'I'm so upset': This Gen Z worker went absolutely viral for slamming the 9-to-5 work day - Complains it leaves no time for friends, dating, working out. But does she have a point?

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Sabina Wex
Thu, October 26, 2023 at 5:00 PM EDT

Gen Z have officially entered the working world — and they aren’t too excited about it.
New grad Brielle posted a viral TikTok last week that has divided the internet. She explained through tears that her first 9-to-5 role leaves her no time to do anything but eat, sleep and shower. Brielle has to leave the house at 7:30 each morning to commute into New York for her in-office marketing job and doesn’t arrive back until at least 6:15 p.m.

“I’m so upset,” she says in the video, explaining that it’s not her job, just the 9-to-5 schedule itself. “How do you have time for friends? How do you have time to meet a guy?”
Her video blew up online, drawing some sharp responses initially. But many other replies were sympathetic, recalling the difficult first days of settling into a new lifestyle: “I had a crisis when I got my first 9-to-5 job. Literally I couldn’t believe this was life.”
So is Brielle complaining? Or is the 9-to-5 lifestyle really that bad?

40-hour work week​

In a follow-up to her viral video, Brielle explains how she feels about work: “That’s the whole 9-to-5 system: pushing the same rock up the hill.”
Brielle’s not wrong: the 40-hour work week was designed to be Sisyphean. It began in the Industrial Revolution to create schedules for assembly line workers, but in the late 1800s, 70 hours would have been common, says Benjamin Hunnicutt, a historian who studies the history of leisure and work, told NPR.
That was slowly whittled down until the 40-hour week became the norm during the Great Depression until it was enshrined in law in the 1940s. Economists and analysts expected the week would continue to shrink — John Maynard Keynes actually predicted that technological advances could see the workweek shrink to just 15 hours by 2030.
But that never happened. In fact, now, all workers are expected to fit into this assembly line mold — even if they’re working in marketing office jobs, like Brielle.
There has been a push for the four-day work week, which advocates like 4 Day Week Global argue increases worker efficiency. It hasn’t quite caught on in the U.S., but the recent “summer of strikes” has shown that workers of all ages do want to see drastic changes from their employers.

Poor equity​

In another follow-up video, Brielle explains that she wants to see a structural change to the 9-to-5 work schedule because it imposes inflexibility on workers that don’t always make it up the chain of command.
“It’s not fair that the only people that are benefiting [from 9-to-5] are the people that either run the corporations and can make their own schedules, so they just pile on the work to people that are less fortunate,” she says.
And while many would argue those workers are fairly compensated for their time, growing wages simply haven’t kept up with inflation. If you look at the minimum wage, you can see this is true: 1980’s minimum hourly wage was $3.10; today, it’s $7.25. This may sound like a big jump, but inflation means that a dollar in the 1980 is worth $3.68 in today’s purchasing power. If minimum wage accurately reflected inflation and cost of living, it would now be $11.40.
We’ve already seen trends responding to this, including Gen Z’s penchant for what they call “lazy girl jobs,” which require minimal effort while taking in a decent salary. When their paychecks aren’t covering both rent and groceries, it’s not hard to understand why employees are resisting the system.

Work-life balance​

Considering work and her commute take up nearly 11 hours of her day, Brielle has a point when she says she has limited time — and energy — for a social life after work. She adds that it’s even worse if you have kids or any other dependents.
But this lack of life is starting to see pushback from people like Brielle. A recent ResumeLab survey discovered that 73% of Gen Z will pick a job with a better work-life balance over a higher salary.
Brielle’s TikTok sums up the general feelings toward work culture right now. And it appears it’s not just Gen Z who feels this way, with many older workers agreeing with her in their comments. And perhaps these older workers would have said something earlier, but they didn’t have TikTok to share their message far and wide.
 
to commute into New York for her in-office marketing job
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Do Americans even realise that 9-5 is considered a very short work day in other countries? And I mean First World countries.
Where? besides korea and japan I mean.
Literally just find whatever cave they stuck your network engineers and start making excuses to hang around there, something like "I just need to have 5 minutes where my boss can't find me, today is soooo busy!", and even the least autistic one will probably crawl across broken glass to move you in with him
What she means is that she can't get a male model C-suite guy to marry her on the spot, she doesn't want some sysadmin nerd who has a crusty my little pony bodypillow back in his basement 1-bedroom apartment.
 
