Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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The assumption when you sign a waiver is that you are of sound mind, and know what you are getting into (or should be able to understand the consequences).

Most of the detranstioners that have sued have brought up their extensive psychiatric history. We're not talking "oh, I had a depressive episode after grandma died" kind of thing. They told their providers about previous abuse histories, psychotic episodes, stays at psych wards, and other serious problems. The butchers still went ahead, sometimes in defiance of what their own psych departments said.

Sure, they might have signed the waivers, but if they can prove that they had these diagnoses.....AND the butchers were fully aware of these conditions (or should have been aware because the documentation was in their files), well......I'd hate to be those butchers' defense attorneys. It could be as valid in the eyes of a judge as a five year old signing away his or her rights, which means....not at all, time to cut that check and make sure they sign a non-disclosure agreement.
 
It could be as valid in the eyes of a judge as a five year old signing away his or her rights,
Yes. but remember, Five years old's ARE totes adults m'kay, and CAN tooootaaalllly consent to having their lives ruined, ah, I mean saved, by these bastards.
How heckin' agist are you to say other wise?
This just made me so sad cause I've no doubt the troons and their handmaidens think like this... :sigh:
 
It bears repeating that this thread is likely the single most important repository of Trans Truth online, alongside the Pooner thread.
At one point I went through and tried to archive the thread,
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A strange thing has happened. After watching many Lee Francis videos over the years and recently lots of discussion on here. initial feeling was fear, something very wrong with him and I get the sense that he is a true misogynist. He has an anger so close to the surface etc etc my assumption is we all know and feel all this. However - I’ve started to like him. I noticed it this evening. He’s extremely and frighteningly frank but somehow the honesty is incredible. Anyone think he might totally break and de-trans and go on a campaign against it all ?
 
A strange thing has happened. After watching many Lee Francis videos over the years and recently lots of discussion on here. initial feeling was fear, something very wrong with him and I get the sense that he is a true misogynist. He has an anger so close to the surface etc etc my assumption is we all know and feel all this. However - I’ve started to like him. I noticed it this evening. He’s extremely and frighteningly frank but somehow the honesty is incredible. Anyone think he might totally break and de-trans and go on a campaign against it all ?
Sociopaths are great mimics. They can fake being sensitive and insightful very convincingly. Because they're so detached, oddly enough. And dedicated to coming off normal. I haven't watched enough of Lee's vids to know for sure if he's a sociopath not. But it wouldn't surprise me. Most troons are. At any rate, it's a sure bet that Lee watches his vids over and over to critique and perfect his online persona.

“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.” (Nietzsche)

Gazing into the abyss changes your consciousness. For alotta troons, it inspires them to shed their old lives and drop right down into it. To roll around and cover themselves in the liberating filth. For people like us, it can make us sympathetic or simply more acclimated to their lunacy.
 
I wish that punishment will find everyone who promotes trans ideology.
Arise, Lord, in your anger;
rise up against the rage of my enemies.
Awake, my God; decree justice.
Let the assembled peoples gather around you,
while you sit enthroned over them on high.
Let the Lord judge the peoples.
Bring to an end the violence of the wicked
and make the righteous secure—
you, the righteous God
who probes minds and hearts.

God is a righteous judge,
a God who displays his wrath every day.
If he does not relent,
he will sharpen his sword;
he will bend and string his bow.
He has prepared his deadly weapons;
he makes ready his flaming arrows.
Whoever is pregnant with evil
conceives trouble and gives birth to disillusionment.
Whoever digs a hole and scoops it out
falls into the pit they have made.
The trouble they cause recoils on them;
their violence comes down on their own heads.

- Psalm 7

Gazing into the abyss changes your consciousness. For alotta troons, it inspires them to shed their old lives and drop right down into it. To roll around and cover themselves in the liberating filth. For people like us, it can make us sympathetic or simply more acclimated to their lunacy.
No, it's the same for us, staring too long into the abyss steadily destroys the soul, no matter who you are, just in a different way.
 
He’s extremely and frighteningly frank but somehow the honesty is incredible.
I agree. I hate Troons in principle but Lee is indeed very honest about a lot of things. He's one of the very, very few Troons that I have a tiny bit of sympathy for. Possibly the only one, in fact.
I haven't watched enough of Lee's vids to know for sure if he's a sociopath not.
He's not. He lets his anger out in YouTube videos - something a proper sociopath would never do.
 
Arise, Lord, in your anger;
rise up against the rage of my enemies.
Awake, my God; decree justice.
Let the assembled peoples gather around you,
while you sit enthroned over them on high.
Let the Lord judge the peoples.
Bring to an end the violence of the wicked
and make the righteous secure—
you, the righteous God
who probes minds and hearts.

God is a righteous judge,
a God who displays his wrath every day.
If he does not relent,
he will sharpen his sword;
he will bend and string his bow.
He has prepared his deadly weapons;
he makes ready his flaming arrows.
Whoever is pregnant with evil
conceives trouble and gives birth to disillusionment.
Whoever digs a hole and scoops it out
falls into the pit they have made.
The trouble they cause recoils on them;
their violence comes down on their own heads.

- Psalm 7


No, it's the same for us, staring too long into the abyss steadily destroys the soul, no matter who you are, just in a different way.
Does KF count as staring into the abyss?
 
A strange thing has happened. After watching many Lee Francis videos over the years and recently lots of discussion on here. initial feeling was fear, something very wrong with him and I get the sense that he is a true misogynist. He has an anger so close to the surface etc etc my assumption is we all know and feel all this. However - I’ve started to like him. I noticed it this evening. He’s extremely and frighteningly frank but somehow the honesty is incredible. Anyone think he might totally break and de-trans and go on a campaign against it all ?
I like him too. (I'm a fucking idiot who likes people though)
I think it's because I see in him a young gay man who has been utterly fucked over by this ideology. We can't free him, we can only witness it.

I hope he does go detrans, though I bet he reaches a different audience by being trans right now.
 
He's not. He lets his anger out in YouTube videos - something a proper sociopath would never do.
Maybe. He's admitted to having full object-throwing tantrums off camera. I'd say he's at least a massive narcissist who's very immature.

I don't have sympathy for him. He's learnt nothing from this and still views woman in a very misogynistic way.
 
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