2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

IDF announces an MP was killed in the terror attack at the tunnels checkpoint in Jerusalem this morning:
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Hezbollah deaths 75, 76:
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Fighting in central Gaza City:
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IDF Commando Brigade operations in Gaza:
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What's the difference in a terrorist and an enemy combatant?

I know the dictionary definition of both but it seems like the semantic propaganda that's been going on since 2001 has blurred the lines quite a bit.
 
Well, after losing his wife to cancer, and his daughter now either dead by terrorism or held hostage, he appeared on CBS where he was sensitively asked the question every grieving parent wants to answer:
"But what about the Palestinians?"
He handled that incredibly well. What the fuck is wrong with that Breakfast TV presenter?
 
Where realistically can they go, and more importantly, where can they go and still maintain some modicum control over their troops. Hamas' political wing is in Dubai right now having whiskey tastings with the Oil Sheikhs and fucking foreign tik tok whores. The military wing are the guys in the strip, and if they turn and run from the fight the movement as a whole is pretty much fucked. The hospitals "were" the place to be in the previous conflicts. Centrally located to the fighting, but impervious to Israeli attack due to meme magic.

Do you mean Doha, Qatar? I don’t think Dubai/UAE has much to do with Hamas. Most of Hamas’ political wing have been hiding out in Qatar & Turkey. Those two get away with a lot due to their strategic positioning, the first categorized by US govt as a “"Major Non-NATO Ally“ and the latter as a major NATO ally. Qatar state media Al Jazeera sure seems to run a lot of interference for Hamas & Palestinians in general, so maybe Gazan refugees should be shipped there so that the Emir & 20,000 royal ragheads in the Al Thani family can have their own Black September.
 
You know the sick shit is, the Palestinians don't want to make peace, I honestly belive it. They see the writing on the wall and just reject it. I know some of them think a single state is the solution but that's just not gonna happen. I feel like in 15 years they will go the way of the American Indian, something we talk about but largely can just ignore.
Native Americans had some noble qualities to them, which is why we used to name cool shit after them like attack helicopters and football teams. Palestinians are going to be remembered as the backstabbing sperge people that yell Durka Durka Muhammed Jihad!

 
So people in this thread, I asked early on and I ask again, what's the current vibe/tempo/feeling about this conflict where you are? Are people pro Israel/pro jew? anti arab/Palestinian? If they are sick of this shit, well what side do they lean on if they are!
To be as vague as possible, I'm surrounded by people who have an investment in foreign affairs and the like. They are very much pro-Israel and behind America's support. There's an attitude of righteous anger among them. They feel that all of the time, effort, and money spent trying to get some kind of peace and stability in that part of the world just went up in smoke, and it's all Palestine's fault. Imagine watching as a few decade's worth of work is irreparably demolished, and you can imagine why they feel that way.

On top of that, they are very, very upset with the pro-Palestine people in the government and the stink they're trying to raise. I'm hearing some people swear for the first time in my life when talking about them. Many in the pro-Palestine crowd are threatening to resign over this, and they're getting an enthusiastic "there's the door" in response. Like with everything else, they're very loud, but they're still in the minority.
 
Native Americans had some noble qualities to them, which is why we used to name cool shit after them like attack helicopters and football teams. Palestinians are going to be remembered as the backstabbing sperge people that yell Durka Durka Muhammed Jihad!

oh yeah 100% I mean more in the sense that no one cares. This isn't South Africa, where the white minority legitly made a second state INSIDE their own state and then refused to either dismantle it or carve out their own lands and make two separate legitimate states with their own majorities (one white, one black). This is one state that is recognized by the UN (and thus the world) as existing and then a "half state" that keeps rejecting ANY offer to give them legitimacy in ANY capacity. They have no state; thus, they have no sovereignty. I would not be surprised if the Gaza Strip and the West Bank get reabsorbed back into Egypt or Jordan as "semi-autonomous zones" like Chechnia or if, like the liberals say the "Palestinian lands" get bought out from under them acre by acre until they are legitimately no more than a city-state. You either have it, defend it, and claim it or lose it. The Palestinians should have done precisely what the Jews/Zionists did (create a foreign congress to hammer out the necessary government functions, raise money, create a body that can argue on their behalf) and grab the first opportunity they had to make a state.

To be as vague as possible, I'm surrounded by people who have an investment in foreign affairs and the like. They are very much pro-Israel and behind America's support. There's an attitude of righteous anger among them. They feel that all of the time, effort, and money spent trying to get some kind of peace and stability in that part of the world just went up in smoke, and it's all Palestine's fault. Imagine watching as a few decade's worth of work is irreparably demolished, and you can imagine why they feel that way.