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That's literally what's happening in this article, even if the girl in it comes off as an entitled brat. Some people in the big cities are literally working for the sake of working: gas prices, car insurance, and clothes will add up to more than their paycheck. My zoomer little cousins realized the same thing. Experience? All anyone hires is based on recommendation/"networking" these days. Glorified nepotism.
She’s realised, but she’s not doing anything about it. Whining online is not doing anything. We all whines about covid as well but nobody did anything. What’s the break point? What on earth is going to make young people say ‘no more. Stop or we eat you.’
Look at how people worked as literal serfs in the medieval ages, or in colonial america. There were periods of a lot of hard work and there were periods of relaxation.
Yeah. I live in a place that has nice long days in summer and grim cold wet winters. I’ve often thought that we no longer have the rhythm to the year we should have. In summer you have the energy, I’m often in the garden until ten at night. I don’t need to sleep as much. Winter feels like a time to slow down, regenerate, and rest. I’ve also lived in far more northerly places and felt that even more strongly. Working so hard all the time isn’t how we are made. We’ve lost that seasonality.
We live very disconnected from the world.
 
She’s realised, but she’s not doing anything about it. Whining online is not doing anything. We all whines about covid as well but nobody did anything. What’s the break point? What on earth is going to make young people say ‘no more. Stop or we eat you.’
Look at what else is happening in the cities right now: crime has effectively been legalized. If people can't buy, they'll take. And if no one stops them, they'll keep doing it. If they're not thieving, they're dropping out of society and a society cannot propagate itself if people refuse to participate. Things like this happen slowly but gradually build momentum. The lockdowns pushed the snowball down the snowy mountain hill. People don't just start pulling out guns, raping, and looting. First there is outrage. Then there is growing hostility. Violence finally breaks out and it escalates if no one's there to stop it, like the riots we often see from joggers. Whatever happens can't be organized because the feds are always on that shit. Hell, they start it half the time. It's going to be natural, passionate, and seemingly out of absolutely nowhere.

Once people see more in destroying social order than ignoring it or following it, it's all over.
 
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Where? besides korea and japan I mean.

What she means is that she can't get a male model C-suite guy to marry her on the spot, she doesn't want some sysadmin nerd who has a crusty my little pony bodypillow back in his basement 1-bedroom apartment.
Japanese work culture is all about face rather than actually getting shit done most of the time. You're supposed to be appearing to be hard at work. It's not that different than in other countries, but because of the longer hours you get shit like Inemuri, where you can take short naps at work.
 
It's 8 hours over 6 days, though obviously most people only work 5. Lunch breaks are required if you work more than 6 hours in a day, but there's no guarantee they'll be paid (though they generally are). It's also meant to be a maximum (unless you opt out), which is averaged over several weeks. If you work more than 48 hours a week over a given period, you either have to get back-dated overtime or get time in lieu, which means extra paid holiday.
None of this makes sense to me.

The work week is 6 days (??) but the vast majority only work 5.

It's like saying most eggs have 1 yolk but some have 2 which means 2 yolks per egg is the standard.

Huh??
 
Long commutes are annoying as hell. It's perfectly normal to hate it and it's why you find loads of people wanting to move into the city so that they have more free time.
 
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If they're not thieving, they're dropping out of society and a society cannot propagate itself if people refuse to participate.
You know full well that the kind of people doing the flash stealing mobs and other shit are not at all the same that drops out of society because the game is rigged. These people depend on society to exist, on others to do the work so they can eat.

In a world without a society to parasite they would get strung up on the roads for brigandage as it used to be the norm.

As for the rest, I think you're being too optimistic. I see countries like Turkey and Argentina with collapsing economies and double-digit monthly inflation and.........nothing happens, even tho those are developing nations with population less educated and more violence-prone than us Americans. And yet Ankara isn't burning, Buenos Aires isn't erecting guillotines, nothing. Even during the great depression when you had even upper-middle class people reduced to going to soup lines there was no rebellion, the closest thing being the bonus army and even that got taken down without sparking other rebellions or uprisings.

So what would it take? what would actually get people to rebel? I don't know, but what I see is that nowadays the worse things get the more people want daddy government to protect them, not the other way around. They don't want to live even a day without their phones, their cars, their double-cream pumpkin spice lattes and other creature comforts for the sake of a better future. Take that away and they'll go to DC begging for a return to "normalcy", and they will be thankful to get any semblancy of that.
 
In a perfect world, there shouldn't be the need for a second job or even a full time position anymore. Private healthcare sucks, Obama care sucks, the medical industry is completely fucked with shortages where it takes three months for your cold. May as well take your chances building a side business or having some passive form of income to go alonside say a part time job. We have a computer in the palm of our hands, there is no excuse to not have multiple sources of income in this era of technology. Problem is, creativity is directly correlated with individualism; which is under attack and slowly being bred out of culture. Not to mention the millenial boomer take of "suck it up and boostrap it." y'all are starting to sound like my 80 year old mother who says College is the path to an easy life.
 
You know full well that the kind of people doing the flash stealing mobs and other shit are not at all the same that drops out of society because the game is rigged. These people depend on society to exist, on others to do the work so they can eat.

In a world without a society to parasite they would get strung up on the roads for brigandage as it used to be the norm.

