Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[UERISIMILITUDO]

He's falling into the classic trap of the old "everybody's doing it wrong so I will reinvent the wheel and everybody will switch to it suddenly" mentality.

From what I see, he's not doing that. He slavishly follows UNIX, which is why every planned platform is either UNIX or has a UNIX compatibility layer. It sucks because it has absolutely no interesting qualities.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

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This is the official logo of the Sudo project. Sudo make me a sandwich is real!
No clue how I missed it before.

His name should be "Sammich"

 

[Pill Cosby]

I'm pretty sure the AppleSoft duopoly are actually funding the destruction of open source by propping up these mentally ill lunatics who produce nothing of value and destroy the community.

it’s all about jannies. Troons will jannie for free.

 

[Creative Username]

From what I see, he's not doing that. He slavishly follows UNIX, which is why every planned platform is either UNIX or has a UNIX compatibility layer. It sucks because it has absolutely no interesting qualities.

He's reinventing exactly the same wheel, which won't fly in a Unix world because C exists. He should be designing the language for more system-agnostic programming (and improving it sufficiently over C) if he wants it to be future-proof. There's nothing really wrong with making your language mainly compatible with Unix concepts, because Unix is everywhere anyway, everybody has a compatibility layer for it, and (almost) everybody is willing to target it. It just needs to support other systems if the need arises, because the need will arise within 100 years.

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You seem like you could take some notes from him, with your weird Unix hate-boner. What even is your ideal system? I saw some articles you posted about some stateless ideal of computing, but that doesn't even exist yet. Complaining about Unix won't stop UNIX WORLD DOMINATION(TM), so if you want that ideal, you better open your favorite editor and get cracking. I don't completely love Unix either, it's just to think that you can make it go away anytime soon.

I like to think of it this way: You can invent tank treads instead of wheels, but people won't use them unless they can bolt them onto their Unix vehicles. There are some good things about computer environments with absolutely no interesting qualities, such as the fact I can run 99% of existing software on them without needing a VM.

tl;dr: unix sticks to everything like napalm for a reason

 

[306h4Ge5eJUJ]

Techrights (known for being deplatformed by tranny Ariadne Conill) is claiming its family members are being harassed, especially the women.

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source (a)

They claim it's some people they name as "free software-hostile militants." (a)

This Techrights guy seems like a bit of a lolcow himself. This list of defamatory articles (a) seems like someone is massively taking the piss out of him more than anything:

Roy Schestowitz got me pregnant and abandoned us
Neo-nazi group Combat 18 learned OPSEC from Roy Schestowitz
A piece of history: How Roy Schestowitz got a hold of Adolf Hitler's cutlery
How Roy Schestowitz and I infiltrated a government office and stole an e-mail database and laptop
A grocery store incident involving Roy Schestowitz that involved a physical altercation
Roy Schestowitz and his love for the Unabomber
The similarities of two high tech dads: Roy Schestowitz and Steve Jobs
The child custody and child maintenance battle with the belligerent Roy Schestowitz
Roy Schestowitz's obsession for paying with coins extended to strip clubs

 

[Coolio55]

Drew is keeping his ambitions for Hare modest: https://harelang.org/blog/2023-11-08-100-year-language/, https://archive.is/896LH

Any guesses on what it's going to be?
a) a language with bugger all standard library (like C)
b) a language where nothing broken can ever be removed, so it has shitloads of cruft (like C++)
c) a language where its creator is so divinely inspired, he manages to create something uniquely free of any kind of fault or failing for decades and decades

"Baby Duck Syndrome - The Language"
Also you have to put some boilerplate keyword on each variable or else it'll intentionally crash on null. Genius.

And yet no TempleOS smdh.

Why would you want something so niggerlicious on an OS that already has HolyC?
Other operating systems need to get on board with the 1000 year language.

 

[Another Char Clone]

Hare does make a couple of smart choices, however. Programming-language-specific package managers are the scourge of the earth, and simple languages are less painful to work with in general.

Eugh, Python has so much this up its ass, there was pip (in venv) and then now conda (to download and install specific python interpreter versions). Python developers seem to have no idea how to do interface stability, so it forces you to pin version "my thing only works on specific library or else it breaks).

