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All across America, marriage, sexuality and relationships are on the steady decline among young people. According to a new Pew Research study, 63% percent of men aged 18 to 29 report being single. That means the number of single young men is nearly twice that of single young women, indicating a large breakdown in the social, romantic and sexual lives of American men. The big question is: Why?

One would think that making romantic connections would be easier than ever in our digital world, but the opposite is true. Our culture of convenience has paradoxically made dating more difficult for men as they are forced into a hyper-competitive, superficial environment that emphasizes instant gratification over true human connection. While there are several potential culprits causing this relationship breakdown, nothing has done more damage to the dating landscape than dating apps, social media and pornography.

Let’s start with dating apps. The advent of relationship websites started with Match.com in 1995 and evolved into the swipe-based platforms we know today with Tinder and Hinge releasing in 2012, and Bumble in 2014.

According to a survey of 6,034 adults, 53% of adults ages 18-29 have found someone to date through an app or site. However, new Census data shows that the U.S. marriage rate hit an all-time low in 2019. For every 1,000 unmarried adults, only 33 got married. This number was 35 a decade ago in 2010 and much higher at 86% in 1970. So, what gives?

It’s easier for men to date, thanks to technological conveniences, yet this technology has created a counterintuitive situation leading them to have a fickle attitude toward relationships, constantly searching for the next thing instead of committing to one person.

With the abundance of choices on dating apps, young men are finding it difficult to build deeper connections with a single person due to that sense of constant availability. When a minor red flag appears in a relationship that is otherwise going smoothly, why stick around and work it out when thousands of other choices are right at your fingertips? Young men are making that calculation every day on dating apps and are siding with the latter. How can you blame them with the constant programming coming from social media?

With social media today, men can scroll through their feeds and popular pages to view more beautiful women in one sitting than most men would see in their lifetime a hundred years ago.
Social media vies for people's attention leading women to commercialize themselves, which gives men an unrealistic expectation of the dating pool. On social media, people are encouraged to only show their best, even if it’s fake! With the advancements in facial-recognition technology, many times men are looking at women through heavily filtered and airbrushed lenses.

While women reap the benefit of the online attention, men are left wondering how the dating pool has gotten so far out of reach. Consequently, those same women who are marketing themselves as something they’re not are left without a partner and wondering where all the good men have gone. Through social media, both sexes are conditioned to treat themselves as a number instead of embracing true human connection and partnership.

Maybe I’m just old-fashioned, but to me, flirting face-to-face leaves a bigger impression on the potential for a relationship than reacting to girls’ Instagram Stories with the flame emoji. Coupled with the barrage of women on dating apps, the culture of constant comparison fostered by social media makes it hard for men to commit to a relationship and settle down. If that wasn’t enough, now even men’s greatest source of dating motivation has been co-opted by pornography.

There is no doubt that lust, which is carnal in nature, is the strongest driving motivation for men when it comes to dating. It sparks initial attraction and passion and draws people together. Ultimately though, lust may fade, but the emotional connection typically built upon that initial sense of attraction is what can determine a relationship’s success.

Pornography, however, completely destroys this dynamic, because it shifts men’s reward system to simply being carnal and physical in nature but lacking the emotional connection necessary for healthy relationships. Today, pornography is easier than ever to consume. Forty million U.S. adults regularly visit pornography websites, and 10% of U.S. adults admit to having an addiction to Internet pornography.
It’s easier for men to date thanks to technological conveniences, yet this technology has created a counterintuitive situation leading them to have a fickle attitude toward relationships, constantly searching for the next thing instead of committing to one person.
Research shows that about 67% of 13-year-old boys have seen at least one pornographic image on some sort of digital device in the past year, and by the age of 18, that number rises to 90%.

In porn, finding a "relationship" is effortless. With porn, this digital partner has nothing else to do but wait for you, please you and give you exactly what you think you want. If this partner ever fails to keep you entertained, they can be exchanged with a single click. Why waste your time dating, flirting and putting in effort when men can have their deepest sexual desires met online?