As for the rest, I think you're being too optimistic. I see countries like Turkey and Argentina with collapsing economies and double-digit monthly inflation and.........nothing happens, even tho those are developing nations with population less educated and more violence-prone than us Americans. And yet Ankara isn't burning, Buenos Aires isn't erecting guillotines, nothing. Even during the great depression when you had even upper-middle class people reduced to going to soup lines there was no rebellion, the closest thing being the bonus army and even that got taken down without sparking other rebellions or uprisings.

So what would it take? what would actually get people to rebel? I don't know, but what I see is that nowadays the worse things get the more people want daddy government to protect them, not the other way around. They don't want to live even a day without their phones, their cars, their double-cream pumpkin spice lattes and other creature comforts for the sake of a better future. Take that away and they'll go to DC begging for a return to "normalcy", and they will be thankful to get any semblancy of that.
If we go by what last caused a revolution in the US, horrible taxes without proper representation (hahahahaha).
But really it's the point where a majority think their life would be better if they put up a fight. Modern comforts make reaching that point hard, as seen by all the people calling for change here and doing jackshit while complaining about the teenagers not doing anything either. The end result is things rotting. Eventually people will have enough but that eventually is pretty far down there.

I suppose you can make a distinction between the looters and quitters but they're both the early signs of the decline.
 
The end result is things rotting. Eventually people will have enough but that eventually is pretty far down there.
Having been sent to countries far worse off than America I can tell you that there is no "enough" anymore. People who can afford to leave leaves, the ones too poor and uneducated stay unless the better country is right at the border in which case they just bumrush it like its happening with our southern border.

I think part of the problem is being able to just bail out and go wherever things are better. This option its a rather recent one, historically-speaking migration happened in mass, was a very dangerous endeavor and when they arrived they became a permanent underclass under the natives or took over the place, there was no "coexist" shit. That's why revolutions were more common, because most of the time you didn't have the option of just leaving for somewhere else, you had to stay and fight. If things went back to the "historic normal" with countries rejecting migrants (plenty of countries still do) revolutions will explode in many countries, particularly arab and subsaharan africa which have been using mass migration as a social pressure valve.

But my point is if shit does hit the fan I expect most Americans will just leave to wherever is better/safer, specially the middle class that can't afford to live in enclaves that protect them from the gangs and kidnappers. Tho in a world where we collapsed I doubt there will be many safe havens left that still have any open doors. Odds are we'll be back to walled city-states.
 
So what would it take? what would actually get people to rebel? I don't know, but what I see is that nowadays the worse things get the more people want daddy government to protect them, not the other way around. They don't want to live even a day without their phones, their cars, their double-cream pumpkin spice lattes and other creature comforts for the sake of a better future. Take that away and they'll go to DC begging for a return to "normalcy", and they will be thankful to get any semblancy of that.
When the wheels fall off the wagon, I'll admit I don't know what it will look like.

But, in my opinion, it isn't going to be a revolution or some shit. Just everything falling apart into uselessness Empire of Dust style. What would people even rebel against? The government? All of those people are replaceable and not the source of this shit. The NGOs? The international corporations? The finance industry? The MIC? What would that even look like? And even if it were successful it'd be a pyrrhic victory as our society has been bent so far in service of these various interests that "taking them down" - again whatever that would look like - would lead to the same outcome.

There's nothing to "rebel" against. And even if you wanted to "do something", you'd be snapped up and thrown in a cell.
 
But, in my opinion, it isn't going to be a revolution or some shit. Just everything falling apart into uselessness Empire of Dust style.
That's a more extreme case, the belgian congo had some infrastructure but it was far from being anywhere near an industrialized country, even Iraq had more infrastructure until we destroyed it. Point being I agree there wont be a revolution but if I had to guess how the future USA will look like I would go with post-soviet Russia. We already have a corrupt and inept political class and our oligarchs are just as bad just less noveau riche and more well-mannered so normies think they are somehow less evil than the russian ones (they aren't). In Russia you got enclaves that look better than the best of western europe and others that look like a fourth-world shithole. We're seeing some of that here in America too, even within states like Pennsylvania you got favela-grade tent cities with fent zombies walking around and on the other hand super fancy malls with parking lots full of porsches, bimmers and even ferraris. We also have the crumbling infrastructure, abandoned factories, social decay and falling birthrates.

See the concept of hypernormalization:

The difference is that we were far better off than russians ever were so we're figurately falling from a much greater height its taking longer to reach the bottom. Plus our elites are doing everything they can to avoid a massive shock like the soviet collapse was, they want to boil us slowly.
 
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I think part of the problem is being able to just bail out and go wherever things are better.
That's also why the elites have absolutely no incentive to make things even partway livable anymore. They can stripmine a continent of absolutely everything of worth and then flee within hours to New Zealand if things look like they're even starting to turn bad for them with only a slight loss in a standard of living for them. This ability is absolutely unprecedented in human history and it will only get worse when the elites can live offworld.
 
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