I Let My Picky Kid Eat Pizza For Thanksgiving & Everyone Lived - The Supertaster Question

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My son called pizza his “special turkey” for about five years. He would not eat regular, nonspecial turkey, not for me. Not for his grandmother, who would never have asked him to in the first place because she was firmly on his side in all things. Not for his stepfather, especially, or anyone in his stepfather’s family, which was a personal affront to all of them. No turkey. Or carrots. Or mashed potatoes unless he saw me make them and could guarantee that I didn’t mash any secret vegetables like cauliflower in to fool him. He did not eat much of anything for a very, very long time. And this was OK most of the year but really the worst at Thanksgiving.

It was always the worst at my husband’s family’s house. We were married for five years only, five years of someone else being the boss of all of us until we decided to be the boss of us. Those Thanksgiving dinners with four kids over one weekend where I knew I had two choices in front of me: feed my son what I knew he would eat or try to “make him eat with the rest of us.” He was expected to sit with the entire family at dinner, to have cut-up turkey and potatoes and carrots on a plate with, and this was fatally important, no ketchup, and eat. Preferably in silence with his hair smoothed over his forehead and a smile on his face.

I was too young to say much then. Too pregnant half the time, too busy with new babies and toddlers and diapers to push back. And so, in the beginning, I tried. To make everyone happy but my son. In the car on the way to dinner, I begged him, “Please, hon, just eat a little bit of turkey and potatoes and you can have a big chocolate brownie for dessert.” I brought bribery brownies with me because pumpkin pie looked too much like a vegetable to him and he would not try it.

My son would tell me “I’ll try,” but you could see in his face it was beyond him. He simply could not force himself to eat it. Once, to prep for the coming holiday, I tried to practice with him. I put one piece of macaroni on his plate and told him that he could have whatever he wanted for dinner if he just ate that one piece. I’m ashamed to tell you I baked an entire funfetti cake and put it on the table in front of him. I’m more ashamed to tell you that I told him he could eat the entire thing if he just tried one piece of my very delicious macaroni.

His little hand with his little fork shaking as it closed in on his little mouth. “I can’t, Mommy,” he finally said. “I just can’t.”

He just couldn’t, and I knew it. I accepted it. Our doctor accepted it, told me he was healthy and he would grow out of it so don’t worry about it. At home, when it was just us, he kept his own bottle of ketchup beside him at the table, ate the mashed potatoes I made him while he pulled his chair over to the kitchen counter to eye me suspiciously. “Can I trust these?” he would ask and I would sigh and push aside the parsnips I was about to mash in when he wasn’t looking. He ate peanut butter sandwiches; he ate bananas. He ate french fries and hot dog buns without the hot dogs dipped in ketchup. He ate cheese pizza.

Then Thanksgiving would come, and we didn’t get to decide anymore, because of the Family. They felt like its own entity separate from my mom and my kids and me, humorless and unknowable. Make him turkey. Make him eat carrots. And do not let him cry.

Because that’s what he would do, just sit there and cry. I was often put at the other end of the table so I couldn’t “let him get away” with anything, as I was told was my habit. For two Thanksgivings, he sat at the table and cried. His stepfather sat beside him, flushed with the effort of trying to show the Family that he, unlike me, was the strong one. When he cried, the Family said, “This is a great way to spend Thanksgiving, listening to him cry all through dinner,” and glared down at me, sitting in front of my untouched food. Useless. I watched my son as his older brother, just a little boy himself, would sneak some of his turkey onto his plate to help him. Inside, I curdled like spoiled milk.

I let that happen for two years and then I said no. My mom said no. My mother-in-law said no. No, he is eating a slice of pizza kept in a Ziploc baggie for his dinner. He and his older brother are drinking chocolate milk too. When he wants mashed potatoes, if he wants mashed potatoes, he gets his own private bottle of ketchup like he does at home. The Family frowned at first. They gossiped about my unruly child, the whiner who got away with everything. But eventually someone else’s kid threw a temper tantrum at the table, and they could talk about her instead.