Today, men in their 20s are more likely than women to be romantically uninvolved, sexually dormant and friendless. Studies have shown that men are more likely to engage in risky and violent behaviors when they lack a stable relationship, leading to higher crime rates, substance abuse and social unrest. Single men may also be less invested in building strong social networks, leading to isolation and a lack of community engagement.

Simply put, the breakdown of relationships between men and women is startling, and it is detrimental to a healthy society. The good news is that men can fix this, and the remedy is easier than we think. Leave dating apps, stop watching porn, and go talk to girls in real life.
 
There's a show called "dating on the spectrum" that you might find interesting as someone who recently announced their autistic.

Touch grass and don't get hung up on not getting pussy. Life's short. The internet isn't real. None of this matters, so quit being a faggot and do something that makes you happy.

And that thing that you may be thinking of that makes you happy is just a dopamine release, happy people don't obsess over theories that exist to justify their self centered world view, or say gay shit like "I am Gen z"
 
Especially because this brainwashed idiot seems to be ignoring that Women gatekeep what is "normal" in dating.
If dating is abnormal, it is because women have made it that way.

Show me a woman that's "ready to settle down" and I'll show you a shrew on the edge of infertility.
At the end of the day, the political benefits of social media in uncovering and fighting corruption are arguably not worth the social corruption of deluding every woman on the planet into thinking she's going to be the one to net "Chad Everitt Thundercock III" and his millions.
I mean, I don't exactly feel like writing a five-seven paragraph effort post on the topic at the moment but I would hardly blame women, or men, for the current state of affairs.

This shit is a result of decades of social engineering and monkeying with shit all tied into each other leading to the current socioeconomic, cultural, and even legal climate that gives everyone from the himbos and thots to the normal people in both sexes a lot of issues in romantic endeavors that will lead to something resembling a healthy long-term relationship.

I've made plenty of posts about the topic the TL;DR is it's a problem with no solution. Any attempt at a solution will at best have no effect.
Touch grass and don't get hung up on not getting pussy. Life's short. The internet isn't real. None of this matters, so quit being a faggot and do something that makes you happy.
This ought to be on a digital plaque you have to click through to access the internet when first loading any web browser. Not that people would read it but it'd at least be amusing.
 
the rise of autism in young men and how it negatively effects the dating market.

Before social media deluded every woman on the planet into thinking they're going to net "Elon Musk minus 20 years of age", those same women would be picking out those autists in early life as the hyper-focus of aspergers translates broadly into higher pay and better professional advancement later in life. (in other words, the rock-steady provider archetype society requires for stability)
I mean, I don't exactly feel like writing a five-seven paragraph effort post on the topic at the moment but I would hardly blame women, or men, for the current state of affairs.

This shit is a result of decades of social engineering and monkeying with shit all tied into each other leading to the current socioeconomic, cultural, and even legal climate that gives everyone from the himbos and thots to the normal people in both sexes a lot of issues in romantic endeavors that will lead to something resembling a healthy long-term relationship.

I've made plenty of posts about the topic the TL;DR is it's a problem with no solution. Any attempt at a solution will at best have no effect.

This ought to be on a digital plaque you have to click through to access the internet when first loading any web browser. Not that people would read it but it'd at least be amusing.
Every abrahamic religion is saturated with warnings against the hedonism that is considered "normal" now.
As people seek out a return to proper Christianity in the west, however, every organized denomination is actively being corrupted.
This virtually guarantees the rise of Islam across the west.

We have a global, digital Gomorrah of a society now, and I hope everyone is ready because if trends continue every pious man is going to be saying "Allahu Akbar"
 
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It’s easier for men to date, thanks to technological conveniences, yet this technology has created a counterintuitive situation leading them to have a fickle attitude toward relationships, constantly searching for the next thing instead of committing to one person.
thats women. They know that within 15 minutes of a breakup they have at least a few dudes they've been DMing. If their boyfriend doesn't meet a list of demands then they're already searching for a guy that does.
With the abundance of choices on dating apps, young men are finding it difficult to build deeper connections with a single person due to that sense of constant avavailability
That's women, again. They keep posting their ass on social media because they like to keep their options open. This article is honestly so damn one sided
With social media today, men can scroll through their feeds and popular pages to view more beautiful women in one sitting than most men would see in their lifetime a hundred years ago.
And the same is easily said for women. Their feed is women being taken to exotic cruises and they feel entitled to it. And of course women seem to believe being taken on one yacht and fucked means the guy is exclusive to them, only to be pumped and dumped.


