The Tenacious Unicorn Ranch / @TenaciousRanch / Steampunk Penny / Penellope Logue / Phillip Matthew Logue - Don't cry because it ended, laugh because it's still getting worse.

[glass_houses]

Have there been any actual, credible reports of abuse (towards people) from the tranch? Like, I'm surprised. The tranch's whole situation makes it the perfect opportunity to abuse someone. It's in the middle of no where, somewhat off grid, takes in effectively homeless trannies who coast into town on fumes. There is no money flowing down from the top into the hands of the field troons so it's nearly impossible to escape once they're there. Everybody is mentally ill and has access to guns. And even if someone came forward, the trans community at large would try to cover it up or shout down the accuser for 'being a TERF'.

But the most we have heard is super vague comments about a sexual assault, and comments about Penny's 'toxic and manipulative behavior' without any real examples. So we get things like 'I was made to do household chores' and 'Penny didn't care that a grown adult might possibly have an eating disorder' as proof of the so called abuse?

Like, if I was Phil and I had just put in a hard day's work of their attempt at ranching, the last thing I would care about is a freeloader who maybe isn't eating enough. 'Good', I might even think to myself, 'more food for all three of us that do actual work around here'. Just because he (and Paul) were in charge of the tranch doesn't mean they are also responsible for every serf's mental health.

But to piggy back off of @glad vlad upthread, I truly want to understand these people's mindsets and what they expected out of the tranch experience. Have they just being getting away with pulling the 'muh mental health' card to be getting handouts all their adult life? And if that's the case, how could they think that excuse would work on a ranch?

The problem is that pretty much everyone on the Tranch was some form of Cluster B, and I've never met a Cluster B that told the fucking truth... even to themselves. They were all heavily abusing weed and very likely other drugs as well. I've no doubt that Penny is an abusive, violent, manipulative, vainglorious nutjob, but I've also no doubt that everyone else there was too, and it was basically a case of who had the stronger will. PL, but many years ago I briefly sharehoused with two Cluster Bs, they lied to me, they lied to each other, they lied to themselves, and honestly, by the time I was able to break free of them my brain was so scrambled I didn't know which way was up or down. Took me months to sort my shit out and to this day I'm still not sure what was real.

Even if by some miracle their memories are clear, with all the dodgy shit went on, it's pretty much impossible for any of these dreadful people to be specific because chances are good they'll either self incriminate or Penny will find his own dirt to throw back at them. It's highly unlikely that we'll ever hear the 'real' story because absolutely nothing in, around, or about the tranch was real to begin with.

 

[retard strength II]

Troons fling rape accusations around like there's no tomorrow. But the MtFs also really love to rape. So it is very difficult to figure out what actually happened or what the truth is. Most unreliable narrators to exist. And no one cares less about the crime or the victim or even pursuing the truth when it might make their side or friends look bad, than troons themselves.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

But the MtFs also really love to rape. So it is very difficult to figure out what actually happened or what the truth is.

Is it possible they've all been raping each other?

 

[Aunt Carol]

PL, but many years ago I briefly sharehoused with two Cluster Bs, they lied to me, they lied to each other, they lied to themselves, and honestly, by the time I was able to break free of them my brain was so scrambled I didn't know which way was up or down. Took me months to sort my shit out and to this day I'm still not sure what was real.

The Tranch is like the Final Fantasy House if they'd been able to deploy the troonshield (and get gibs from the community at large).

 

[Oxyjen]

It sounds like they were concerned about "one of the four" having an eating disorder, i.e. the four originals, Penny, Kev, Bonnie, or Jen. There has been speculation that Jen has some sort of eating disorder (besides the eating shit one), probably anorexia. Maybe that's why he's so cranky all the time.

I don’t think that was about the “founders” (and don’t forget Sky!)

“I know that the other four ranchers, the people who left before us, didn't feel this way. They didn't want it to be this way. I talked to them. I tried.”

That’s referring to other field troons, has to be. Another FTM for sure, if the eating disorder part is true.

 

[stupid frog]

Have there been any actual, credible reports of abuse (towards people) from the tranch?

Lol, no. ACAB, remember?

 

[BunchofMunch]

I'm willing to give benefit of the doubt about the car litter, and think that maybe "triggering" is a bad word choice.

Spoiler: Autism PL

If I have to handle excrement of any kind, I vomit. I'll plug my nose to avoid smelling it, and I have to not be able to see it close-up. If I pick it up I have to avoid "feeling" it. Even typing this out makes me gag. It's probably some stupid sensory processing issue, and it sucks.

I've still cleaned many litter boxes...

