Debate user 'Null' if America has Cheese, Meat, and Bread.

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quaawaa said:
How much does it cost to buy American cheese in the UK? You can’t compare imported cheese prices to local cheese prices.
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The comparison was primarily to prove that we buy cheese by the block in the same was Americans do, not just that it was cheaper, obviously it would be a bit of an unfair comparison if that was my sole aim, importing from Italy costs a lot less here than it does in America. A fairer comparison would be to look at the Babybells, or something else that would be available in both places and that is likely to be made in America, like cheddar cheese.

As for your question, no idea. American cheese isn't really a thing we import. Never seen it here in my life. Maybe some artisan places would import it but I'd be surprised. The reputation of American cheese is tied to Kraft Singles, so customers would likely turn their nose up at it, regardless of quality. That combined with the headaches of importing and sheer quantity of established cheesemakers here makes me doubt many places would bother supplying it. You can get "American style" Monterey Jack cheese, either in slices or blocks, for around £2-3. ($2.50-3.70). That stuff will be made over here though and I'd be shocked if it was authentic to what you guys get.
 
Sinbad the Sailor said:
You can get "American style" Monterey Jack cheese, either in slices or blocks, for around £2-3. ($2.50-3.70). That stuff will be made over here though and I'd be shocked if it was authentic to what you guys get.
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My local grocery store has Monterey Jack made in Wisconsin for the equivalent of £6.59/kg, which is half the price of the cheese in your link (£13.25/kg). Local staples are always cheaper than imported or "specialty" foods.
 
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quaawaa said:
My local grocery store has Monterey Jack made in Wisconsin for the equivalent of £6.59/kg, which is half the price of the cheese in your link (£13.25/kg). Local staples are always cheaper than imported or "specialty" foods.
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Sure, that's true. I'm not trying to start a pissing contest over who has cheaper food. We pay less for groceries (obviously this varies somewhat where you are in Britain and varies massively depending on what state you're in) but we also make a lot less. I was just surprised at how big the difference was based on the receipts posted by people.
 
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MayoBlaze said:
In 2022, the United States exported more than 450,000 metric tons of cheese, valued at approximately $2.3 billion.

Cheddar gets that cheddah I guess.
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Also I looked into it more and so far for the year of 2023 at least America has exported more cheese than it has imported. Which means that America is a net exporter of cheese and most of the cheese Americans eat is good ol patriot cheese.

But alas, Americans still don't have cheese somehow! You can only buy it in city centers! Certainly only by the coast! And it is not made with cows milk nooooo, it is made with tranny milk and chemical runoff because that's the only thing Americans eat! Enjoy the FDA, Cheddar Child.
 
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MayoBlaze said:
America has exported more cheese than it has imported
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This could all be kraft single american cheese sent to China, Korea and Japan because they're all lactose intolerant. AND they do like "American Style" menu items and they are getting into cheese the same way they have been getting into mayonnaise and all the horror that implies. I'm waiting for Amrican Cheese Pizzas being shown on cook assembly videos from Asia on YouTube.
 
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Sinbad the Sailor said:
Also, don't you guys have to pay a sales tax on top of the price as well?
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No sales tax on groceries for me. Also you finding the actual Euro price for this cheese makes me sad. I just opened it and my wife says "that smells like unwashed ripe dick" and it looks pretty close to some smegma as well. Tastes okay, very pungeant. $10.99 for a cheese I would rate lower than sargento.

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CHARizard said:
And heres what I bought!
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So lets break this down a bit.

Old Croc, I have had this before. Its cheddar, is super sharp, its from Australia, and its delicious. Price $7.99

Ricotta Salata Cheese. Never had this but I am eager to try it out. Always looking for a good sheeps cheese that does not use any cow milk. Imported from Italy, price $7.97

Taleggio, made in Italy. No idea what this is, its been packaged twice for some reason. Price $11.99

Beechers Marco Polo pepper cheese, made in USA, looked tasty. Price $9.99

Red Wax Gouda, imported from Holland. Price $8.49

Alouette Goat Cheese crumbles, another pure goats milk cheese, made in USA, price $6.49

Babybel plant based white cheddar. I can almost guarentee this tastes bad. Made in a Jewish laboratory, price your soul and $7.49
For context, I always pick up any new vegan cheeses I see. We have a severe dairy allergy in the family so I am always looking at the alternatives.
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Wanted to do a bit of a follow to this since I have now had a chance to sample most of these.