 

[AltisticRight]

Only worthless men specifically go after people's female relatives and friends.

Men like Ethan Ralph and Elliot William Fong likes to harass women.

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Only worthless men specifically go after people's female relatives and friends.

Men like Ethan Ralph and Elliot William Fong likes to harass women.

It's just a girl-talk, nothing wrong with a little girl-talk...

 

[UERISIMILITUDO]

He should be designing the language for more system-agnostic programming (and improving it sufficiently over C) if he wants it to be future-proof.

Yes, but Ada and even Rust already exist.

There's nothing really wrong with making your language mainly compatible with Unix concepts, because Unix is everywhere anyway, everybody has a compatibility layer for it, and (almost) everybody is willing to target it.

From what I recall of Hare, he so intimately ties his language's semantics to UNIX, using UNIX primitives directly, that targeting MicroSoft Windows is basically out of the question. Primitives such as fork suck.

It just needs to support other systems if the need arises, because the need will arise within 100 years.

Yes, and the easiest way to have a 100 year language is to allow for metaprogramming, so that the users themselves may address most or all of these needs.

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You seem like you could take some notes from him, with your weird Unix hate-boner.

I thought most people here hated dressed-up eunuchs.

What even is your ideal system?

An operating system is unnecessary. Smalltalk systems didn't have an operating system.

Complaining about Unix won't stop UNIX WORLD DOMINATION(TM), so if you want that ideal, you better open your favorite editor and get cracking.

Too many UNIX cultists want to pretend that alternations from the status quo can't exist. Awareness of the problem is one of the first steps. Programming in text editors disgusts me, so most of my work so far has involved getting rid of that first.

I don't completely love Unix either, it's just to think that you can make it go away anytime soon.

I don't want to die in a world run by eunuchs.

I like to think of it this way: You can invent tank treads instead of wheels, but people won't use them unless they can bolt them onto their Unix vehicles.

I don't give a damn what other people use. I program for myself first and foremost

There are some good things about computer environments with absolutely no interesting qualities, such as the fact I can run 99% of existing software on them without needing a VM.

The very existence of computer viruses is caused by these terrible systems. We can have a world without germs.

tl;dr: unix sticks to everything like napalm for a reason

UNIX sticks to everything like eunuchs stick to women's bathrooms.

 

[Artificial Stupidity]

Techrights (known for being deplatformed by tranny Ariadne Conill) is claiming its family members are being harassed, especially the women.

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They claim it's some people they name as "free software-hostile militants." (a)

Well what a weird cross over how techrights is being harassed by possible trannies and how there are accusations of sex abuse committed by big tech industry people

https://web.archive.org/web/20231110131111/https://techrights.org/o/2021/12/20/github-violence-against-women/

Even weirder there's a connection to Liz fong-jones

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/liz-fong-jones-elliot-william-fong-lizthegrey.128419/post-17139016

 

[Average K-On Fan]

Techrights (known for being deplatformed by tranny Ariadne Conill) is claiming its family members are being harassed, especially the women.

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They claim it's some people they name as "free software-hostile militants." (a)

Honestly I am not surprised if this is a thing. Leftists especially on the internet literally try to constantly shut down anything they don't like at this point, a hive minded goons who pretend to be some sort of an internet savior.

To give you my personal experience, there was an imageboard on i2p which was very small in terms of its userbase but was usually active. Unfortunately someone successfully performed spamming attacks on all boards (which also happened earlier on but this time it was much more severe as the site owner never really had any safety mechanisms against the attacks) and eventually the site got shut down (probably the owner got tired from all of this) and since then that site has been offline.
Interestingly, after digging around those spammed boards while the website was still up, I noticed a domain name being spammed among other random words. Though I won't get into this a lot but long story short, that domain name was owned by some edgelord "marxist" (though I hadn't fully confirmed it) who hosted services like fediverse on that domain and even had his own dedicated servers for hosting those services.

After seeing these similar situations arising again and again, it seems obvious that these people are an active threat to internet as a whole (even on darkweb) and yet it is so tiresome that they never receive consequences for their actions.

