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I don't think he had rights to The Incredibles for a long time. Lasseter never had the rights to Toy Story, otherwise he would've taken it with him when he got kicked out, after all. There's like a clause in the Disney/Pixar contract that you forfeit everything you create to the Mouse while working for him.
Though if you're really careful with the contracts sometimes you get to have fun.

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Also it is a statement on how shit Google is as a search engine that I put in James Woods Hades Contract for amusement and the third result is a Reset Era thread screaming about him. Sure Google, that's relevant.
 
ADC pilot was meh. I don't see the appeal to it. The only thing people talk about is wanting to coom all over the characters and it's clear as day that the creator designed them to be talked about in a lewd fashion. It all seems manufactured completely for that purpose. And the creator even pretending that these weren't going to be the expected results and also that it'd get involved in cringe videos is silly.
 
He had Momma's permission to rape the gay out of Pearl, unlike Tracer.
Pearl wasn't the gay one though that was garnet revealed to be a fusion of two gay space rocks.


Actually by sugars logic it's not "gay" because while the gems appear female they really have no gender at all and technically capable of "loving anyone" fucking gag me with a spoon that is both literally and figuratively the gayest thing I've heard in western animation.
 
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He was also supposedly (massive stress on supposedly here) EZPZ's source for the video he made. Not sure if I believe that, but he's still a nutter regardless.
With how much he seems to Alog his former coworkers (who also have skeletons in their closets) and acts like a degenerate coomer himself, it makes a lot of sense especially with some of the claims in that video.
 
With how much he seems to Alog his former coworkers (who also have skeletons in their closets) and acts like a degenerate coomer himself, it makes a lot of sense especially with some of the claims in that video.
It all just seems a bit much for a guy who worked on, what, a single episode? For a show that ran six years? It's the ugly, obsessive side of hating something that you could easily just call shit and move on.
 
Didn’t this guy draw self insert art of himself dating one of the lesbian gems?

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a lot of the crew in the show were weird as hell. i remember back in /sug/ days we spoke about how much of a complete weirdo Lauren Zuke was and how she tarnished Peridot as a character. She was a fan hire and it led to her pretty much getting kicked out
 
It all just seems a bit much for a guy who worked on, what, a single episode? For a show that ran six years? It's the ugly, obsessive side of hating something that you could easily just call shit and move on.
Well A-Logs tend to be excessive in their hatred of things and could make up the dumbest shit so they can feel morally superior.
 
a lot of the crew in the show were weird as hell. i remember back in /sug/ days we spoke about how much of a complete weirdo Lauren Zuke was and how she tarnished Peridot as a character. She was a fan hire and it led to her pretty much getting kicked out
Zuke's obsession with her lesbian coffee shop AU undermined her few decent contributions to the show (including Stuck Together, a later episode that she solo boarded and wrote) and led to that bizarre "secret blog" that blasted Sugar and other show contributors that I'm not sure was ever debunked. Thankfully, after she left the other writers tard wrangled Peridot for the most part. I had/have no problem with the gremlin being over the top when the scene calls for it, but having that all the time is just a straight parody of Zim and I know Sugar respects Jhonen Vasquez too much to let that stand.
 
Didn’t this guy draw self insert art of himself dating one of the lesbian gems?

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It would be way worse if it was some creepy transbian shit. But these drawings of a man who is comfortable with being a man are like a breath of fresh air. It's weird but not that weird and his characters aren't tumblr garbage.
 
Pearl wasn't the gay one though that was garnet revealed to be a fusion of two gay space rocks.


