Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

[WhimsicalTrolli]

Honestly if a YouTuber reveal their face. It's probably best to wrap it up to avoid any future embarrassment.

 

[Ghostse]

I don't think anyone here is really saying that Dream is a pedophile, or that 20-25 y/o's who have thought 17 y/o's were hot before are pedophiles. That is really extreme, and to be clear, I don't think that. What they, or we, are saying is that if someone in that age bracket is continually going after high schoolers, it is generally a good indicator that person is maladjusted in some way: they're immature at best, an actual predator at worst. I don't care if "muh AOC" is 16 in some states, it's not just physical attractiveness that factors in to the equation.

Solid agree.

Also "There is a difference between skeevy behavior, criminal behavior, and behavior that should be criminal". A 20-year old e-celeb sliding into a 17-year old's DM is kinda skeevy, but its not criminal nor should it be - if both parties think this is normal that's a failing of society to enforce norms not the legal system.
Him getting nudes from said 17-year old knowing she's 17 is both skeevy AND criminal; and maybe it shouldn't be criminal but its hard to make that not criminal without giving legit pedocreepers additional room.

really any celeb banging a fan regardless of age is kinda skeevy, but the new sauce the internet has allowed is that instead of just randomly giving a cute girl a backstage pass and she's all over your junk, now they are sliding into DMs and pre-planning these hook ups and its like Murder vs. Manslaughter.


tl;dr: remember that time you jacked off imaging that hot girl in your class in highschool? Ha, Checkmate. Who's the pedo now? Enjoy prison, stalker pedophile?

Is that a "grass on the field" joke? because coincidentally all the chads I knew certainly believed in that...

it was a deliberate choice of phrase and I'm glad someone caught it.

No idea, but you have femcels even on this site who want the age of consent to be raised and insist a grown-up woman in her 20s can still be groomed somehow.

"Women are literal children with zero agency and should be treated as such"
Wow, there is common ground to be had with femcels.

 

[SentinentCloud]

Let's be real, most people don't actually care about the nuances of what Dream did. They want an excuse to broadcast how much they already hated him.

Any misconduct with a minor, no matter how minuscule, is a hater's golden ticket. People aren't going to get bogged down by specifics.

Pretty much

i think most of the hate boner from the dude its his fan girls who got insanely mad when he did the brick jaw face reveal and turns out its not that good looking

 

[SBG]

Let's be real, most people don't actually care about the nuances of what Dream did. They want an excuse to broadcast how much they already hated him.

Any misconduct with a minor, no matter how minuscule, is a hater's golden ticket. People aren't going to get bogged down by specifics.

Think a lot of people don't even need to have hated him to begin with. They just want an excuse to hate something and Dream is the hot new Current Thing to act enraged over. If the video of the Gumball guy came out a couple weeks ago we may have seen a huge wave of hate for him instead.

 

[ayy be see]

Dream stans are trying to rewrite history and now the original "drantis" (what the actual fuck is this lingo) who hate Dream and who doxed him are us gosh darn neonazis here on kiwi farms who were so upset about Dream fostering a community of faggots that we tried to get him to kill himself.

For those new to the thread, Dream's been doxed a few times, all of them have been off site. The first time was because Dream or someone close to him was saying he was undoxable, and of course people took that as a challenge then a dude named "Generic Name" did it. This resulted in Dream making a "fake" dox to spread around, as well as Dream offering bitcoin to Generic to take the real dox down, and Dream using his connections from the doxing community he was a part of to get it removed where he could.
The second time was from Team Rooted because they fucking hate Dream's ego.
There was another attempt in between those two, where Dream got "doxed" from a fan who is retarded, that just googled Clay Bryce and spread that information around, Clay Bryce being the name Dream used in his fake dox.

No one gives a shit that you retards are "queer / poc / women", no one here was trying to get Dream to kill himself.


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The only thing even remotely similar us in the thread did was put a timeline together of how fat Dream used to be using images he posted himself, his family posted on Facebook publicly, or that his bpd ex leaked.

 

[Dicky Kicky]

YouTuber,” should be the tell they are either completely full of shit &/or are utter degenerate scum, on some levels.
It souldn’t have to be pointed out to these e-famous creeps also have PR people & legal counsel that they could run any amount of these things through before saying what-the-fuck-ever, publicity about it all. They don’t, though.
The Internet retards out-retard the people in positions that could help them avoid this exact shit.
If Dream didn’t want to save himself, & didn’t want to let his network of people try to cov

 

[Faggitory]

I always found it funny as well, especially considering that in most states the age of consent is 16, just like in most of the world. Funny still is that it is in the states with the most fucked up cities like California or New York that have a legal age of consent of 18 or 17. The zealousness around this legal boundary is certainly very strange when even within USA it is the minority opinion.

