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See, I pose my question because I've stumbled across tirades like these that are as recent as this year, and after vaguely remembering some of the other straight up rants I've seen people go on in defense of Edelgard, it's only now starting to dawn on me how potentially unhinged Edelgard simps are.

I could post more but I think these do well enough to make my case for me. Considering I've seen long form analysis take place in previous posts ITT, I'm curious to hear what some other people's thoughts are on all this sperging, provided they care to skim through it all.
There's really not much to be said beyond "Edelgard let's the anti-theists on reddit jerk themselves off". These are fundamentally uncomplicated people. The fact that someone completes the genocide of a race of people comes secondary to [no more religion = good].
 
I'm curious to hear what some other people's thoughts are on all this sperging, provided they care to skim through it all.
The final scene in Azure Moon is someone overanalyzing the shit that Edelgard is allegedly dealing with and is conveniently ignoring the fact that an sizeable portion of the Imperial Army has been killed off, the enemy is literally invading the White House, and the war has been lost in the conventional sense.

Some more Edelgard sperging.
The two below these are somewhat accurate, but the game never really shines an light on what would happen if any of the Eagles decides to opt out of her jihad (aside from Hubert doing Hubert things).

But the comparison is kind of unfair because the main show is mainly an jock who's turning an guy who's isolating himself from the world, and what friends that he has left, and (initially) his responsibilities after being thrown under the bus by half of his own subjects. But it's kind of hard to blame Dimitri for some of the more violent stuff that he di because he has lost everything twice and he's trying to deal with his own psych issues in his own self-destructive ways.

And then you have someone who's actively trying to get shit done without considering too much what others think about her. Nearly everything Edelgard says is kind of uncanny in the sense that she's trying to use people for her own goals and nobody never really held the Flame Emperor bit against her when she was indirectly trying to kill them.

First image is actually pretty fair. Second one is kind of retarded because there really isn't an lot of character development to her outside of "Oh, you've survived! Alright, Now ehat we're all together, we need to invade the Alliance to stop them from interfering. Then we'll invade the Kingdom cuz that's were the church fled to. By the way, we need to kill the court mage, ASAP. Trust me. Oh, shit, we've been nuked. Yes, it's sad, but we must move forwards! <Mocks Dimitri> Rhea-sama! How could you set this city on fire! <Bonks the giant dragon on head> <Dragon dies> <Cut to CG still implying that Team Slither is alive and the devs are lazy.>"
 
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"Oh, you've survived! Alright, Now ehat we're all together, we need to invade the Alliance to stop them from interfering. Then we'll invade the Kingdom cuz that's were the church fled to. By the way, we need to kill the court mage, ASAP. Trust me. Oh, shit, we've been nuked. Yes, it's sad, but we must move forwards! <Mocks Dimitri> Rhea-sama! How could you set this city on fire! <Bonks the giant dragon on head> <Dragon dies> <Cut to CG still implying that Team Slither is alive and the devs are lazy.>"
The post-timeskip routes show why the Fire Emblem team should stop trying to be cute and doing multiple routes. It doesn't tend to work out for them - hell, the closest we have to it somewhat working is Gaiden/Valentia, and that's doing it's own fuckery with Alm/Celica.

It's telling that even with how Mid to Outright Shit the Timeskip Arcs are in Three Houses that they're still more coherent than 99% of FE Fates. Shit on Engage as a I do for it's story being cringe-inducing, at least you only had to actually play that game through once to see the whole story...
 
that's doing it's own fuckery with Alm/Celica.
Yeah, that one could be written off as an quirk of it being written very early in the series and the writing team was kind of inexperienced.
The post-timeskip routes show why the Fire Emblem team should stop trying to be cute and doing multiple routes
So,what went wrong with Radiant Dawn and The Sacred Stones, then? I'm well aware how Fates is shit, though.
 
See, I pose my question because I've stumbled across tirades like these that are as recent as this year, and after vaguely remembering some of the other straight up rants I've seen people go on in defense of Edelgard, it's only now starting to dawn on me how potentially unhinged Edelgard simps are.