Actually by sugars logic it's not "gay" because while the gems appear female they really have no gender at all and technically capable of "loving anyone" fucking gag me with a spoon that is both literally and figuratively the gayest thing I've heard in western animation.
that's the thing i hate the most about SU, how they constantly said "we did X!" just to backtrack completely seconds after. "fusions are sex, actually no they are "relationships"" "we had pearl rape garnet by deceit, actually it wasn't rape because it isn't sex" "we had 2 dykes kiss on screen, actually they aren't dykes because they are genderless despite looking and sounding like woman" I know that they did that because SU came out before it was common for cartoons to shove pride flags everywhere but they should of have the balls to stand by what they said or not say anything in the first place.
 
that's the thing i hate the most about SU, how they constantly said "we did X!" just to backtrack completely seconds after. "fusions are sex, actually no they are "relationships"" "we had pearl rape garnet by deceit, actually it wasn't rape because it isn't sex" "we had 2 dykes kiss on screen, actually they aren't dykes because they are genderless despite looking and sounding like woman" I know that they did that because SU came out before it was common for cartoons to shove pride flags everywhere but they should of have the balls to stand by what they said or not say anything in the first place.
Not to open this can of worms, but they never said fusion is sex. Not in-universe, not in interviews. That was mostly a misconception because of the dances earlier on in the show, which to be honest is like saying dancing in the club is literally raw dogging. Lily Orchard was one of the people responsible for pushing the "Pearl raped Garnet" thing too, which is funny if you've even taken as much as a cursory glance at their thread here. I'll let you discover the horror for yourself.

Don't get me wrong, the show has more than its share of issues (from pacing to character proportions fluctuating depending on the boarder and many more) but it's harder to criticize it for what it's actually done wrong when you include made up problems. It just gives the more zealous fans licence to brush you off.
 
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Not to open this can of worms, but they never said fusion is sex. Not in-universe, not in interviews. That was mostly a misconception because of the dances earlier on in the show, which to be honest is like saying dancing in the club is literally raw dogging.
Club dancing is not helping your case, man. If it wasn't for some of those early poses, no one who wasn't a coomer would've gone "Oh yeah, this is just a visual metaphor for SEX!" Like salsa dancing is pretty much just a visual euphemism for sex because of the moves, grinding is literally "Hey babe, let's bone", and then there's whatever the fuck this is:
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Where Pearl tried to shield Steven's eyes from, by the way.

Fusion dancing could've just been an innocuous shout-out to the Fusion Dance of Dragon Ball Z but for magical girls (when magical girl transformations have played out like dancing for ages anyway), but Rebecca knew full well what she was doing here.



Anyway have this silly .gif.
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Did you watch the show? Pearl was the gayest one.

The woman spent the entire series pinning over Steven’s mom and then a girl that looked like Steven’s mom.
Actually no,this is news to me.
Club dancing is not helping your case, man. If it wasn't for some of those early poses, no one who wasn't a coomer would've gone "Oh yeah, this is just a visual metaphor for SEX!" Like salsa dancing is pretty much just a visual euphemism for sex because of the moves, grinding is literally "Hey babe, let's bone", and then there's whatever the fuck this is:
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Where Pearl tried to shield Steven's eyes from, by the way.

"Totally not sexual you are all just overthinking things that aren't there."

Says sugar and co as the write and script scenes like this.
 
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Club dancing is not helping your case, man. If it wasn't for some of those early poses, no one who wasn't a coomer would've gone "Oh yeah, this is just a visual metaphor for SEX!" Like salsa dancing is pretty much just a visual euphemism for sex because of the moves, grinding is literally "Hey babe, let's bone", and then there's whatever the fuck this is:
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Where Pearl tried to shield Steven's eyes from, by the way.

Fusion dancing could've just been an innocuous shout-out to the Fusion Dance of Dragon Ball Z but for magical girls (when magical girl transformations have played out like dancing for ages anyway), but Rebecca knew full well what she was doing here.

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Anyway have this silly .gif.
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Fair enough, poor wording on my part. Still, regardless of suggestiveness (which I had actually forgotten was so hilariously over the top), gems only reproduce through boning planets, not each other.

...y'know, when you write this shit out it really does show how silly cartoons can be at times.
 
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