Old Croc, sharp as hell, the best cheddar undisputed. Australians know what they are doing.

Ricotta Saleta, very very salty. It says ricotta but its nothing like the slop you buyin a tub. Hard.

Taleggio, like I stated above it smells rank. Its okay, but not excited about finishing it. Eating with some salami helped. Very soft and spreadable, I am thinking of trying to make a grilled cheese with it and some kraft slices lol.

Beechers, just cheddar with some cracked black pepper. Very average, you get a tiny wedge of it and it costs a lot. Do not buy, you would be better off with cracker barrel cheddar.

Gouda, havnt gotten a chance to try yet.

Babybel vegan, actually not terrible. The worst I can say is that it was bland. You could easily be fooled into thinking its just some processed cheese.
 
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Null said:
I'm sure if you look very, very hard, arrange special direct business relations using state laws to bypass federal law, and pay substantially more - you can achieve a level of QoL similar to what Hans Fagmann in Bavaria gets from Lidl with federal food coupons.
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In my rural area EBT (food stamps) counts for double at the farmer's market, you can exchange $50 of EBT for $100 worth of purchasing tickets at the entrance.
 
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People in my home state wear fake blocks of cheese on their head to show support for their football team. Cows probably outnumber people here. Fresh bread isn't hard to come by whatsoever.
 
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MayoBlaze said:
In 2022, the United States exported more than 450,000 metric tons of cheese, valued at approximately $2.3 billion.

Cheddar gets that cheddah I guess.
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America is the sixth largest exporter of cheese in the world. I'd imagine a big chunk of that is exactly the kind of goyslop cheese condemned in this thread, but we also have award-winning cheeses from Wisconsin and New York that win awards, sometimes even beating out the French. So we definitely have at least some products on the radar of cheese connoiseurs worldwide.

My personal opinion is English cheese is criminally underrated.
Hüftpriester said:
I don't understand why people buy and eat cold blocks of cheese. I'll have cheese if it's a part of a meal but never on its own.
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So far as I know most people don't do that. It's kind of weird. Maybe as a snack but not whole blocks of cheese (other than lolcow Philip Haskins-Delici who is a gross fat troon). It's always with at least bread and charcuterie and wine, or as a side dish for an actual meal.

On the occasions I do eat cheese more or less by itself, basically on crackers, it's not hard cheese in blocks, but that kind of crap like soft spreadable cheddar with port wine or covered in slivered almonds, or neufchatel, or goat cheese. That's more late night degeneracy than dining though.
CHARizard said:
Taleggio, like I stated above it smells rank. Its okay, but not excited about finishing it. Eating with some salami helped. Very soft and spreadable, I am thinking of trying to make a grilled cheese with it and some kraft slices lol.
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My favorite rank cheese is Limburger. Smells vile, but tastes sweet. On dark rye or pumpernickel with fresh sliced onions, it's divine. It's delicious enough I even like the smell now because it signals what's to come. And it objectively smells like concentrated essence of locker room.
 
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CHARizard said:
Beechers, just cheddar with some cracked black pepper. Very average, you get a tiny wedge of it and it costs a lot. Do not buy, you would be better off with cracker barrel cheddar.
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Beecher’s is a cheese shop in Seattle’s Pike Place Market whose claim-to-fame is letting you watch them work. You’re paying a premium for some hipster to make your cheese instead of a good ole’ country boy. Not worth buying unless you’re a tourist visiting Seattle.
 
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quaawaa said:
Beecher’s is a cheese shop in Seattle’s Pike Place Market whose claim-to-fame is letting you watch them work. You’re paying a premium for some hipster to make your cheese instead of a good ole’ country boy. Not worth buying unless you’re a tourist visiting Seattle.
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If I were going to buy something at Pike Place it would be fish, not cheese. Pretty much everything there is top price, but only the seafood is top notch enough to justify it. Although it's been 30 years or so since I've been there so maybe that has gone to shit too.
 
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