Studies have shown that men are more likely to engage in risky and violent behaviors when they lack a stable relationship, leading to higher crime rates, substance abuse and social unrest
They don't give a shit about single lonely men, they just realize it's not a good thing if instead of taking out their anger on regular people one will eventually aim at the elite
 
Every abrahamic religion is saturated with warnings against the hedonism that is considered "normal" now.
Sure. The practice of gift-giving on Christmas also used to be a niche germanic tradition.
As people seek out a return to proper Christianity in the west, however, every organized denomination is actively being corrupted.
This virtually guarantees the rise of Islam across the west.

We have a global, digital Gomorrah of a society now, and I hope everyone is ready because if trends continue every pious man is going to be saying "Allahu Akbar"
The people who are "seeking out a return to proper Christianity" aren't doing so because they're pious from what I've seen, they're doing it as the right-wing version of fucking trannyism - it's a trendy identity favorable to their in-group. Just look at all the "cHrIsT iS kAnG!!1!" bullshit.

And the "global, digital Gomorrah" comment misses the mark. The internet arguably is just an extension of the society itself, not the root cause of any of what you're seeing. Making the idiocy and degradation of culture/people more visible doesn't mean that it suddenly had an upsurge in its ubiquity, only that you're more aware of it.

The idea "every pious man is going to be saying Allahu Akbar" is as much a logical non-sequitur as saying that all heterosexual men who want relationships but can't attain them are going to be finding comfort in the hairy arms of their fellow travelers. The people who'd even be considered pious, which to be frank I'm pretty sure that's not how piety works to begin with but to follow what is apparently your usage of the word here, aren't going to turn to Islam because of muh traditionalism or whatever. If people become Islamic converts it's due to their affinity for the religion itself not just some perceived notion of "trad" teachings. Islam isn't some far-east pseudo-philosophical religion you can just take on like a new set of pronouns.
 
So opting out is "childish" now? JFC. We really can't win, can we?
The author is the mature, sober type of conservative who thinks we can man up and will the mores of the 1950s back into existence. You'd think a free market conservative would know when the market has rejected something, the answer is not to do more of it. The old sales model doesn't work. Customers aren't buying it. You have to at least consider where the customers went and why.
 
The MGTOW, incels and femcels all have the same "You can't fire me, I quit!" mentality. They remind me of a kid that ran away from home and is pissed off that his parents aren't out looking for him.
Considering articles like the above and the reaction to passport bros, I think they looking for them. I expect talk of a bachelor tax soon that can be bypassed by military service.
This is functionally illegal.
"Good men" would be met either hard at work or at worship.
"Sexual harassment" laws have turned flirting at work into a game of russian roulette with your career, and organized religion is nose-diving faster than flight 92 because of churches going woke.

At the top 20 I attended back in college, I remember overhearing all the girls on my vast dormitory floor lamenting the "boys" in my college for seeking serious, long-term relationships rarther than flings,, and everyone nodding in agreement at the de-facto boycott of the local guys for doing this.

This is the state of the dating pool quite some time ago, and mind you the "dregs" of this "dating pool" were considered "upper middle class", with a wide selection of wealthy brats of dignitaries and executives to choose from. No wonder there is a crisis in fertility and matrimony now.
I've only tried online dating during covid amd quickly left. I do agree that in person is better and many men are scared to be labeled a creep, but in person is definitely easier in building something. Most women only seem vein because those are the whores on social media
The author is the mature, sober type of conservative who thinks we can man up and will the mores of the 1950s back into existence.
The author is a Prager U person, meaning that they're only worried about Israel
 
