Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

[888Flux]

@Null if you want to become a True and Honest European wire me 80% of the money in your bank account

 

[whatever I feel like]

You are USDA certified niggercattle

Your hatred of food inspection is, from the outside, embaressing.

 

[Anti Snigger]

The bees going extinct thing was one study in one town in California during one year where bees population was low and then as usual scientists all over America said bees are going extinct.
It was made up, it never happened. Bee populations are fine and there's an overabundance of honey in America.
And you can get bee hotels at Target and any hardware store like Ace, Lowe's, etc.

>how do you do, fellow non-wasps?

 

[Sumptinsfuckey]

Full and half and quarter and eighth cows don't count since it's your cow you're having butchered. You as the public buy the cow and then have it butchered. (From a legal perspective.)

There are of course slaughterhouses in Florida that are USDA inspected, so that too is perfectly legal.

Shhh dont tell Null, he still thinks there are only 4 slaughterhouses in the entire U.S. and that butchers dont exist.

 

[Lidl Drip]

lidl, we know that you're english, don't start arguing about cuisine because you will not survive that engagement

If I was british then how come I had to learn English by watching MATI and that's why I talk all retarded now?

 

[Anti Snigger]

Wait, does Josh just think that we live in the society from soylent green?

 

[WelperHelper99]

I'm sorry, bread that isn't packed with sugar or corn syrup or even worse is so vastly superior to goyslop bread that it isn't even funny. Just flour, water, salt and yeast is all you need. The only sugar you need is a tiny pinch to wake up the yeast in warm water and see if it blooms.

But can it survive a week without refrigeration? Or a thermonuclear war? Just saying man, Walmart bread loaves, twinkies, and DSP will outlive us all

 

[gildersleeve]

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Me on the hill. You will resist my word about good tasty food, but you will one day realize... I was right.

Null, if your issue is truly the average availability of food in the United States, I can agree on that. In my travels. The differences between the majority of cities is nigh indestingushable. Particularly in the west where many cities are very young. If your stating the issue is that there is no availability whatsoever for quality foods I will die on that hill. I don't believe that is your issue. Americans in rural areas have the choice to make regarding the quality of their food. Income willing, necessity or circular economy e.g I cut your wood, you give me eggs. I shear your sheep you give me meat when it's ready to cull for the winter etc. Those situations aren't common, but exist.

Rural huWites have a better outlook on that regard. Considering many have the income or necessity to keep these skills as hobbies as opposed to those of socio-economic status or otherwise. Alongside those more wealthy unironically trickling down the desire to the lower classes.
Still going to get you those photo's. Though I've decided to use film as opposed to worrying about scrubbing exif data and pixel peeping to make sure any picture I take has no reference to my local area. Though I can say the combined population of my town is 15,000.

 

[Getting Sentimental]

With how long Null has been out of the United States, I treat his opinions on American food with the same seriousness I have for Ian Miles Cheong's opinions on US politics

 

[Cats]

 

[Null]

Your hatred of food inspection is, from the outside, embaressing.

I don't care about food inspection. What I care about is that all meat in the US is sent to one of four companies, where the meat is mixed, distributed arbitrarily, and you are federally prohibited from OPTING IN to a direct-to-consumer meat system. It is wholly unamerican and feds will burn in hell.

 

[AnOminous]

Key word there INTERSTATE, which both you and Nool seem to miss. It does not apply to INTRASTATE beef. In addition to buying a half or full cow I have a local meat market which sells cuts of beef from local farms, butchered in state. In Florida.

There's also the Wholesome Meat Act of 1967, which gives the USDA jurisdiction over intrastate commerce as well, under the horrible precedent of Wickard v. Filburn. You just don't get the USDA out of your hair and it's prohibitively difficult for a small private entity to comply with a labyrinth of contradictory bullshit federal regulations, so effectively, all but a few are limited to those butchers.

I've talked to a local butcher about this, who deals with this, and says it's virtually impossible to do anything but use the few state slaughterhouses. There are larger butchers and chains of butcher shops that actually do set up their own captive slaughterhouse, but they generally aren't interested in helping out their competitors.

 

[Android raptor]

I've never seen these in the US (but things are different now, I don't remember seeing any troons in the US but apparently half the country is a tranny now)
but in Europe it's very common to see gardens with these weird hollow wood pipes for supporting solo bee and pollinator communities. They're called Insect Hotels.

They're catching on the US too. Honeybees aren't actually native to the US so solitary bees and wasps and similar are what are in danger most here.

 

[Watcher]

I haven't read the thread so rate me late if necessary but has anyone pointed out to Null that Cheddar is a British cheese not an American one? It's named after a town in England. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheddar,_Somerset

Statistically cheddar is not the most popular cheese in America it's Mozzarella. Which is because it's the primary cheese used in Pizza. It's consumed significantly more in it's country of origin.

 

[Silkie Chicken]

If you eat meat, dairy, or any pre-prepared food, you are a retard. Cook everything from scratch no matter what. Europe has much better food regulations, but I still don't trust it.

 

[Diesel]

This is some of the nicer cheeses you can get in Casper Wy.

 

[AbyssStarer]

Nullie Ran away from his country like a bitch ass Californian hosps statess instead of staying to help fix it's problems.

 

[StevieLasVegas]

Can't answer for cheese, but a convenience store and a sandwich shop make their own breads where I live. As for meats, we don't have any sustainable farms in my area, but hutterites come up here to sell their butchered goods every quarter and damn near sell everything they have. Also, my parents live in a hub for farmers, so I frequently get some local meats when I visit them.

 

[stalkerchild]

I can't make an argument on cheese, but with the meat you are wrong.
It is illegal unless your state has a "state Meat and Poultry Inspection" program. If it has one, then those override the federal USDA rules, for the most part. So yes, if you live in a shitty state, then you have to buy from a USDA approved facility.
Here is the USC Code for the state exemption to federal inspection.

Here is the state I grew up in and the rules from their MPI:

As you can see there are alot of places approved to process meat in Indiana and as the Home Slaughter shows, I can process anything I want at home for personal use or take it to the local butchers to process for me.
There were 2 or 3 local farms that were also processors so the beef they sold was what they raised on the same land they had the store. I still order from one of the farms in the state instead of buying from a grocery store Seven Sons Farm and one of the biggest attractions in the Northeast of the state is just a giant farm with tours Fair Oaks Farms (which funnily enough, got caught in some hidden camera things for cruel practices and the USDA just had to sit on the sidelines.)

So essentially in the State of Indiana, meat is processed from any farm within the state at any of the 80ish local Indiana processing plants above and sent to local deli's or markets for sale. Alot of these processors also have farms to they sell out of a front store and they are located all over the state so it is very easy to get locally grown and processed meat with zero interaction from USDA. That doesn't include the hundreds of signs along the highways saying they have grass-fed beef for sale with a phone number, we don't talk about those too loud.

As for the bread, there are Bakeries everywhere, from my home when I lived there, there were 3 pastry shops and 4 bakeries within a 30 minute drive that all made everything from scratch.

Remember that this is fucking Indiana and I lived in a town of 24k with the biggest local town around 50k. There are several surrounding towns that are easily below the 1k population and within 15 minutes of these things. Of course that is all with a car, because the US is fucking gigantic.

Here is an old pic of a local shop from like 8 years ago. Also of note, there was a local Russian Deli and Serbian Meat processor near me so we also had alot of amazing piroshki's and the Slava's were amazing.

 

[Anti Snigger]

Wait til somebody tells Josh about the Amish and how they make most of their money selling agricultural products direct to consumer