2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict

That's why I wrote "manufactured/designed". It's an Iranian design that the Palestinians claim they're able to assemble themselves ("Made in Palestine" is written on the tail), but it's uncertain how true that is. Similarly, the Houthis also claim they're able to make their own 1600 km range ballistic missiles with absolutely no outside help at all.
Thanks for the clarification.

They definitely have been smuggling in drones, ATGMs, and landmines; it just turns out to have not been enough.
Have any videos/reports? Only drones I know of are the ones at the very start used against the watch towers and that one against a tank. Haven't seen anything since than. Only use of ATGMs that I know of are the ones in the north by Hezbollah. Which they used against an APC and more watch towers.
 
You have to admire Elon Musk for his trolling, if nothing else:

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Well it seems like this stunt failed even more spectacularly than first hoped and also put people's lives DIRECTLY at risk, not just potentially. (ambulances etc)

UCSF transplant organs delayed by Bay Bridge protest closure

Also it looks like r/sanfrancisco isn't amused in general.. imagine not even having SF redditors on your side for your progressive protest.

They're a bunch of spoiled children who cannot accept that sometimes you can't get your way even if you're really, really, really sure that you're in the right. Sometimes things happen that enrage you, and you are powerless to stop those things, and you have to deal with it.

Most people accept this by adulthood, but not these people. So they keep escalating, because this will finally be the thing that somehow magically tips the scales and gives the movie a happy ending. "Shutting down the Bay Bridge" and "causing a ceasefire in Gaza" have no causal connection, but that doesn't matter if your mind operates on the same level as a toddler who thinks throwing himself on the ground and screaming will reverse the fact that he just dropped his ice cream cone.

And it wouldn't be a pro-Palestine protest without a fat they/them:

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You have to admire Elon Musk for his trolling, if nothing else:

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They're a bunch of spoiled children who cannot accept that sometimes you can't get your way even if you're really, really, really sure that you're in the right. Sometimes things happen that enrage you, and you are powerless to stop those things, and you have to deal with it.

Most people accept this by adulthood, but not these people. So they keep escalating, because this will finally be the thing that somehow magically tips the scales and gives the movie a happy ending. "Shutting down the Bay Bridge" and "causing a ceasefire in Gaza" have no causal connection, but that doesn't matter if your mind operates on the same level as a toddler who thinks throwing himself on the ground and screaming will reverse the fact that he just dropped his ice cream cone.

And it wouldn't be a pro-Palestine protest without a fat they/them:

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I mean, usually it works for these people (BLM, screaming about George Washington owning slaves, turning your city into a sanctuary town for Los Zetas, etc)

Its just that, now its the jews they're going against- so they're fucked.
 
Ben Shapiro is not going to like this...
Love this development. Finkelstein is one of the OGs of this conflict and knowledgeable, and he makes other Jews seethe a tremendous amount
Ben will lose a few nights of sleep pondering what to do with stronk preggy bleqqq independent women Candace
As for Elon moaning about decolonization and slogans, well guess what, Israelis are now decolonizing Gaza and it implies a genocide too.
Maybe ban the IDF too ELON!??
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A Tanzanian student taken hostage on October 7 was announced as dead.


Tanzania’s foreign ministry announces the death of Clemence Felix Mtenga, a 22-year-old citizen who was thought to have been among the hostages in Gaza.

Mtenga was in Israel as part of a modern agriculture training program in the Gaza border town of Nir Oz. He and fellow Tanzanian national Joshua Luito Molal have been unaccounted for since the October 7.

The foreign ministry statement does not provide any details regarding Mtenga’s death but says it is in contact with Israeli authorities about bringing his body back to Tanzania for burial.

Mtenga and Molal were among of roughly 260 young Tanzanians in Israel as part of the collaborative government program between the two countries.

No details released beyond this, but Israel is working with Tanzania to return his body home. My guess is he's been recovered from the hospital alongside the two Israeli women.

I doubt there's any comfortable way to know this, but I'm curious as to when Clemence Felix Mtenga, Yehudit Weiss and Noa Marciano were killed. Soon after being taken hostage, or more recently? If it was more recently, (like, with the IDF in striking distance of the hospital), I can see the IDF changing tactics and conducting raids to clear buildings, civilians be damned, to try to prevent hostages from being killed.
 
Ben Shapiro is not going to like this...
I've never liked Candace cause she used to run an anti-White doxing operation but this is a fucking BASED way to burn the bridge with daily wire.
I guess it‘s pretty based, but Owens is your standard populist grifter, Sexual Chocolate Ian Miles Cheong. She knows who she’s appealing to by hosting the radleft son of USSR-loving jewish bolsheviks. Finkelstein’s parents attributed the defeat of Nazi Germany to the Soviet Union, so why did they emigrate to the USA instead of the Soviet Union? If the USA is an evil empire, stop moving in. Finkelstein called Hezbollah “heroic” for their opposition to colonialism...why no condo in Beirut? Why are these motherfuckers that hate the USA so much always planting themselves in the States? Do they think US’s prosperity and power came from lollipops & puppies? It came from blood & fire like every other country of import.