The people who are "seeking out a return to proper Christianity" aren't doing so because they're pious from what I've seen, they're doing it as the right-wing version of fucking trannyism - it's a trendy identity favorable to their in-group. Just look at all the "cHrIsT iS kAnG!!1!" bullshit.
It is the cultural root of western civilization, and its fundamental righteousness is more self-evident the further from its teachings our society drifts:
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And the "global, digital Gomorrah" comment misses the mark. The internet arguably is just an extension of the society itself, not the root cause of any of what you're seeing.
No. "Society" was constructed and socially ordered under Christianity to restrain human original sin, not proliferate it.
Friedrich Nietzsche warned of the accelerating trend toward this eventuality back in his time, but it's impossible to deny how fundamentally inverted the rules of our society have become over the past 20 years.
Between 2004 and 2024, we have gone from a society of arguably eroding restraint of human sin to one of encouragement of that sin and open persecution of those who would oppose it.
Prime example: anyone running on a "pro looting" platform would be absolute pariahs in 2004. Anyone running to stop the looting in 2024 is now denied banking via government machination.

Your characterizing of anyone rational enough to examine their own empirical observations as "trannies" reeks of elitism.
If you claim to be a man of the faith you should question why you rain ridicule on those flocking to the word just because they happened to be late to the party, especially as they return to the faith to find their temples infested by "money changers" and ironically face the ire of the corrupt clergy as they pull out their whips.
 
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You think men don't have complaints about women from every generation?

You think women don't complain about everything from every generation?
Women in previous generations couldn't have a man stripped of his assets and/or jailed because she later regretted a date/consentual sexual encounter because he was "creepy/icky/an incel/nazi"
 
The big question is: Why?
Because thanks to social media, every woman under 30 is either fucking the same top 10% of guys, or is too unattractive to fuck those same guys, but has been conditioned to think that she deserves to fuck those guys.
For every 1,000 unmarried adults, only 33 got married. This number was 35 a decade ago in 2010 and much higher at 86% in 1970.
That's not how percentages work. Doesn't anyone ever proofread? Aren't editors a thing any more?
Maybe I’m just old-fashioned, but to me, flirting face-to-face leaves a bigger impression on the potential for a relationship
Yeah, but men know that it's not just a simple rejection that you face if you ask her out and she says no, if you're in a workplace, you can destroy your career, and if you're in a casual setting, you might end up on social media being called a "creep".
Marriage only benefits women nowadays.
I've seen so many of my friends lose nearly everything that they worked their whole lives for because their wives decided at 40, 45, or even in her 50s decide that she's bored, knows that she can take half of all the financial assets, and the kids, and leave her ex-husband stuck with child support payments and/or alimony. These same delusional women seem to think that it will be easy to find another quality man to start a relationship with once she's on her own again, neglecting to consider three things:

1: You've hit the wall, and very few younger men are interested in fucking a woman who looks like you and comes with a ton of baggage.

2. Men, to a point, become more distinguished as they age. It's not unusual, even in Western societies, to see a woman in her early 30s with a guy in his late 40s or even early 50s, provided that he has taken care of his body and health. Men in the typical divorcee's age bracket don't want you, they want women who are still attractive, and they can still get them in a lot of cases.

3. Even if you can find a somewhat attractive guy your own age, your chances of ever remarrying are about 0%. What man in his right mind would volunteer to be victim #2 of a woman who already has a track record of fucking over a man they were married to?
 
It is the cultural root of western civilization, and its fundamental righteousness is more self-evident the further from its teachings our society drifts:
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I challenge you to explain how what you quoted in any way shape or form is a statement challenging any of what I'm quoting here.
No. "Society" was constructed and socially ordered under Christianity to restrain human original sin, not proliferate it.
Friedrich Nietzsche warned of the accelerating trend toward this eventuality back in his time, but it's impossible to deny how fundamentally inverted the rules of our society have become over the past 20 years.
Between 2004 and 2024, we have gone from a society of arguably eroding restraint of human sin to one of encouragement of that sin and open persecution of those who would oppose it.
First of all, the problem is older than that. Much older. Marking 2004 as the date the decline started speaks to your ignorance on the topic.

Second of all, saying society "was constructed and socially ordered under Christianity" is an incorrect and insulting statement of historical, theological, and cultural ignorance so fucking profound I'd not even know where to start responding to it in a manner that I would find sufficient.