I could post more but I think these do well enough to make my case for me. Considering I've seen long form analysis take place in previous posts ITT, I'm curious to hear what some other people's thoughts are on all this sperging, provided they care to skim through it all.
I played black eagles first, and always found the church people to be suspicious and obviously lying and letting months go by without even trying to explain the weird shit they were up to. So I sided with Edelgard. I didn't even think she was a villain, and had no idea the route split in chapter 10 until I looked it up. The idea of siding with the church just seemed ludicrous given how obviously evil they were. I played the other two main routes, they sucked, and all the characters sucked, and the maps didn't have enough variety, and it was piss easy on normal and hard and actually annoying on maddening since you have to turtle up at choke points to efficiently deal with enemies. They should have finished up the Edelgard route where you kill the ayys or whatever the fuck they were. Instead, you kill Rhea cause she was full of shit about being a dragon, and your super saiyan thing or whatever went away. And then the game just sort of ends.
 
So,what went wrong with Radiant Dawn and The Sacred Stones, then? I'm well aware how Fates is shit, though.
I’m not sure if I call them the exception, or just assume that everyone involved in writing and localizing them has left over the years and now we have talentless hacks in the writing room.

I’ll flip a coin there to be honest, but I lean towards the latter personally…
 
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First image is actually pretty fair. Second one is kind of retarded because (...)
For the record, both images are part of the same overall tirade from the same person.

So what I'm getting out of most people's feedback here is that these fine folks suffer from a delusion of thinking their waifu's story is a lot more deeper, meaningful, and justified than it really is by the game(s) (if we want to count Three Hopes) own writing, and all sympathy and empathy goes out the window for literally everyone who isn't Edelgard, because Edelgard can do no wrong.
 
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So,what went wrong with Radiant Dawn and The Sacred Stones, then? I'm well aware how Fates is shit, though.
I haven't played Radiant Dawn yet but there's nothing wrong with the two routes in Sacred Stones. You get a couple of different levels and a few different story events that don't change anything major in the story. They reconnect back into one pretty quickly if I remember right.
So what I'm getting out of most people's feedback here is that these fine folks suffer from a delusion of thinking their waifu's story is a lot more deeper, meaningful, and justified than it really is by the game(s) (if we want to count Three Hopes) own writing, and all sympathy and empathy goes out the window for literally everyone who isn't Edelgard, because Edelgard can do no wrong.
I kind of wish they would've made Egelgard a guy instead of a chick so that people would look at her story more objectively. I think you're right by saying people only defend her because they think she's hot.
 
For the record, both images are part of the same overall tirade from the same person.

So what I'm getting out of most people's feedback here is that these fine folks suffer from a delusion of thinking their waifu's story is a lot more deeper, meaningful, and justified than it really is by the game(s) (if we want to count Three Hopes) own writing, and all sympathy and empathy goes out the window for literally everyone who isn't Edelgard, because Edelgard can do no wrong.
And the other side is kinda gay too but has more poorly narrativized canon on its side.
I kind of wish they would've made Egelgard a guy instead of a chick so that people would look at her story more objectively. I think you're right by saying people only defend her because they think she's hot.
Not sure if that’s the case at all. People tend to better tolerate grim subject matter from guy characters all the time and the fandom already treats a girl (Dorothea) far worse than a guy (Sylvain) for… not even the same behavior but for touching on similar subjects.
 
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I kind of wish they would've made Egelgard a guy instead of a chick so that people would look at her story more objectively. I think you're right by saying people only defend her because they think she's hot.
Not sure if that’s the case at all. People tend to better tolerate grim subject matter from guy characters all the time and the fandom already treats a girl (Dorothea) far worse than a guy (Sylvain) for… not even the same behavior but for touching on similar subjects.
I'm inclined to think it's the case considering, after doing some digging, these people also happen to be massive yurifags. And I don't mean the DLC femboy house leader in Three Houses.
 