My son sat quietly eating his special turkey called cheese pizza. I left his stepfather and our Family was cut in half. And so we became a Family of our own. The kind who wears track pants at Thanksgiving and eats whatever the hell we want. And for this, we are thankful.
 
??? What the fuck are people doing that their food can turn out this way??
"Food thermometer? What's that? ...No, that bird stays in the countertop roaster for at least four hours, regardless of how big or small it is, so that I know that the stuffing is done."
 
Her first mistake was giving a shit what he wants. You're not his friend, you're his mom. Spoiled kid and his enabling mom. I'd say I feel bad for the dad, but that kid is Cartman IRL.
The finishing touch on the story is how the kid needs his own personal ketchup bottle instead of using the communal / familial ketchup bottle.

Also ketchup on mashed potatoes is unforgiveable.
 
If you just don't serve junk food, the kid will eventually get hungry enough to eat or at least try what you put out. Seems to me this kid is refusing to even put the food in his mouth. Autism I suppose?
I was a picky autistic eater and I still found things I like. Mainly turkey, potatos and gravey and a few other odd bits. Even then I would branch out a little every year.
 
Her first mistake was giving a shit what he wants. You're not his friend, you're his mom. Spoiled kid and his enabling mom. I'd say I feel bad for the dad, but that kid is Cartman IRL.
I’ve been to way too many funerals that had a parent say “I should have been a parent, not a friend.”

Really puts into perspective that me being resentful for my parents not letting me do “X” is fucking retarded.
 
I’ve been to way too many funerals that had a parent say “I should have been a parent, not a friend.”
Then there are parents that aren't getting funerals, or if they are it'll be so their kids can celebrate that they're finally dead
Her first mistake was giving a shit what he wants.
Neither did my mom. I don't speak to her any more and neither me or my sister have eaten turkey on Thanksgiving in 15+ years.
I was a picky autistic eater and I still found things I like. Mainly turkey, potatos and gravey and a few other odd bits. Even then I would branch out a little every year.
Rolls and pumpkin pie was how I survived Thanksgiving as a kid. And trying not to look at any food where just the smell made me gag (like that nasty sweet potato thing with marshmallows, pretty sure I would've projectile vomited all over the table if anyone forced me to eat that shit).
 
Then there are parents that aren't getting funerals, or if they are it'll be so their kids can celebrate that they're finally dead

I know a few people who are like that, but in most cases the kid is a shit head. One girl I know fucking despises her mother, but loves her aunt and uncle who raised her and is trying to rebuild her relationship with her dad. Mom was a psycho bitch who sends threatening messages to her sister (the aunt) and blatantly played favorites.

The parents who don’t make boundaries and force kids out of their comfort zone are typically worse though. I think everyone has stories of a parent being unfairly restrictive or pigheaded, but retrospective typically can make you understand, if not appreciate why.

Back to Thanksgiving, boil garlic with your potatoes for garlic mashed potatoes. Adding garlic salt is nigger shit. You should adjust salt and butter when you are mashing the potatoes. Whole and sour cream help the texture.
Don’t use Yukon gold, use Russets.
 
I know a few people who are like that, but in most cases the kid is a shit head. One girl I know fucking despises her mother, but loves her aunt and uncle who raised her and is trying to rebuild her relationship with her dad. Mom was a psycho bitch who sends threatening messages to her sister (the aunt) and blatantly played favorites.
Sounds like my mom

Not that forcing her kids to choke down turkey that was drier than death valley every year did her any favors.

Thanksgiving was a shit holiday until I became an adult and had it with people who weren't my family.

I also didn't realize that turkey isn't dry AF and flavorless shit that people only pretend tastes good and that my family just didn't know how to cook it properly til i was an adult.
 
Sounds like my mom

Not that forcing her kids to choke down turkey that was drier than death valley every year did her any favors.

Thanksgiving was a shit holiday until I became an adult and had it with people who weren't my family.
I’m sorry for that. Thanksgiving was always a great time for my family and extended family. I’m glad you can enjoy it now.