But why not compromise and switch the chore with someone else if it's that bad, and someone knows it's that bad?
Be adults, and talk to each other haha.

If it's truly a sensory processing issue with handling feces, I think a ranch with hundreds of animals is a pretty bad choice of living situation. I mean, we've all seen the pictures of the dung piles that's basically visible from space, handling literal crap would be like 50% of the tasks there.

 

[Lou's Sentient Backfat]

If it's truly a sensory processing issue with handling feces, I think a ranch with hundreds of animals is a pretty bad choice of living situation. I mean, we've all seen the pictures of the dung piles that's basically visible from space, handling literal crap would be like 50% of the tasks there.

That's what they keep Jen around for, remember.

 

[BunchofMunch]

That's what they keep Jen around for, remember.

Not if he's gonna keep that sexy skelly body of his

 

[AssignedEva]

Troons fling rape accusations around like there's no tomorrow. But the MtFs also really love to rape. So it is very difficult to figure out what actually happened or what the truth is. Most unreliable narrators to exist. And no one cares less about the crime or the victim or even pursuing the truth when it might make their side or friends look bad, than troons themselves.

Jarrod clearly was the closest to them for a time - in January 2022 the FTMs were even using Jarrod's cashapp to beg for donations for HRT.

By April 2022 something had happened and the FTMs' relationship with the Tranch had broken down massively. We see she was "not going to be comfortable with hugs or close contact for a while" and the person she was talking about got angry with her for not budging on that boundary -

Final-stage meltdown ranting from Neptune whatsit today (she’s apparently calling it a night at 8AM loca time). Too much to quote but she hates someone and is leaving Twitter and/or the tranch. Hard to say.

Edit again: I'm just gonna screenshot the whole meltdown because I think it's very interesting. Even though she's a whiny overdramatic baby, it genuinely sounds like they were using regular abuser's tactics on her.

Jarrod was the only man on the Tranch with functional genitals (although he did start shooting up oestrogen by the end), other than Sky and Bonnie (who'd both left at that point, and both Bonnie and Sky seem to be on Vulpis's side and follow her on twitter). It's also very telling that some of her schizo rambling keeps repeating the idea "you think I hate you but I don't hate you", and in her apology tweet to Jarrod she also says "I don't hate you" - likewise "I know you'll never see these" and then in the apology tweet "if you do see this". There's also complaining about "I'm not a vessel for your good intentions, I cannot hold your loneliness".

So it sorta sounds like Jarrod and Vulpis did something sexual together, Vulpis felt off about the whole thing and called it quits, and then Jarrod seethed and raged when she kept shutting him down because he has well established anger issues and clearly doesn't hold back in expressing them. The fact that Neck could "put words in her mouth" about sexual assault has me wondering if she was maybe blowing him in return for favours (e.g. in one post she complains she didn't know how to change the tanks in her propane heater) and cut it off because Jarrod started wanting the girlfriend experience? A pissed off cluster B could definitely be lead down the garden path of "I blew him in return for favours" --> "He exploited me for blowjobs" --> "He basically groomed me into performing sex acts and I had to keep doing them because I was vulnerable and had to rely on his help, and when I stopped he began using manipulative abuser tactics on me"

I wish we knew more about Jarrod's antics - he has pretty much gone to ground since he last begging tweet. His weird dog "girlfriend" he's in a throuple with has been posting up a storm about being on a roadtrip in Nebraska and Iowa and "can't even get out of bed now everything is over" (in context this seems to suggest their precarious housing situation has been resolved). TicTac (who's dog-girlfriend's "girlfriend", I'm a bit unclear if he also goes out with Jarrod) seemingly works as a lighting engineer at several furry cons and has links to Last Caw Events (some organisation that does furry meetups in Colorado). I think this is Jarrod at The Stanley Marketplace in Colorado recently -
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and TicTac also has tweeted out some pictures of these lovely cats
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who have a twitter account, @PicklesNStrudel, which indicates they're owned by @Blooest, "Matriarch of a household of trans girls making a living in Denver." So maybe the throuple got some work with furry cons or something and then have been able to get some money together and move into that "household of trans girls"?

 

[Fetish Roulette]

These people keep crying 'abuse!' and 'the tranch is toxic!', but then go on to say they are triggered by scooping kitty litter and wouldn't even do basic chores around the place. Yeah, no shit Phil was mad at you all the time, you're just fucking dead weight who wouldn't even sign up for food stamps to help feed the handful of people who did something resembling work.

This kitty litter drama is great.

