on life-support, shrinking industrial base, and poor worker's rights even when compared to the immediate post-recovery from the Great Depression

I know he's just reading what's on the prompter, but have the motherfuckers responsible for writing it seriously not looked at how fucked our supply chains are, where we have a fucking two year wait time for replenishing our stocks of even basic shit like 155mm shells?

If our current "Arsenal of Democracy" was what we had in WWII, Continental Europe would be either all speaking German or all Communist, and Hawaii would be a Japanese territory.

The entire speech felt schizophrenic. Not surprising, given America and NATO is now being guided in so many different directions by so many conflicting interests that I don't think the greatest writers of all time could make an effective speech to appease them all. What we heard was a clear attempt to please everyone, written by idiots desperately clinging to and using a dead past as inspiration, delivered by a stuttering and slobbering, confused old man.

Really, it's a perfect embodiment of modern America in the vein of a Greek tragedy.

many edits lol

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

US President Joe Biden: "Just as in World War 2, today, patriotic American workers are building the arsenal of Democracy."

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This isn't real. That's AI generated I would bet my life. My uncanny valley alarm is blaring.

 

[DumbDude43]

What do the Saudis think about this?

the royal family:
>all this war shit is terrible for business
>god damn why did these hamas niggers have to sperg out like that
>this might turn into arab spring 2.0 oh god please no

the people at large:
>GAS THE JEWS
>HITLER WAS RIGHT
>FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA

 

[Vaclav]

This isn't real. That's AI generated I would bet my life. My uncanny valley alarm is blaring.

His hair looks a little too full to me. Digitally enhanced?

What do the Saudis think about this?

Israel has spent the recent years buying off almost all the Arab leaders. However, Gaza is now making their people freak out in the middle of already bad economic times. They fear another Arab Spring and their best strategy for preventing it is to direct popular rage toward Israel so it isn't vented on them.

 

[Odd Opossum]

My uncanny valley alarm is blaring.

That's just what old people look like.

 

[Tanner Glass]

I know he's just reading what's on the prompter, but have the motherfuckers responsible for writing it seriously not looked at how fucked our supply chains are, where we have a fucking two year wait time for replenishing our stocks of even basic shit like 155mm shells?

If our current "Arsenal of Democracy" was what we had in WWII, Continental Europe would be either all speaking German or all Communist, and Hawaii would be a Japanese territory.

Don't forget the levels of patriotism involved in WW2 compared to the absolute nothing we've got for WW3.

"Please fight, kill, and die for Israel as they have another border dispute in the Middle East."

 

[Vining]

The Israeli army is a 5th rate conscript force with 2nd rate weapons (1st rate now that they're realizing they need actual guns instead of tavors) that routinely gets in spats with 6th rate conscript forces with 6th rate weapons. (one of the under analyzed things about hezbollah is that volunteer armies tend to perform much better than conscript ones on average, this may be a contributing factor their outsized success, IDK, no ones done the analysis. Conscript forces suck generally, see ukraine and russia for multiple examples)

I'm not impressed they managed to eke out a victory with WW2 surplus on retards considering everything 3 years prior.

The IDF should just stick with CAR-15s because fixed carry handle iron sights are based and aesthetically pleasing.

 

[Major von der Westfront]

Using the BLM method of making radical activism seem chic for children and brainwashing them at the same time, militant Palestinian nationalism is now playing out at American high schools. Video recorded at Balboa High School in San Francisco.

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These fucking niggers. If i am being honest. ANY mother fucker who wants a free palestine should go to palestine and actually do something. (It'll do us some good eugenics. if you catch my drift.)

 

[Fatniggo1488]

I think it'll be far closer to 5000 than 50,000
This youtuber is strongly anti-NATO, and predicts it'll end before 3000 IDF die.

Gaza is tiny and shares a boarder with Egypt. Just 40km long.

This guy's predictions have come true a lot, but I'm seeing some things which make it seem like the Arabs are shit at war rule might be overpowering traditional indicators. For instance, I had assumed that Israel would suffer some air loses based on some of the equipment Hamas has, but that hasn't really happened.

 

[Major von der Westfront]

This guy's predictions have come true a lot, but I'm seeing some things which make it seem like the Arabs are shit at war rule might be overpowering traditional indicators. For instance, I had assumed that Israel would suffer some air loses based on some of the equipment Hamas has, but that hasn't really happened.

