Eugenia Cooney - Youtube's Reigning uwu Cute, Emo ana-chan Supreme, had a child molester for a discord moderator

I mentioned this in the Bam thread, but the people who keep crying about how Eugenia's parents should not allow her to starve herself is absolutely terrifying to me. What is it with Gen Z and the constant crying that mommies/daddies should have ultimate control over their adult children's lives?
I don't think it necessarily comes from a demand that parents should control their adult children's lives, and more just that families should look out for each other. They're her parents, she's their daughter, and she's very sick.
 
So? Like it or not people are allowed to make bad choices. Just because they don't talk about it in videos doesn't really mean nothing has been said. With all the attention her physique has gotten her lately they would have had to tell people something plausible. We know she and her family have had meetings with police, counselors etc so if they were just telling people Eugenia is fine she'd have been hospitalized already because then it would be considered a danger to herself. Privacy is a thing and she doesn't owe her followers anything.

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It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people don't actually know that she's like 30 at this point, and so they assume she's in her early 20s.

That could be a contributing factor as to why people are freaking out so much. They assume she's younger than she is, and that maybe she can't understand what's happening or going on because of lack of life experience.

I'd be curious to see if people change their tune when they find out her age.
 
I don't think it necessarily comes from a demand that parents should control their adult children's lives, and more just that families should look out for each other. They're her parents, she's their daughter, and she's very sick.
I definitely don't agree with the idea that the state should infringe upon her right not to seek care but I totally agree with this. Her parents have the resources to get her help but they're choosing not to. I don't think there is some huge conspiracy where her family is locking her in a room, forcing her to stream and financially exploiting her, as has been insinuated on the Eugenia stalker subreddit... but they're guilty of neglecting their loved one.

I think Eugenia's family is secretive because they know they've failed their daughter and that her death will be ultimately ruled their fault in the court of public opinion. The only conspiracy theory from the subreddit that seems plausible is that Eugenia's mom is a total Wino and her father has completely checked out. Either way, they're too selfish and cowardly to come to terms with what they've done and they'll probably play the victim when their daughter kicks the bucket. "We didn't see this coming!", "It was the bullies in school and online who did this!".
 
I mentioned this in the Bam thread, but the people who keep crying about how Eugenia's parents should not allow her to starve herself is absolutely terrifying to me. What is it with Gen Z and the constant crying that mommies/daddies should have ultimate control over their adult children's lives?
These kids haven't ever been in a 72hr hold. You'll think she should be forcibly locked up, and given treatment, and then you experience something like that for yourself.

It's dehumanizing, and no one should experience that. It wouldn't help her, not in the long term.
 
I mentioned this in the Bam thread, but the people who keep crying about how Eugenia's parents should not allow her to starve herself is absolutely terrifying to me. What is it with Gen Z and the constant crying that mommies/daddies should have ultimate control over their adult children's lives?
Eugenia is a weird case because her mom is actively encouraging it. A reasonable parent would at the very least not film the videos. And it would’ve been valid to hit Eugenia with the “go to rehab or we’re kicking you out” ultimatum when she was 18-21.

Bam is also weird because he’s a celebrity, albeit a has-been and a lolcow. But he still has royalty money and enablers. There’s more motivation for April and Phil to go for the conservatorship. And the royalty money pays for Bam’s phone so he can keep making TikToks, while the enablers stoke his ego. If he was broke and a nobody, chances are April and Phil would only be hearing from him once or twice a year.
 
These kids haven't ever been in a 72hr hold. You'll think she should be forcibly locked up, and given treatment, and then you experience something like that for yourself.

It's dehumanizing, and no one should experience that. It wouldn't help her, not in the long term.
It hurts even in the short term because you'd never voluntarily go to treatment after that

She actually moved away from her "friends" in Cali where they have the actual 5150 law that's easier to get someone on that 72hr hold and became even more reclusive. Then her mom said she would have a heart attack and die if Eugenia wasn't home for a single day

Yes it's abusive. Yes it's controlling. Yes it's 2 personality disorders colliding. This site, and the entire world, is absolutely full of this nonsense. What is being done here that warrants getting the cops called every other week. Didn't want to go here but why aren't superfatties eating two gallons of ice cream on camera every day and have dysfunctional relationships (there's always an enabler) getting *wellness checks* every few days? This is none of law enforcement's business, do you think it should be?
 
So? Like it or not people are allowed to make bad choices. Just because they don't talk about it in videos doesn't really mean nothing has been said. With all the attention her physique has gotten her lately they would have had to tell people something plausible. We know she and her family have had meetings with police, counselors etc so if they were just telling people Eugenia is fine she'd have been hospitalized already because then it would be considered a danger to herself. Privacy is a thing and she doesn't owe her followers anything.

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None of this is at odds with what I said.
 
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I mentioned this in the Bam thread, but the people who keep crying about how Eugenia's parents should not allow her to starve herself is absolutely terrifying to me. What is it with Gen Z and the constant crying that mommies/daddies should have ultimate control over their adult children's lives?

To be fair, reddit isn't very representative of the population, there's a definite overrepresentation of failed human beings who believe their parents have a duty to let them mooch indefinitely. That being said, the trend does exist. Millennials basically extended adolescence by a decade or so, Gen Z is even worse because of the internet and "mental health awareness." It's the same bullshit as the Millennials, only with far fewer opportunities to learn social skills thanks to overreliance on phones/social media/mobile apps, and 95% more crippling "anxiety disorders" (that are actually just normal "I'm nervous because I've never done x before" feelings that never go away because they've never been forced to grow the fuck up and get over it).