On top of that, they are very, very upset with the pro-Palestine people in the government and the stink they're trying to raise. I'm hearing some people swear for the first time in my life when talking about them. Many in the pro-Palestine crowd are threatening to resign over this, and they're getting an enthusiastic "there's the door" in response. Like with everything else, they're very loud, but they're still in the minority.
Do you think the Likud guys will get what they want (the annexation of the West Bank/parts of Gaza) when this is done? I have a feeling people don't give a flying fuck anymore about the Palestinians and at this point want to get rid of them and focus on the shit that actually matters (combating China's belt and road with the Indian-Saudi-Israeli corridor). The Palestinians are like the Biafra victims of their own revolutionary talk.
 
Do you think the Likud guys will get what they want (the annexation of the West Bank/parts of Gaza) when this is done? I have a feeling people don't give a flying fuck anymore about the Palestinians and at this point want to get rid of them and focus on the shit that actually matters (combating China's belt and road with the Indian-Saudi-Israeli corridor). The Palestinians are like the Biafra victims of their own revolutionary talk.
Thats not really a Likud position, more a religious party position.
 
Native Americans had some noble qualities to them, which is why we used to name cool shit after them like attack helicopters and football teams. Palestinians are going to be remembered as the backstabbing sperge people that yell Durka Durka Muhammed Jihad!


Noble qualities my fucking ass. Read a bit on the Apaches & Comanche. They were absolutely ruthless.
Their war strategy was to raid & kill every living man, women & child. The few ones they didn't kill, were sold into slavery.

They are fitting names for military usage.
 
It's a pity because the current King, Abdullah II, seems pretty chill by Western standards. Guy's a big Star Trek nerd and even cameoed in an episode of Voyager:

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Abdullah_bin_al-Hussein

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lol I remember that.


Trouble in Washington, D.C.

Invoking jan 6th, the language and the admissions being made and talked about here (aggressive and violent protests, pepper spray etc) is a sure sign of where the US political world stands on this. Well at least now that it got "real" for them too.

Political elites finally getting a taste of what they helped create. But I really look forward to these manbaby and professional leftist "protesters" finding out what happens when you pull the type of shit they usually do, without the implicit support of the political elite or elite media.


IDF Home Front soldier sings "Thank you, God" with students in an Arab school:
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Context?

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Pretty epic scene in the first pic and the second has "CoD" vibes.


Photos from an Israeli radio correspondent's visit to Gaza
Turns out that the Hitler paraglider memes were on point, Gaza is really looking like Berlin 1945:
Two starving horses that were taken to a veterinary facility:
Graffiti left by IDF soldiers. The first one reads "Hila, I love you" 🤔:
Soldiers relaxing:
Soldiers praying:
Random shots of forces/flags/doggo:

Like end of the world shit. It's only in spots though. A lot of background stuff looks untouched.

Some of those places would make awesome CoD a/o BF maps.



These people coming face to face with the reality that any normal person would face for this kind of stuff, as well as the end of their LARPing, is going to be glorious. Terrorism-lite tactics don't work very well when the elites and media are not on your side.

Surely it's time to send in the police? They are blocking a main highway/road!


New poll of Palestinians throughout the West Bank and (southern) Gaza. Standout results:

- 59% of them "strongly support" the 7/10 massacre. A further 16% "support it to some extent". The percentage is much higher in the WB than in Gaza, probably because there isn't as much FAFO there (yet).

- 75% think the war will end in a Palestinian victory, and 79% think it will end with the release of all Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails. I don't know what they're on but I bet there's at least a few Kick streamers who do.

- They love Hamas (76%) and absolutely despise the UAE and Saudi Arabia (2% and 3% respectively). Even Iran only gets 32% approval, probably because they're seen as having cucked out of the fight.

Screenshots of summary. PDFs of it and complete results are attached below:
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These are the people some are wringing their hands about "radicalizing"

Also.. it sounds like the WB is feeling neglected. Wants a little Israeli "attention" too. lol


Well, after losing his wife to cancer, and his daughter now either dead by terrorism or held hostage, he appeared on CBS where he was sensitively asked the question every grieving parent wants to answer:
"But what about the Palestinians?"

And they really wonder why people don't feel bad when some journoscum gets accidentally converted into ground meat or something. (yeah, i know.. but i've lost all "give a fuck" when it comes to them over the last few years)

As for the rest... lol if these nitwits are dumb enough to fuck around and find out.. good luck. I look forward to the day that police and others take a gloves off stance to black blocks, (A)tards and other scum, and start busting heads.
 