If you hate Turkey then you can try Capon. It’s a castrated rooster and it’s the only time you’ll ever say “Wow, I’m glad someone cut this things testicles off.”
Although you do participate in the man hate thread so I’m probably wrong.
 
... I'm bored and curious, anyone ever use turkey as a pizza topping?
Yes, it’s okay. Turkey tacos (using dark meat) are fantastic. Turkey pho is good. Caesar salad wraps are great.

I am economical (miserly), so I stock up on clearance turkeys. Sometimes it’s like 15lbs of meat for $10. I use it pretty much any way I’d use chicken.

Anyone else appreciate that the unsupportive spouse was her second husband (and the son’s stepfather)?

Honestly, though, learning the “just do what you’re told” and “food is fuel, don’t expect it to always be pleasant” lessons are important. If the kid is crying because he has to eat turkey, then he should be ridiculed until he complies.
 
My son would tell me “I’ll try,” but you could see in his face it was beyond him.
Have you try starving him a day or two? Serve only two things on the table: water, and whatever food that is "beyond him". Clear the table in 30 minutes whether he finished his meal or not.

Because that’s what he would do, just sit there and cry.
Let him cry. Let him baw his eyes out all before your extended family. Inform everyone beforehand that your spoiled child will cry, and tell them that when he does so everyone should just ignore him and chat and eat as usual. Seek your extended family's co-operation: no finger pointing. No private pizza or chocolate milk.

You fear your son would embarrasses you by crying, thus you let your child to hold power over you.
 
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Have you try starving him a day or two? Serve only two things on the table: water, and whatever food that is "beyond him". Clear the table in 30 minutes whether he finished his meal or not.


Let him cry. Let him baw his eyes out all before your extended family. Inform everyone beforehand that your spoiled child will cry, and tell them that when he does so everyone should just ignore him and chat and eat as usual. Seek your extended family's co-operation: no finger pointing. No private pizza or chocolate milk.

You fear your son would embarrasses you by crying, thus you let your child to hold power over you.
A great tactic, although if you are doing this for the first time have a plan if your kid decides go violent or otherwise destructive. Many kids when they get the silent treatment for the first time tend try more extreme measures to get the control back. It's absolutely normal and nothing really to worry about but you need to make sure it doesn't actually work.

Usually the best is to silently remove your child to calm down. It's not ment to be a punishment exactly, more so nothing feeds into the emotional turmoil. Take to away from people and make sure there isn't anything super fun to do like video games. If nothing else is available take them outside, especially great if it's cold and miserable. When bordom gets better of them and they calm down, then depending on the circumstances return to table like nothing happened or make them clean and apologize the mess they caused.
 
I was a picky eater as a kid and couldn't handle most vegetables because they tasted like bitter cardboard to me. Eventually, I found ways of incorporating them into my food: mushing them up and mixing them with something, flavoring them with spices or sauces. I still don't like vegetables, but I recognize that I just can't eat meat, carbs and dairy all day. The only time I ever put my foot down on a vegetable was when my Dad tried to feed me pickled beets. Mom would can them, and they'd turn a color not unlike the Colour Out of Space in that one Lovecraft story. Seriously, I never saw a color like it in Nature before or since, and it tasted like what I imagine Satan's turds would taste like. You may like pickled beets, and that's okay, but I'd probably eat my own shoes before trying those again.

Also, how dumb is the kid in the article that he can't just sneak the turkey under his plate and pretend to eat it? I got rid of loads of vegetables that way, and by volunteering to clear the table at the end of the meal, I was able to conceal my crime. Kid's a doofus.
 
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Eat whatever you fucking want, thats your right. However, dont act like you are in the right to catering to the wants of a spoiled brat.
 
As a former picky eater kid and current relatively picky eater adult, turkey is bland and inoffensive so I don't understand why a kid would refuse to eat it other than just being a little shit who always gets his way when he demands pizza instead of whatever his parents make for him. When I was a little shit and refused to eat things that meant I ate nothing.
 
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