Israel is worthy of tons of negative scrutiny, but Finkelstein is a historical revisionist who poo-poo’s every single thing Palestinians have done to make their situation worse. “Oh, that’s nonsense, here’s how Israel’s entirely to blame for Palestinian retardation”. He supports Hamas & Hezbollah and went on Hezbollah‘s Al-Manar tv network to do propaganda for them. Only Israelis are expected to employ any self-awareness & they’re supposed to undo almost 150 years of zionism...essentially they must ignore Hamas’s charter and cut their own throats.

It’s odd how some people are so quick to platform the jewish contingent most responsible for the domestic societal decay they overtly & covertly blame on international jewry: Leftist secular jews.
 
I doubt there's any comfortable way to know this, but I'm curious as to when Clemence Felix Mtenga, Yehudit Weiss and Noa Marciano were killed. Soon after being taken hostage, or more recently? If it was more recently, (like, with the IDF in striking distance of the hospital), I can see the IDF changing tactics and conducting raids to clear buildings, civilians be damned, to try to prevent hostages from being killed.
I'll put money on recently executed, mainly because it would be weird to have corpses lying around for a month. Also, what tactics can the IDF use to protect the hostages? Israel is very much in a "We don't negotiate with terrorists mood" so there isn't much reason for Hamas to hold on to them, especially if the IDF is around the corner.

Speaking of which, what is the total of hostages recovered, killed, and still missing?
 
I'll put money on recently executed, mainly because it would be weird to have corpses lying around for a month. Also, what tactics can the IDF use to protect the hostages? Israel is very much in a "We don't negotiate with terrorists mood" so there isn't much reason for Hamas to hold on to them, especially if the IDF is around the corner.

Speaking of which, what is the total of hostages recovered, killed, and still missing?

Four released, 1 rescued, and I think 4 dead so far (the old man, and the three near the hospital. 5 if you want to include the rave woman who was dead on the truck, but Hamas sympathizers claimed was totally alive). I'm not counting the "Hamas totally said airstrikes killed x hostages" without any proof of who they were.

If these hostages were killed recently, and I mean, when Israel was in range of taking the hospital, I can see them doing commando operations, killing basically anybody in their way in the chance to recover hostages alive. If they died a while ago (and were dumped, or shoved into a morgue) then I can see Israel still being more cautious in taking facilities were they think hostages might still be, including negotiating for the surrender of people inside those facilities. As fucked as it is, the chance of hostages being recovered is likely holding Israel/the IDF back.

In another update, Israel has agreed to let fuel into Gaza specifically to ensure no sewage failure, and to restore some telecommunications


The IDF and Shin Bet (basically Israel's NSA) both recommended this provision, and it was requested by the US.

The IDF stated they don't want a pandemic to occur in Gaza while military operations were underway, and I'm guessing (the article doesn't state it) they want telecommunications restored to see if any retarded Hamas cockroaches communicate about where they are/where a hostage is located.
 
I'll put money on recently executed, mainly because it would be weird to have corpses lying around for a month. Also, what tactics can the IDF use to protect the hostages? Israel is very much in a "We don't negotiate with terrorists mood" so there isn't much reason for Hamas to hold on to them, especially if the IDF is around the corner.

Speaking of which, what is the total of hostages recovered, killed, and still missing?
At this point they need to realize they're not getting anything from the hostages. Israel isn't keeping them from them flattening cities. They're an absolute liability.

If they wanted to make a point they'd publicly execute a couple to make a point.
 
Love this development. Finkelstein is one of the OGs of this conflict and knowledgeable, and he makes other Jews seethe a tremendous amount
Ben will lose a few nights of sleep pondering what to do with stronk preggy bleqqq independent women Candace
As for Elon moaning about decolonization and slogans, well guess what, Israelis are now decolonizing Gaza and it implies a genocide too.
Maybe ban the IDF too ELON!??
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Christ can we please send every person responsible for an Israeli official Twitter account and send them into the deepest parts of Gaza with nothing but a butter knife? If I have to read one more of these concentrated cringe posts I'll Samson option myself.
 
At this point they need to realize they're not getting anything from the hostages. Israel isn't keeping them from them flattening cities. They're an absolute liability.

If they wanted to make a point they'd publicly execute a couple to make a point.

I disagree. I think the hostages is keeping the IDF from just drowning the tunnels and shooting anybody who comes out of them, or bunker busting them. If Hamas starts killing hostages (my guess is a large chunk of them are dead already, especially any male hostages) then there's no reason for the IDF to give any fucks about destroying facilities from afar. The hostages are basically the only leverage Hamas has now.

Israel isn't even pretending to give a shit about the UN this time around, the Arab world, for the most part, are playing their song and dance routine, but won't stop Israel (and good odds Egypt and the Palestinian Authority both want Hamas dead to a man), Hezbollah and Iran aren't going to do more than what they've done so far. Outside of Trudeau being a weasel, in order to not piss off the Muslim vote in Canada he needs to not be destroyed completely at the next election, Western countries have stayed mum or embraced Israel. Hamas probably expected international pressure to curtail Israel, but that isn't happening this time.
 
Love this development. Finkelstein is one of the OGs of this conflict and knowledgeable, and he makes other Jews seethe a tremendous amount
Ben will lose a few nights of sleep pondering what to do with stronk preggy bleqqq independent women Candace
As for Elon moaning about decolonization and slogans, well guess what, Israelis are now decolonizing Gaza and it implies a genocide too.
Maybe ban the IDF too ELON!??
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terror's got a nice ass
 
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