I deeply wish I could ask these people about their conceptions of life and how households operate. Vulpes says that she and her partner have “the kind of disabilities where they can’t do daily activities”. What does that mean to her? Clearly cleaning the litter box is out of the question. Can they do other housework? Can they cook or clean? Can they do field work, feeding animals or hauling off dead alpacas?

If not… was her idea that she would move to the Tranch and people would provide her free housing, food, a gas allowance, and she would just… not contribute at all? Her annoyance that Penny wanted her to sign up for food stamps and then used the food stamps collectively is interesting.

TBH I am fascinated. Farm and ranch work is some of the hardest work you can do, but many of these people seemed to think that they would do nothing and the system would just take care of them. HOW??? It’s just such an interesting worldview, where you can imagine an autonomous and self sufficient queer anarchist ranch, but you think that you will be carefully nurtured and never have to touch cat turds???

Also truly great that the “men” talk endlessly and with great care about their feelings and their eating disorders and the “women” are domineering pricks who don’t care that you’re sad lol.

I understand what you're trying to get at here, but the reality of the Tranch was that there were people who were carefully nurtured and who never had to do any kind of work at all, like Kevin. Vulpes did the exact same things as Kevin (pleaded disability and oppression, flopped around uselessly in the exact same way, etc.), but Kevin got to reap the rewards of the Tranch while she was literally left outside in the cold. If Kevin's consooming budget was even cut in half, say, there probably would have been enough food for everyone without even needing the food stamps.

If the Tranch wasn't such a lefty/communalist type place then maybe running it like a feudal estate would be easier to reconcile. As things stand I agree with the pooner that she got a bad deal, even if the way she describes her story points to a sense of entitlement.

 

[Attractive Sexhaver]

I understand what you're trying to get at here, but the reality of the Tranch was that there were people who were carefully nurtured and who never had to do any kind of work at all, like Kevin. Vulpes did the exact same things as Kevin (pleaded disability and oppression, flopped around uselessly in the exact same way, etc.), but Kevin got to reap the rewards of the Tranch while she was literally left outside in the cold. If Kevin's consooming budget was even cut in half, say, there probably would have been enough food for everyone without even needing the food stamps.

You're 100% right that Kevin contributed no value of any kind. However, I've worked in a few small family owned companies where the boss' wife/mistress (sometimes both) did fuck all work in return for stroking the boss' ego. It's revolting to think about in the context of the tranch, but it is a dynamic that exists. Kevin's "job" was to make Penny feel like a dominant mommy sexy enough to pull two concubines. It's all a fantasy and based on nothing of course, but it makes Penny feel good.

In fact, I think Bonnie had been honest about why he wanted Kindness around he could have made it work with Penny. Something like "yeah she's fucking crazy, but you get two useless wives, I want two as well. We are going to call her head therapist or something. No, we aren't going to give her any actual responsibilities. It's either that or you dump a concubine."

So yeah, it's shit luck for that pooner to watch Kevin swan around indoors complaining about making tea, but life hands you bad deals sometimes.

 

[Doctor Bigbooty]

You're 100% right that Kevin contributed no value of any kind. However, I've worked in a few small family owned companies where the boss' wife/mistress (sometimes both) did fuck all work in return for stroking the boss' ego. It's revolting to think about in the context of the tranch, but it is a dynamic that exists. Kevin's "job" was to make Penny feel like a dominant mommy sexy enough to pull two concubines. It's all a fantasy and based on nothing of course, but it makes Penny feel good.

In fact, I think Bonnie had been honest about why he wanted Kindness around he could have made it work with Penny. Something like "yeah she's fucking crazy, but you get two useless wives, I want two as well. We are going to call her head therapist or something. No, we aren't going to give her any actual responsibilities. It's either that or you dump a concubine."

So yeah, it's shit luck for that pooner to watch Kevin swan around indoors complaining about making tea, but life hands you bad deals sometimes.

I was under the impression Kevin's more "official job" was being the Twitter PR creature, that his constant speging over whatever plastic fandom crap he kept buying with e-begging money was supposed to help lure in more suckers.

 

[stupid frog]

Yeah, Kevin says his job was PR. I'm sure his worker isn't aware that was even a thing.

 

[Arch Zealot]

He was also “hired” to be Gash cayote’s pr and twitter manager. But has never mentioned it since

 

[AfghanBlue]

Is it possible they've all been raping each other?

Rapin' and vapin'

And yeah, @Attractive Sexhaver I agree about Kindness. they fucked up on that one, it's not like they'd have had to pay her, opposite in fact. Like all the rest of the cult members, she would pay her lowly benefits into the pot, just like all the other field serfs did. Coulda made money off her in fact. and had someone to mop up the cat-piss.
Now, with that potential, we've really got to wonder just how mask-off she went with the mad behaviour once she felt comfortable enough to demand some attention after having to pay the grinding role of person working in ranch who is not being catered to every moment.