 

[Creative Username]

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Can't get away from attention whores no matter what kind of anonymizing router you use.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

It's a shame the Rust thread is dormant, because every single member of the community is absolutely fucking insane.

Like cargo? Don't like the fact it doesn't validate your fetishes? Luckily Gankra is here for you: https://github.com/Gankra/cargo-mommy, https://archive.is/S04Ti

Spoiler

test result: FAILED. 0 passed; 1 failed; 0 ignored; 0 measured; 0 filtered out; finished in 0.00s

error: test failed, to rerun pass `--bin cargo-mommy`

mommy is starting to wonder if you should just give up and become her breeding stock~ 💗

Gankra is Alexis "Aria" Beingessner, best known for his book "Rust is absolutely shit when it comes to linked lists, but we're going to pretend like it's intentional". Funnily enough, a Person of Gender, though I'm sure you've guessed that already.

 

[Ouro Boros]

You know, I don't get why every programmer of "value" is really a trans person nowadays. The abundance of them is a little suspicious for one, but the fact they've been using their position of "oppressed minority given protection for their actions" to the fullest for power and authority, rather than just as a stupid harmless quirk, is definitely what makes me realize something is afoot here, and it definitely has something to do with modern concepts like "inclusivity"/power to those but the norm.

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

Like cargo? Don't like the fact it doesn't validate your fetishes? Luckily Gankra is here for you: https://github.com/Gankra/cargo-mommy, https://archive.is/S04Ti

mommy is starting to wonder if you should just give up and become her breeding stock~

I found cargo-mommy when looking at doing supply chain and static scanning and sent it to a new Rust dev. He switched to golang not long after. I had no idea the messages were that bad.

You know, I don't get why every programmer of "value" is really a trans person nowadays. The abundance of them is a little suspicious for one, but the fact they've been using their position of "oppressed minority given protection for their actions" to the fullest for power and authority, rather than just as a stupid harmless quirk, is definitely what makes me realize something is afoot here, and it definitely has something to do with modern concepts like "inclusivity"/power to those but the norm.

Autism can be part of it. Autistic people fixate on things and can be nudged into wanting to become transgender in response to chronic social issues. A lot of talented programmers are under-socialized where it matters and gravitate toward online and university safe spaces with other people like them. They also have masculinity issues given they typically don't get positive attention from the opposite sex and many aren't large and muscular. I think porn can influence it as well but I don't think that's a cause.
There are also AGP hedonists but I'm not sure how common they are. You also have people like Elliot Fong who are narcissists and have no scruples abusing the "diversity" rhetoric and bullying the retarded HR women into getting what he wants.

 

[Ouro Boros]

Autism can be part of it. Autistic people fixate on things and can be nudged into wanting to become transgender in response to chronic social issues. A lot of talented programmers are under-socialized where it matters and gravitate toward online and university safe spaces with other people like them. They also have masculinity issues given they typically don't get positive attention from the opposite sex and many aren't large and muscular. I think porn can influence it as well but I don't think that's a cause.
There are also AGP hedonists but I'm not sure how common they are. You also have people like Elliot Fong who are narcissists and have no scruples abusing the "diversity" rhetoric and bullying the retarded HR women into getting what he wants.

I fit a lot of those criteria funnily enough, though I was very fortunate that I never really even discovered (or care) about trans people until relatively recently, nor my parents either, so I have been spared a dark...dark fate.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

You know, I don't get why every programmer of "value" is really a trans person nowadays.

I don't think that's actually the case.

Remember that being a programmer is an incredibly introverted job, probably one of the most there is. The vast majority are just quietly getting on with the job, but it's only ever the drama queens you hear about.
Rust is a really obscure language by the numbers, but the reason you hear about it all the time is because nearly everybody involved has been driven mad by oestrogen.

 

[Jarry Seinfelt]

It's a shame the Rust thread is dormant, because every single member of the community is absolutely fucking insane.

