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Actually, Go Ahead and Bring Up Abortion Over Turkey and Stuffing This Year​

We’ve been inundated with horrifying stories since the Supreme Court overruled Roe v. Wade, clearing the way for elderly male legislators to interject themselves into extremely personal medical decisions. But one story I read last week sent a particular chill up my spine and has haunted me ever since.

The New York Times took a brief break from visiting rural diners to talk to people who say they would vote for Kamala Harris but not for Joe Biden for president in 2024. Their reasons ranged from Biden being “too old” to “a bit of a doofus” (OK, fair if the stakes weren’t so high), but one woman’s answer stood out. She told the reporter that she strongly supports abortion rights and that that issue would decide her vote. Because abortion bans went into effect during Biden’s presidency, she blamed him. She had no idea that Biden shares her support for reproductive freedom.

For days my social media feeds were full of journalists and other chronically online types sharing this quote in horror, wondering where they had gone wrong. For people so immersed in the news, it’s mind-boggling to see such a failure to grasp even the basic “who” and “what” of one of the biggest stories of the past few years. How could someone be so confused that they plan to vote for Donald J. Trump, or any Republican, in the hopes of restoring abortion rights?
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Now, it is easy to make fun of this woman (who by the end of the interview seemed ready to vote for Biden), but the disturbing thing is there are probably a lot of people out there like her. They’re the famed “independent” or “swing” voters who political campaigns obsess about winning over, and chances are they are not purposefully evil or fascist or even immersed in the Fox News alternate universe. They just haven’t been paying attention.

Hey, people are busy! Maybe they’re working three jobs in a gig economy, or maybe they just have better things to do with their free time than endlessly doomscrolling. Can’t relate, but I’m not judging. They have lives, and that sounds nice for them. But they are out there, and they are terrifying because they have the power to decide elections.

Chances are you will be sitting across from some of these terrifyingly powerful people at the dinner table this holiday season, and that might be an opportunity. The conventional wisdom is to avoid hot-button topics in polite conversation, but what if we screw the conventional wisdom? If a segment of the population isn’t reading or is actively avoiding the news, this is what it takes to reach them. The people in their lives need to talk to them directly.

Now I’m not suggesting that you confront your racist uncle or argue with your evangelical cousin about when life begins. What would be the point of that? You don’t even have to try to persuade anyone because abortion rights are already hugely popular. We just need people who care about it to vote and to vote for the right people.

A recent Wall Street Journal poll found support for abortion rights is at near-record levels. Roughly 55% of Americans support a person’s unrestricted right to choose, any time, for any reason—including about a third of Republicans and more than half of independents. For years, Democrats avoided talking about reproductive rights because they feared turning off voters, but now that the damage has been done, recent election victories have proven that this is a hugely winning issue for them. It’s far from the only important issue these days, but it’s one that drives a lot of voters to the polls.

So far that hasn’t really translated into support for Biden. There are various reasons for that, but it’s not helping that people still weirdly talk about Trump like he’s a moderate on abortion in spite of the fact that he proudly takes credit for enabling bans by appointing three conservative justices to the Supreme Court.

“I was able to do something that nobody thought was possible, end Roe v. Wade,” Trump bragged on Truth Social. “For 52 years, people talked, spent vast amounts of money, but couldn’t get the job done. I got the job done!” Maybe we don’t focus on this as much because of all the criminal indictments and fascist threats, but he’s been very clear about where he stands!

Now doesn’t that sound like some excellent material for catching up with relatives you haven’t seen in months?

Okay, maybe not at the dinner table, but it might be worth considering over the next year until the election taking some of those opportunities as they come, to interact with people outside our usual orbits. You don’t have to start an argument or a confrontation, just talk about what’s going on in the world and try to raise some awareness among people who might not be as glued to the news cycle about abortion or whatever issue suits you and the situation. Maybe ask a question and have an inquisitive conversation that leads someone to their own realization, like the New York Times reporter did.

I know, I know, talking to people. I hate the idea too.

But what’s the worst that could happen? Well, for starters, there’s the possibility of another Trump presidency, a national abortion ban, and the end of democracy as we know it, so there’s all that. In that context, the prospect of having some uncomfortable conversations maybe doesn’t seem so bad, even to this socially awkward introvert.
 
Why would people support ban on abortions? If not for abortions we would've had more people like her and more junkies, bums and scizos.
Serious answer (I'm a Communist):

because legal abortion affects the reproductive behavior of different groups differently. More whoring and fewer babies from the more conscientious and responsible people, business as usual from junkies, bums and skitzos, and no popular support for societal child support. In fact whoring is a major cause of junkies, bums and skitzos. Every first-world nation (in the original sense, the winners of the Cold War) can afford to ban abortion with exceptions for rape, incest, life of mother, and tard babies.
 
I wonder if the average abortion enthusiast would accept the following trade: legalize abortion but ban SSRIs
 
Why do journos always write like people will either be sympathetic or even tolerant of their views?
Because they live in a bubble where that's their reality - they've long since excised anyone who could disagree in the slightest and doesn't weep over reaction vids on YouTube.

Only their blood relations remain connected to their lives while still having one contrary view.

Everyone else who disagreed with them, even slightly, was put on their ban list and blocked from their life in college.
 
I bet the writer of this article heard "look who finally crawled out here!" every Thanksgiving.
Why the fuck do some people look forward to causing political arguments at Thanksgiving? Why would you want to argue with your family? Twitter-brained morons that have literally nothing else to talk about bore me. None of my family members do this shit.
 
The pro-life relatives could always up the arms race by carrying medical diagrams of the abortion procedure, if you really want to disgust your loved ones for the sake of scoring political points.
 
they're one of the dumbest fucking birds alive and basically exist to be eaten by predators, doing what we do to them is a mercy as far as I'm concerned. I'm so tired of them wandering onto my property, wild, literally begging to be devoured. Not a drop of irony or sarcasm.
Somehow they manage to survive as a species better than Quail in the face of the coyote population expanding. But yes, they are retarded, and somehow I find their retardation endearing.
 
All i ask from the idiots who do this is to record it and post it on the internet. I always wondered holier than thou people if they came from normal families or equally insufferable cunts . Also is entertainment to watch people yell at each other over politics
 
Well these things are usually chance to catch up about your achievements of the year and what's happening in your life with your wider family. That means they would need to sit silently with nothing to say so fuck it upend the table and ruin it for everyone who actually likes their life.
 
Look, Susie, nobody at the table wants to hear about your haunted womb that's simultaneously the site of a gang bang and a mass murder.

Just pretend the turkey leg is a cock and choke on it for an hour or so while the rest of us enjoy the day and you can go home to your cats and blog about how terrible we all are.
 
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