It must have been next fucking level bad- far more than we have any idea of thusfar- for this bunch of gunts to pass up a serf who had actually demonstrated the where withall to clean the house at least once, and a new tugboat input.

I reckon whatever we've heard about her pretending to be blind bb-bot and running into the wall, barely scratched the surface of what happened.
Even for those details to slip out, suggests something so mental happened that the fact that got out was probably a very dilute, abridged version, of one of many more anecdotes.

All I want for Christmas is for Kindness to un-private her twitter

fuck....maybe she's already on blue-sky?
I dont fuck with that and am never about to.
But whoever is already on there for Kevin should probably look for her..

 

[retard strength II]

I agree about Kindness. they fucked up on that one, it's not like they'd have had to pay her, opposite in fact. Like all the rest of the cult members, she would pay her lowly benefits into the pot, just like all the other field serfs did. Coulda made money off her in fact. and had someone to mop up the cat-piss.

Yeah, we know she was getting emboldened enough to begin blind LARPing in front of the tranchers and was using her TOTALLY REAL SEIZURES as an excuse to not leave during the week. She quit her easy as fuck nanny "job" immediately to go hang out with Paul punch Nazis like a superhero. I mean they made the right call since, within months of leaving the tranch, she became completely, utterly fucking useless and buck broke Paul into working a normal 9 to 5 on top of being her "caregiver" while she took like 17 baths a day.

Speculation, but I think Sky being pissed about his "husband" ditching him for her + Kev being very salty about being turned down by her pushed Penis into action real quick. Like, even before realizing he was gonna be saddled with another freeloader that would never have the Spoons to clean cat shit or kill alpaca or shoot at manure backstops facing a road take rotating guard duty.
I think Penis and Sky [and Jen] are true and honest faggots while the rest are prison gay/T4T and he realized what a fucking dramabomb it was going to be having an actual woman willing to flirt with, be energized by, and exist around these nerds.

I, too, wish we got more/knew more from her time there though.

 

[The Rabbit Holes]

I'm willing to give benefit of the doubt about the car litter, and think that maybe "triggering" is a bad word choice.

Spoiler: Autism PL

If I have to handle excrement of any kind, I vomit. I'll plug my nose to avoid smelling it, and I have to not be able to see it close-up. If I pick it up I have to avoid "feeling" it. Even typing this out makes me gag. It's probably some stupid sensory processing issue, and it sucks.

I've still cleaned many litter boxes...

But why not compromise and switch the chore with someone else if it's that bad, and someone knows it's that bad?
Be adults, and talk to each other haha.

to further tack onto the benefit of the doubt here.
you sign up to care for a herd of outdoor animals. brushing, feeding, shearing, and using a shovel to clear shit away in exchange for boarding and food, and heat during the winter.

instead you are told to get your face into the 5 week old cat box of 4+ cats that belong to other people and inhale dust and debris from cheap litter. You pry stale chunks from the walls of a decaying plastic tub using a plastic scoop that threatens to snap under the pressure while inside a house you are not allowed to sleep inside of. Your other hand holds the bag for this orderous shit and piss, because there is no bin to place it in.

and then you get screamed at by a hulking man with a gun to get food stamps that will not even be yours alone to provide for yourself for while his pet slobbers through another bale of sugary goods and plastic toys.

sure, all sides are retarded when you read their languishing woke-speak, but one is two sucicidal women living out of a car and the other is a man with guns who has displayed all the signs of being willing to shoot you and bury you alongside the animals and who frequently goes on paranoid rants, who they had to rely for access to the basic necessities like running water.

 

[FinnSven]

So yeah, it's shit luck for that pooner to watch Kevin swan around indoors complaining about making tea, but life hands you bad deals sometimes.

It’s not really luck.

It’s mostly showing up expecting to be taken care of because she claimed to be in need of their help.

Then they don’t want to help because dedicating resources to helping people eats into their grift.

What they really wanted was someone capable of getting free money from somewhere.

Be it a government grant for “vulnerable minorities”, an angel investor expecting no return, or just an independently wealthy troon happy to hand over millions.

Some chick who really should have checked herself into hospital was surplus to their requirements.

 

[clipartfan92]

I, too, wish we got more/knew more from her time there though.

I'd love to find out what happened to her cellphone during that visit. I think the official story was she "lost it." I like to picture Boner doing donuts while leaving the tranch and the phone flying off the dash and out of the window without them realizing it until an hour later.