Like cargo? Don't like the fact it doesn't validate your fetishes? Luckily Gankra is here for you: https://github.com/Gankra/cargo-mommy, https://archive.is/S04Ti

Spoiler

test result: FAILED. 0 passed; 1 failed; 0 ignored; 0 measured; 0 filtered out; finished in 0.00s

error: test failed, to rerun pass `--bin cargo-mommy`

mommy is starting to wonder if you should just give up and become her breeding stock~ 💗

Gankra is Alexis "Aria" Beingessner, best known for his book "Rust is absolutely shit when it comes to linked lists, but we're going to pretend like it's intentional". Funnily enough, a Person of Gender, though I'm sure you've guessed that already.

This stuff unironically makes me MATI. Some of us are just spergy men and women who like computers or math or whatever. Just go jack off or get cornholed by someone in a $3000 dragon outfit on your own time you fucking freak.

I found cargo-mommy when looking at doing supply chain and static scanning and sent it to a new Rust dev. He switched to golang not long after. I had no idea the messages were that bad.

I've been growing to appreciate Go a little more lately and this is only gonna help with that.

I don't think that's actually the case.

Remember that being a programmer is an incredibly introverted job, probably one of the most there is. The vast majority are just quietly getting on with the job, but it's only ever the drama queens you hear about.
Rust is a really obscure language by the numbers, but the reason you hear about it all the time is because nearly everybody involved has been driven mad by oestrogen.

Agree. From what I've seen, the average programmer is a slightly, but not offputtingly, dorky guy in his mid thirties. Usually married or in a committed long term relationship, too. When you look at the industry as a whole (so, widening it out to related jobs like product etc.) it gets a little more balanced genderwise. I've only met like, two trannies in tech and they were basically Mister Rogers compared to anyone featured in this thread.

TBF, I've never worked in the Bay Area and I don't work in web development (lower barrier to entry and higher turnover I think), so that may account for it. But I don't think it accounts for that much. If you're not in a company that's gone hardcore on DEI, troons and other genderspecials who create more drama than value won't last long. At one of my old jobs, one of my coworkers had a big argument with our boss about something and went to me (as a veteran of the team/company) and then HR to complain about it. She immediately put "she/they" in her email signature after that too. Didn't help, though, because she was out a month after that. This wasn't a based company or anything like that, she was just a shit-stirrer and was basically asked to leave because of that. Remember, LFJ was basically pushed out of Google for being obnoxious and disruptive.

I have a suspicion that most troons employed in tech are more like, IT service desk types. Just because it's paid less, so less competition, and what I've seen from posts on the farms. But I'm an ignorant fucking retard on most things outside my field so I don't know for sure.

 

[Average K-On Fan]

You know, I don't get why every programmer of "value" is really a trans person nowadays. The abundance of them is a little suspicious for one, but the fact they've been using their position of "oppressed minority given protection for their actions" to the fullest for power and authority, rather than just as a stupid harmless quirk, is definitely what makes me realize something is afoot here, and it definitely has something to do with modern concepts like "inclusivity"/power to those but the norm.

Not all programmer are like this, especially not those who are working professionally compared to the ones on FOSS projects. The reasoning of their "infestation" especially on open source is rather complex with multiple circumstances but autism is definitely one of the reasons. There are some interesting studies to suggest that autistic people are more likely to get sucked into being a troon, and these studies were done in late 20th century, so decades old at this point.

The unfortunate reality is FOSS communities existed due to heavily autistic people and without them, these communites wouldn't even exist. Therefore their downfall was inevitable since they were always their own worst enemy.
The "utopian" idea of Richard Stallman of a future being reliant on libre software and having communities to maintain these in retrospect, had an unavoidable disastrous fate from the start. Especially on the 80's, software development were mostly done by white, 130+ IQ programmers with aspergers from the upper middle class, living and breathing the totalizing liberal environment of higher academia from the 60s and 70s, inheriting all of its ridiculous garbage. When the FOSS communities eventually started growing, it obviously attracted the similar like minded people with similar weaponized autism and degenerated morals. Fast forward to few decades, coupled with out of control progressivism in these past few decades and the majority of people in these communities are autistic retards of such high degree, that the downfall of morality and increase in degeneracy started happening in spectacular fashion especially since the past decade.