- Joined
- Oct 27, 2021
Jeff? Or Kelly? Bc Kelly (as of the date of the piece) wasn't a stalker (first actually attended concert of Tiffany's was during the filming), just weirdly obsessed. Jeff, on the other hand, had gotten a legal 3-year "stay tf away from her" years beforehand. And Jeff had Aspergers (per the film/total rainman type, though not particularly savant-ish, just an obsessive, cataloging mind, and also kind of a self-centered asshole). If you haven't watched it, it's worth a view.This is one stalker that should definitely Enjoy Prison.
My dad (80) joined up during Vietnam and went on remote tours but did not go there.'Nam lasted a long ass time, Indochina fell in 1955, and we didn't pull out until Saigon fell in '75, most people think it was a 1960's war because of the music associated with it but Vietnam was the Boomers Afghanistan.
Ended the same way too.
Watching the chaos of our pull out from Afghan after Biden fucked up the withdrawal plan was like watching old news footage of the Fall of Saigon.
In fact I think Kabul was worse, we didn't leave millions of dollars of shit for the Gooks.
A lot of people in my generation had Dads and Uncles who were served in Vietnam. My Dad wasn't but my Uncle was.
Agree Kabul withdrawal was sloppier, but Afghanistan had just a fraction of the cultural influence in the US vis-à-vis Vietnam. Afghanistan was relatively peripheral for the US in general, whereas Vietnam involvement was a whole national/ cultural engagement. None of our military actions since Vietnam have been so central to cultural and civilian life. (Korea was also not so central, albeit moreso than Iraq and Afghanistan). It takes a lot to galvanize this country.