I'm inclined to think it's the case considering, after doing some digging, these people also happen to be massive yurifags. And I don't mean the DLC femboy house leader in Three Houses.
If we limit our question to if her current fans would like her, sure they would not. But I thought we were asking if she’d still have simps as a guy. And yes “she” would. Men simp for e-daddies too and a male Edelgard with explicit Napoleonic references would be “based as heck”
 
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So,what went wrong with Radiant Dawn and The Sacred Stones, then? I'm well aware how Fates is shit, though.
With Radiant Dawn are you refering to the split armies? The game shifts its focus a lot which can annoy players if they for example want to play as the Greil Mercs rather than the Dawn Brigade but the game itself is just one route that always plays out in the same order

I kind of wish they would've made Egelgard a guy instead of a chick so that people would look at her story more objectively. I think you're right by saying people only defend her because they think she's hot.
Considering Arvis and what discussion about him looks like, this checks out.
 
If we limit our question to if her current fans would like her, sure they would not. But I thought we were asking if she’d still have simps as a guy. And yes “she” would. Men simp for e-daddies too and a male Edelgard with explicit Napoleonic references would be “based as heck”
Some guys might, but I think there'd be a notable dip in the number of Edelgard fans out of there if things had been different and she was actually a male character instead.

And then you'd probably have people complaining that Three Houses is too much of a sausagefest because, ew, penis-havers. I'm so straight that I only like women. In fact, I only like it when women are with other women because I'm so aggressively straight.
 
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Some guys might, but I think there'd be a notable dip in the number of Edelgard fans out of there if things had been different and she was actually a male character instead.
But less than the premium female characters generically enjoy!
Anecdotally, I've noticed that most of the people that frequently praise the Black Eagles are huge coomers.
Perhaps. I would expect Golden Deer to be more coomerific though. Lysithea, Hilda, and Marianne must have more tags than Edelgard, Dorothea, Bernadetta, and even Petra thrown in for an additional girl.

I’ll consult the boorus.

Results: Black Eagles have roughly 150 more tags, thanks to Petra. If we just compared Lysithea, Hilda, Marianne to Edelgard, Bernadetta, and Dorothea the Deers would be the coomer house.

Black Eagles probably has waaaay more Yuri (like the Lions have all the Yaoi) while Deers obviously have all the lolicons, bestiality, and spade-posters if 4chan is any guide.
 
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So what I'm getting out of most people's feedback here is that these fine folks suffer from a delusion of thinking their waifu's story is a lot more deeper, meaningful, and justified than it really is by the game(s) (if we want to count Three Hopes) own writing, and all sympathy and empathy goes out the window for literally everyone who isn't Edelgard, because Edelgard can do no wrong.
Well, it certainly doesn't help that both of the games tries to sell themselves as an incredibly deep story when 3 Copes kept repeating the "my partner in destiny" crap and the current lord's writing. And Houses is just the cast commenting on the ethics of medieval terrorism.

I’ll consult the boorus
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But less than the premium female characters generically enjoy!

Perhaps. I would expect Golden Deer to be more coomerific though. Lysithea, Hilda, and Marianne must have more tags than Edelgard, Dorothea, Bernadetta, and even Petra thrown in for an additional girl.

I’ll consult the boorus.

Results: Black Eagles have roughly 150 more tags, thanks to Petra. If we just compared Lysithea, Hilda, Marianne to Edelgard, Bernadetta, and Dorothea the Deers would be the coomer house.

Black Eagles probably has more waaaay Yuri (like the Lions have all the Yaoi) while Deers obviously have all the lolicons, bestiality, and spade-posters if 4chan is any guide.
I would've thought Deers might've had more yaoi considering how everyone is gay for Claude.
 
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Considering Arvis and what discussion about him looks like, this checks out.
Early on in the thread, I described Arvis as an almost preemptive deconstruction of Edelgard, with his effort to create a better world by conquering the continent going to hell as the dark cult he allied with proceeded to usurp him while the conquered territories started resisting the rather harsh occupation. I stand by that point, and feel that people would make the connection and be less obsessed with Edelgard was a dude. You rarely see people say that Arvis was completely justified, especially in regard to the Belhalla Barbecue Party, while even Edelgard directly trying to kill her classmates seems to be considered justifiable for her fans.
 
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