Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

snov said:
So if it strikes a bird it’ll just disintegrate instead? It’s amazing you can recruit anyone brave enough to fly such a death trap.
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That also depends on a lot of factors like air speed, where the impact is, etc. Carbon fiber doesn't really shatter either. It usually cracks or delaminates, which is where the vertical layers start to separate and the material stops being rigid. Most of the bird strikes I've seen caused the bird to disintegrate instead of the aircraft, but I know that can change if they hit the windscreen or get sucked into the engine, which I never saw in person.
 
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Feline Supremacist said:
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Zaluzhny's assistant Gennadiy Chastiakov has been killed by a grenade disguised as a gift at his home in Kiev. His 13-year-old son was seriously wounded. Chastiakov came home with presents received on his birthday, when opening one of the presents it exploded a la Fomin (a reference to the Tatarsky assaination). The gift bag contained bottles of liquor and grenade-shaped shot glasses. According to his wife, the deadly gift was received from senior assistant of the AFU deputy commander-in-chief Timchenko. Link​

Nice syringe there bro; he must have liked mainlining his coke, avoiding that post cocaine drip.
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So, Zelensky-Zalushny feud is real and heating up? Is that what we think is going on here? The Ukranians have been pretty gung-ho about assassinations.
 
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ForTheHoard said:
get sucked into the engine, which I never saw in person.
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Happened down the street from me, literally.
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Overly Serious said:
So, Zelensky-Zalushny feud is real and heating up? Is that what we think is going on here? The Ukranians have been pretty gung-ho about assassinations.
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Other than making sure Gennadiy was blown up not sure what to think tbh.
 
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kuuu said:
There is always an option of drunken slavs playing with grenades.
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Alot of the home team media seems to be going with something close to that story. These senior officers apparently keep lots of live grenades around the home and office for fun.

The 13 year old son of this great military leader apparently was inexperienced in the ways of hohol birthdays. Dad let him take the grenade out of the gift. One or the other of them then accidentally pulled the pin on the birthday gift killing the father and seriously injuring the son.
 
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Strix454 said:
Alot of the home team media seems to be going with something close to that story. These senior officers apparently keep lots of live grenades around the home and office for fun.

The 13 year old son of this great military leader apparently was inexperienced in the ways of hohol birthdays. Dad let him take the grenade out of the gift. One or the other of them then accidentally pulled the pin on the birthday gift killing the father and seriously injuring the son.
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I don't know what the military version of OSHA would be but I really doubt they were adhering to proper weapons handling conduct.
 
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Feline Supremacist said:
Happened down the street from me, literally.
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Other than making sure Gennadiy was blown up not sure what to think tbh.
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Bird strikes happen.
When they get in the engine they do damage about 20% of the time.
Its rare they take out all engines at once. But it has happened before.
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If someone is used to working on aircraft on a carrier or in the ME then I imagine bird strikes are really rare. But they got plenty of birds in Russia and Eastern Europe.
 
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ForTheHoard said:
Sullenberger wrote a book about the event and it bored the shit out of me.
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Birds have been getting sucked into jet engines since day one.
Jump said:
Bird strikes happen.
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We were just discussing this; the Port Authority spends a good deal of time and money culling Canadian geese in the Tri State because this happens more often than they will admit, and they even hire a company with specially trained Border Collies to chase them off runways.
Strix454 said:
Alot of the home team media seems to be going with something close to that story. These senior officers apparently keep lots of live grenades around the home and office for fun.

The 13 year old son of this great military leader apparently was inexperienced in the ways of hohol birthdays. Dad let him take the grenade out of the gift. One or the other of them then accidentally pulled the pin on the birthday gift killing the father and seriously injuring the son.
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That's the Ukrainian police version, Zaluzhny himself said it was inside one of the gifts, hence the reference to Fomin's St. Petersburg's SBU assassination, which happened in the same way (implying this too is a SBU hit).

While we are discussing hohols even a 13 year old knows what detonating a grenade does, and you need quite a bit of force to yank a pin from a grenade so I seriously doubt don't believe the boy did it, or that this long time active duty officer in the AFU decided to yank it out in front of his son.
 
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MrJokerRager said:
So why are they not in Ukraine?
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If they are fighting in Sudan, the troops fighting are likely part of the Ukrainian Special Operations Force which is sort of a private CIA-trained army inside Ukraine. Its made up of maybe 1500 men and equipped to a very lavish western standard. And if they are actually in Sudan, its likely that they are there doing the bidding of Washington.
 
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