The IDF captured Iranian-manufactured/designed Badr 3 rockets in Gaza today. They can carry a 250 kg warhead up to 160 km. They were taken to Israel for examination:
So the Iranians can smuggle in a giant missile that can travel 99 miles (washington dc to richmond va), but they can't smuggle in drones, atgms, landmines, and other assorted goodies that would turn Gaza city into a death trap? Or send advisors to train Hamas fighters in urban warfare or warfare in general?

According to Wikipedia the IDF has lost 52 soldiers in three weeks of ground operations in Gaza. About 2.4 soldiers a day. For comparison, the US lost 54 soldiers in 9 days during the second battle of Fallujah. About 6 soldiers a day. And what makes these numbers worse is that Hamas has had since 2014 to prepare for this. The jihadists in Fallujah had six months and 11 days.
 
So the Iranians can smuggle in a giant missile that can travel 99 miles (washington dc to richmond va), but they can't smuggle in drones, atgms, landmines, and other assorted goodies that would turn Gaza city into a death trap? Or send advisors to train Hamas fighters in urban warfare or warfare in general?

According to Wikipedia the IDF has lost 52 soldiers in three weeks of ground operations in Gaza. About 2.4 soldiers a day. For comparison, the US lost 54 soldiers in 9 days during the second battle of Fallujah. About 6 soldiers a day. And what makes these numbers worse is that Hamas has had since 2014 to prepare for this. The jihadists in Fallujah had six months and 11 days.
Could be that even Iran looks at Hamas as utter fucking tards and don't want to give them too good equipment incase they decided to maximise their tard rage targets.
 
Could be that even Iran looks at Hamas as utter fucking tards and don't want to give them too good equipment incase they decided to maximise their tard rage targets.
Right now Iran is facing a title wave of issues, from distrust at home, to a failed economy, geriatric leadership in which the elites are actually in their 80s-90s (imagine if the president, the vp and everyone else were over the age of 83) which still seeks to export a revolution for the 1970s across the Middle East and the larger world, an environmental catastrophe, massive amounts of youth unemployment. Speaking of the youth, most of them are sick and tired of the religious government and actually are pretty secular, a very large movement which seeks to normalize relations with the west and sees the Palestinian Israeli conflict as an Arab issue, not a Persian issue, and the IRGC which has been turning the country from a theocratic "democracy" (I use that term very lightly here it's Iran we are talking about) into a Russian/Soviet style single party dictatorship run by the IRGC. Along with neighbors in the north which just won a war and is seeking to reclaim territory ( I'm talking about Azerbaijan here), as such, Iran is faced with a conundrum. Either they let their exportation of their revolution continue and eventually their shit will get pounded in because this will bite them in the ass eventually or they cut and run and attempt to normalize. But if I know the IRGC well enough, I'm pretty sure this is going to end up with a war in Iran, or at least a civil War again.
 
So the Iranians can smuggle in a giant missile that can travel 99 miles (washington dc to richmond va), but they can't smuggle in drones, atgms, landmines, and other assorted goodies that would turn Gaza city into a death trap? Or send advisors to train Hamas fighters in urban warfare or warfare in general?
That's why I wrote "manufactured/designed". It's an Iranian design that the Palestinians claim they're able to assemble themselves ("Made in Palestine" is written on the tail), but it's uncertain how true that is. Similarly, the Houthis also claim they're able to make their own 1600 km range ballistic missiles with absolutely no outside help at all.

They definitely have been smuggling in drones, ATGMs, and landmines; it just turns out to have not been enough.

Palestinians reporting Israel has stripped two East Jerusalem residents of their citizenship:
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IDF forces operating in Jenin caught a terrorist attempting to flee into a hospital:
 
Didn't see it posted yet. A bunch of protestors blocked both sides of the golden gate bridge calling for a ceasefire. They parked their cars to block traffic and threw their keys into the bay. There was a couple dozen arrests and about 30 cars got towed. Traffic was blocked for about 2 hours.

And now pro-Palestinians are in the lead for most annoying. And really, avoid major cities whenever possible; it's the best defense against niggardry like this.
 
Didn't see it posted yet. A bunch of protestors blocked both sides of the golden gate bridge calling for a ceasefire. They parked their cars to block traffic and threw their keys into the bay. There was a couple dozen arrests and about 30 cars got towed. Traffic was blocked for about 2 hours.


Well it seems like this stunt failed even more spectacularly than first hoped and also put people's lives DIRECTLY at risk, not just potentially. (ambulances etc)

UCSF transplant organs delayed by Bay Bridge protest closure

Also it looks like r/sanfrancisco isn't amused in general.. imagine not even having SF redditors on your side for your progressive protest.
 
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