Law is the law and it should be respected, of course, but it does make you wonder: would those same spastics be just as outraged if overnight the age of consent was lowered to 16? Or would they be fine with fucking a 16 year old then? I don't live in USA so I always found that to be weird.

Its really funny you say this. I'd answer "no" because I've never met a 16 year old that didn't act like a literal child. Same for 17 year old TBH. Maybe its autistic, and maybe I'm an Amerimutt, but I do believe its a bad look to go after 17 year olds sexually. Maybe its not for Dream if he's 20, but depending on the age difference, I'd feel different about it. We all know why some 40 year old would go after a 17 year old, don't we? Or maybe I've just been around really immature 17 year olds?

Anyway, I find it funny people get so anal about lolicon, but will go "Oh, who cares if she's underage according to the law? She's 17!". Like, funny ha-ha, its amusing to me.

 

[Radiaux]

He wasn't. And it's unlikely that he will be.

So much ado about nothing, ah I see.

Well one day but not this day.

 

[valerian]

correct me if im wrong but this is a new 17 year old, right? considering this has happened multiple times now (i believe the other girl was 17 too?) i dont think the question should really be "is it okay for a 20 year old to sext with a 17 year old" but rather "hey dream, why are there multiple occurances of you talking to 17 year olds instead of people your age?"

 

[Diggus Bickus]

I don't think anyone here is really saying that Dream is a pedophile, or that 20-25 y/o's who have thought 17 y/o's were hot before are pedophiles. That is really extreme, and to be clear, I don't think that. What they, or we, are saying is that if someone in that age bracket is continually going after high schoolers, it is generally a good indicator that person is maladjusted in some way: they're immature at best, an actual predator at worst. I don't care if "muh AOC" is 16 in some states, it's not just physical attractiveness that factors in to the equation.

For example, why would you - an independent 23 year old - want to date someone who is still in high school, still lives with parents, may not even have their own vehicle or job, would be very dependent, and still in fucking high school? Maybe because they can't manage to pull anyone in their own age group (red flag), or they like the codependence and naivety that comes with being 16 (red flag).

I don't understand why this is so hard for people to grasp.

I solidly agree with you and if I could slap down Semper Fidelis I would, but I can't because this forum is retarded when it comes to reactions.

Although I will remind you that yes. People here ARE saying that dream is a pedo and if you lurked a little through the thread you would see it. Even if many call them stupid faggots for oversimplifying a situation, there's still niggers from twitter that lurk here and just wanna do their xD le funnies XD dream pedo.

If anyone here came from the twitter threads, kindly kill yourselves.

correct me if im wrong but this is a new 17 year old, right? considering this has happened multiple times now (i believe the other girl was 17 too?) i dont think the question should really be "is it okay for a 20 year old to sext with a 17 year old" but rather "hey dream, why are there multiple occurances of you talking to 17 year olds instead of people your age?"

Absolutely should be. Because if this happened more than once then it should be more of a question of what the fuck he's doing instead of a dick measuring contest of power leveling.

I think we all know by now Dream is a fat loser who can't really step up to women that actually have self esteem or some sort of independence over their lives, so of course he looks for more vulnerable targets (like his autistic fans) so he can have an easy way to get what he wants. He's not really the first youtuber to do this, so it isn't surprising he has.

 

[Faggitory]

i dont think the question should really be "is it okay for a 20 year old to sext with a 17 year old" but rather "hey dream, why are there multiple occurances of you talking to 17 year olds instead of people your age?"

A fact people don't want to admit is that Dream very well could be trying to find a more manipulatable sex partner. Instead of dating chicks around his age or friend group, he's trying to get with a younger one so that he can control her easier. People are quick to dismiss this property, because again the age gap would be 3 years or so, but its still possible he's trying to be a creep. I will one again admit that I find this believable because I've seen it before IRL.

 

[Markass the Worst]

I solidly agree with you and if I could slap down Semper Fidelis I would, but I can't because this forum is retarded when it comes to reactions.

Semper Fidelis is donators-only ("True & Honest Fan"), there's just a bug that shows it as available when it isn't.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

I actually don't quite see the issue with dating fans, as long as they're legal age. I'm not saying it's smart, but why would it be immoral?

 

[WelperHelper99]

correct me if im wrong but this is a new 17 year old, right? considering this has happened multiple times now (i believe the other girl was 17 too?) i dont think the question should really be "is it okay for a 20 year old to sext with a 17 year old" but rather "hey dream, why are there multiple occurances of you talking to 17 year olds instead of people your age?"