That dude is a sensationalist. His "predictions" are literally just the obvious that he paints as "OMG GUYS THE NAFOIDS LOST! MUSICIANS IN NOW!" (See his whole Bakhmut thing where everyone already knew it would fall beside Nafo retards)

 

[he who has thus come/gone]

Also unremarked upon are the general moral implications of Jews endorsing collective punishment as a good idea, which totally doesn't undermine the story of the holocaust drilled into me in primary school.

By this logic, every single war in history that wasn't resolved solely and conclusively on a removed battlefield is "collective punishment." Obfuscating the inherently horrific nature of war by conflating it with the connotations in the shifty, ambiguous, and undefinable phrase of "collective punishment" is, at best, a failure to exercise nuanced rationality, or, at worst, engagement in propaganda.

Collective punishment is when one kid talks back to the teacher so the teacher makes everyone eat lunch silently. The horror of war is when an artillery bombardment or cutting of electricity to an urban area occupied by combatants who want to kill you harms both non-combatants and combatants. Regardless of what "side" you're on, if you don't see the difference then you're not a serious discussant.

 

[pikachudidnothingwrong]

The post WWII international order is dead IMO.

Russia to begin arming Iran.

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/L6p0x

With what?

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Like Tara strong. More western Jews realizing voting and promoting anti-white agendas like BLM backfired on them. BLM sees Israelis are white. They support killing of white Jews.

I mean Matt isn't wrong here.

Damn you consequence culture! (seriously though.. these people are our future lawyers and this is the future of our legal world)

Now they get it!

So, Josh Paul just resigned a few hours ago from the State Department Office of Congressional and Public Affairs over support for Israel. TLTR source
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These are the type of people they hired/appointed! Not the time to be surprised!

Awesome he's gone though.

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Wonder if we'll actually see any major resignations.

See above! ^

We can only hope and dream.

Gotta love the self entitlement and buzz-crap though. "not listening to them & their communities etc" Were they their to serve the American people or their own self "identity" interests? This is actually a serious question! They need to be called out on this.

Billionaire former Victoria's Secret CEO pulls funding from Harvard, accusing the school of 'dismal failure' to take a stand for Israel


https://www.yahoo.com/news/billionaire-founder-victorias-secret-pulls-205658262.html

Good good.. It would be just lovely if this somehow kicked off the reckoning this country and it's elites so desporately need to have over how battshit off the rails our higher education system has truly gone. That picking people to teach/lead based on how extreme.. i'm sorry, "true to their experiences" they are, is a bad and dangerous idea.

I hope Bongland is ready for some more cultural enrichment!
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https://www.indiatoday.in/world/sto...ss-treat-them-in-hospitals-2450566-2023-10-18

Virtue signaling is working wonders this year it seems. This is what you get when you use it to pick your leaders.

dude what? That's an insane staff to student ratio. My uni had around 7 students per 1 staff. No wonder everyone going there becomes retarded. It's basically a daycare.

This is the current norm in western higher edu. Administrators for literally everything and more. For every identity, sexuality, gender, race, victim class and grievance. To validate it especially. A lot of them are literal activists and advocates for their pet causes/jobs. Only a small number of those staff are part of education or actually running the school. It's one of the reasons why the cost is exploded. They are also a big part of the problem with extremism and battshit insanity on campuses as well.

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Dropping like flies at this point. Love to see it!

 

[quackrock]

Collective punishment is

when you deprive 2 million people of water, power, and necessary medical supplies due the actions of a few

 

[Cannibal Fuckface]

Total Gaza Death means arab tard zerg rush and the invocation of the samson option, which would likely be pointed at places of "historic jewish oppression" moreso than at arab nations proper. Best I can tell.

Bro what
In your hypothetical Israel is getting gangbanged by most of the Arab nations so they decide to nuke Germany??? This would ensure the complete and utter destruction of the state of Israel and reignite hatred for Jews across the rest of the world.

If Isreal actually ends up hitting the big red button nukes are hitting military assets of the countries invading them. If the kikes are feeling especially spitefully, the cities of Mecca and Medina get glassed as well.

 

[Breadbassket]

French police have made arrests of pro-Palestinian protesters in Paris.