Eugenia is a Millennial but it's obvious how stunted and immature she is. I'm sure the malnutrition doesn't help, but that cannot totally account for her literally having the exact same life she did as a spoiled-as-fuck 15 year old. If Eugenia was suddenly expected to fend for herself, as in be completely responsible for getting her own place, paying all the bills, doing all her own cooking/cleaning/basic home maintenance, arranging her own transportation, and all the rest of it, she would not have an easy time. She has money so that makes it far easier, but even so. Her mother may have had the best intentions by taking care of anything that Eugenia finds hard or intimidating, she might just find it hard to watch her child struggle (plenty of good parents do), but regardless of how pure her motivations are, all she's done is create a permanent dependent. Anorexia nervosa is fueled by feeling a lack of control in one's life, and Eugenia's existence (whether she understands this consciously or not) is fucking stifling. Her mother probably does all the "adulting" for Eugenia and more or less runs her life, having convinced both of them that Eugenia is far too fragile, naive, and retarded to possibly do things for herself. It's the same reason why AN is so common among young adolescents, and why they so often recover spontaneously once they move out and get a job, relationship, etc of their own.

Obviously Eugenia's social media following and whatever perverse attention she gets for her weight make her case a lot more complicated than the average AN basketcase with forced overdependence on an overbearing mother who neglected to teach them life skills. But I'm still confident enough that family dynamics are a huge enough part of this that there'd still be a solid chance Eugenia would stabilize on her own if she left to live independently and started to enforce some strict boundaries with her family.

The only way Eugenia's parents can "force" her to get help is by playing hardball and telling her that if she doesn't make satisfactory progress with treatment that she can get the fuck out of their house and figure things out on her own. It's pretty ironic that this is Eugenia's best chance at actual recovery, not because forcing her into treatment would do a lick of good, but because dedication to her disorder is the only motive strong enough to make her ever choose to leave.
 
It’s really naive to believe Eugenia has a chance of recovery. AN chemically functions like an addiction, and after a certain period of time chances that anyone is going to recover are statistically nil.

Even under the best circumstances with populations who haven’t had AN for over a decade the recovery rate is around 20%.

I think it’s weird as hell that her mom takes pictures of her skellying out at Home Depot but there’s nothing her parents can do to force her to recover.

If they kicked her out 100% she’d end up staying with some freak skeleton fetish guy from Twitch, not in treatment.
 
I think it’s weird as hell that her mom takes pictures of her skellying out at Home Depot but there’s nothing her parents can do to force her to recover.
I'd feel differently if I thought the relentless photo shoots were happening because her mum has accepted the inevitable and just wants to make Eugenia happy for however long she lives, but I don't think that's what's happening here.
 
It’s really naive to believe Eugenia has a chance of recovery. AN chemically functions like an addiction, and after a certain period of time chances that anyone is going to recover are statistically nil.

Even under the best circumstances with populations who haven’t had AN for over a decade the recovery rate is around 20%.

Just to be clear I don't for a second think recovery is at all likely, just possible, if pretty much only in theory. However, I don't think it even makes it up to the realm of "possible" unless her family kicks her out (not going to happen), or some kind of scenario where mom drops from a heart attack and dad expects her to grow TF up. Or at least this might be true if not for her internet presence, which is the factor that makes Eugenia's case unique and is difficult to even speculate how exactly it plays into what would otherwise be a bog standard rich girl anachan with creepy narc mom.

It's not even really comparable to spoiled/rich yet cloistered existence of people famous in the traditional sense, because Eugenia interacts with fans directly on stream all day while they chuck pennies at her, and the strange parasocial nature of it means she attracts oddballs, shut-ins, and fetishists with a downright creepy sense of investment or even ownership of her. Not to mention some of those people are click-thirsty "influencer" cockroaches expecting everyone to believe they farted out the ten millionth faux-concerned "get help Eugenia" video like their goal is actually anything other than cheap engagement from the same kind of mouthbreathers likely to harass her directly.

How exactly this influences Eugenia's etiology or prognosis I can't even really speculate much beyond "negatively", not that it matters. Although whenever the internet is involved...

If they kicked her out 100% she’d end up staying with some freak skeleton fetish guy from Twitch, not in treatment.

...you can count on simps and perverts not to disappoint. Upon further thought, you're probably right. What little I know about the staggering extent of online whoring in current year and associated sugar daddy shit I learnt relatively recently from following the Boogie thread of all places. Eugenia routinely does innocuous seeming stuff that is almost certainly pandering to that audience, once I noticed I couldn't unsee it. Weird trollbait skelly shit aside, no one can possibly flash their twat as many times as Eugenia has and still expect to pass off each occurrence as a legitimate accident.

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So, apparently Eugenia is staying with fucking Jeffrey star now? Something is happening. Eugenia would never stay away from her mom like this. And Jeffrey said on a live stream that Eugenia is going to be staying with him a long time. And something about a maybe conservatorship?

What’s happening my dudes.

 
So, apparently Eugenia is staying with fucking Jeffrey star now? Something is happening. Eugenia would never stay away from her mom like this. And Jeffrey said on a live stream that Eugenia is going to be staying with him a long time. And something about a maybe conservatorship?

What’s happening my dudes.

Maybe she went there to die and Jeffrey is like her guardian angel faggot.
 
So, apparently Eugenia is staying with fucking Jeffrey star now? Something is happening. Eugenia would never stay away from her mom like this. And Jeffrey said on a live stream that Eugenia is going to be staying with him a long time. And something about a maybe conservatorship?

What’s happening my dudes.

Is it confirmed that her mom isn't there?
 
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