Yeah... you can't tell me he doesn't have 18yo fans because I've met them, mostly guys, but you can't tell me there's not a chick in there. How hard is it to find someone of age nation wide that would stop controversy in its tracks? Think of your career man

 

[Faggitory]

I'm not saying it's smart, but why would it be immoral?

I guess it would be immoral because fans can be so enthralled by celebs that they'd do pretty much anything. Hypothetically speaking, there'd be a ton of fans who'd let Dream treat them like shit simply because he's dream and the they should feel lucky he even cares enough to belittle them. So, that's why it would be immoral, but that doesn't mean it always is. If you're a bum fuck lets player with 20 subscribers, and a chick was interested in you because she liked your videos, no one would care if you dated her.

 

[Diggus Bickus]

I actually don't quite see the issue with dating fans, as long as they're legal age. I'm not saying it's smart, but why would it be immoral?

It depends on what lines you're willing to cross. If you're dating a fan of yours that's like not autistic or a normal person who the fuck gives a shit. Pewdiepie did this same exact thing and now he's happily married and has kids too.

With dream, he's continuously choosing high schoolers without any semblance of independence that most likely are autistic shut-ins with an unhealthy parasocial relationship with him. That's what makes it immoral, the fact that he's specifically looking for weak individuals to take advantage of.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

I guess it would be immoral because fans can be so enthralled by celebs that they'd do pretty much anything. Hypothetically speaking, there'd be a ton of fans who'd let Dream treat them like shit simply because he's dream and the they should feel lucky he even cares enough to belittle them. So, that's why it would be immoral, but that doesn't mean it always is. If you're a bum fuck lets player with 20 subscribers, and a chick was interested in you because she liked your videos, no one would care if you dated her.

It depends on what lines you're willing to cross. If you're dating a fan of yours that's like not autistic or a normal person who the fuck gives a shit. Pewdiepie did this same exact thing and now he's happily married and has kids too.

With dream, he's continuously choosing high schoolers without any semblance of independence that most likely are autistic shut-ins with an unhealthy parasocial relationship with him. That's what makes it immoral, the fact that he's specifically looking for weak individuals to take advantage of.

I guess... kinda? But is it all that different from a woman dating a CEO or a fighter pilot or some other glamorous job? I don't think that being attracted to someone because you're impressed by their career makes it wrong to date them. I get what you mean about looking for weak people but I feel like that's a separate issue.

 

[cuntcontrol]

I think the conversation revolving around the idea that 20 and 17 are extremely different mentality and maturity wise is redundant. Dream is always interacting with his underaged fans without boundaries, which is what the real issue is. We can just agree that Dream is a faggot who self-sabotages without shitting up the thread for pages if he’s a pedophile or not.

correct me if im wrong but this is a new 17 year old, right? considering this has happened multiple times now (i believe the other girl was 17 too?) i dont think the question should really be "is it okay for a 20 year old to sext with a 17 year old" but rather "hey dream, why are there multiple occurances of you talking to 17 year olds instead of people your age?"

This, coupled with him being with Nick, who was drunk, is complete self-sabotage on Dream’s part. Surely he couldn’t have predicted everyone pointing and laughing at him getting called a faggot by a children’s VA, but Dream’s frontal lobe must not be fully developed if he truly thought continuing to put himself in situations with people younger than him or in a vulnerable position is the right move. It’s just stupid and he does not know how to handle being internet famous. What kind of moron who is already hated by the masses continues to give said mob material for days via a total twitter meltdown? He’s either retarded or loves attention.

 

[Diggus Bickus]

I guess... kinda? But is it all that different from a woman dating a CEO or a fighter pilot or some other glamorous job? I don't think that being attracted to someone because you're impressed by their career makes it wrong to date them. I get what you mean about looking for weak people but I feel like that's a separate issue.

That's because it is a separate issue and niggers in this thread are incapable of thinking nuancedly.

Spoiler: If you're a youtuber A-log open this

Looking at you, Mutahar and Tom, you retarded nigger faggots.

 

[Faggitory]

But is it all that different from a woman dating a CEO or a fighter pilot or some other glamorous job?

Yeah, actually. Its pretty different. I've never heard of a woman becoming unhealthily attached to a fighter pilot. I mean, I'm sure it happens, but I think celebrities attract more of that parasocial relationship stuff. Add to that all the autistic chicks following a minecraft youtuber, and you can see this is a recipe for disaster.

Its not about simply being impressed with a carrer. If some woman said "Wow, he built a brand all by himself? That's boyfriend material". I might even say "huh? Oh, I guess you're right when you think about it like that". Its the fact that his fans might love him a bit too much. As I said, to the point of willingly allowing Dream's unstable ass to do anything to them.