Brother "tail wagging the dog" doesn't begin to cover it. "Cart before the horse" doesn't either.
Your characterizing of anyone rational enough to examine their own empirical observations as "trannies" reeks of elitism.
If you claim to be a man of the faith you should question why you rain ridicule on those flocking to the word just because they happened to be late to the party.

Actually fucking read what I typed out a few times and recognize that, just because I didn't use pansy-assed qualifiers like "#NotAll" "#JustTheWorst" doesn't mean I fucking meant everybody in that group. I very obviously was talking about a certain group of people who - whether you fucking like it or not - are a major outspoken part of those "seeking out a return to proper Christianity" and are most definitely the kind of person who'd fucking convert to Islam, you know, the kind of person you talked about in the post I was quoting.
 
First of all, the problem is older than that. Much older.
I recommend you look up the Birth and Death dates of Friedrich Nietzsche before lobbing accusations.
Marking 2004 as the date the decline started speaks to your ignorance on the topic.
How about you read what I said again.
There is a difference between erosion and inversion of society's fundations.
I suggest you learn it.
Second of all, saying society "was constructed and socially ordered under Christianity" is an incorrect and insulting statement of historical, theological, and cultural ignorance so fucking profound I'd not even know where to start responding to it in a manner that I would find sufficient.
Your post already drips of pride and wrath.
Actually fucking read what I typed out a few times and recognize that, just because I didn't use pansy-assed qualifiers like "#NotAll" "#JustTheWorst" doesn't mean I fucking meant everybody in that group.
Yes, I'm aware from your past 2 posts of your projection, but this absolutely locks it down:
YOU are the one using Christianity as an identity akin to Trannyism, to elevate yourself as "special" and above those unwashed "thems"

Christianity is not an "Identity", it is the objective moral bedrock of God's order.
Objective being the important operative word here.
It is empirically undeniable, and the further from God's order we travel, the more people notice.
Smearing those who notice and seek the word as "trannies" is outrageous.
 
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I recommend you look up the Birth and Death dates of Friedrich Nietzsche before lobbing accusations.
I said that in the context of the modern American cultural landscape that we're discussing.
How about you read what I said again.
There is a difference between erosion and inversion of society's fundations.
I suggest you learn it.
No, I'd rather you explain to me what your conceptualization is of this supposed difference and how it's a distinct phenomenon unconnected to the root causes I've alluded to but admittedly not named yet.

Because you seem to have a particular worldview and an inability to handle it being challenged whatsoever. I'm curious and eager to hear what exactly you think started all of this shit and how you justify marking 2004 as the starting date.
Your post already drips of pride and wrath.
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Your posts have dripped of a lack of reading comprehension. The irony of this statement isn't lost on me, that you're using the biblical sin of pride in an accusatory tone when you're so wrapped up in your incorrect, ignorant interpretation of these issues that it's quite literally blinding you to what's being said in response to you is spectacular.
Yes, I'm aware from your past 2 posts of your projection, but this absolutely locks it down:
YOU are the one using Christianity as an identity akin to Trannyism, to elevate yourself as "special" and above those unwashed "thems"
Again, read what I said. Four or five times if you need to, perhaps even calm the fuck down beforehand so you'll stop reading what you want to see into my statements rather than engaging with what I've actually said so far.
 
I clicked on the article to see what Fox news readers commented and.... it's gone.
An article so bad, they deleted it quickly.
They probably realized that this crap goes against the main target demos of their network.
Fox News doesn't care about their actual viewers.
They demonstrated that quite clearly when they fired Tucker.
Their primary purpose is to act as a propaganda arm and afflict aging boomers with neocon blinders for as long as possible, regardless of how much they lose financially and in ratings.
No, I'd rather you explain to me what your conceptualization is of this supposed difference and how it's a distinct phenomenon unconnected to the root causes I've alluded to but admittedly not named yet.
The difference was so simple I thought it to be self-evident.
Erosion: Reducing penalties for sinful behavior, but still punishing it, and protecting any would-be victims from it.
Inversion: Actively rewarding sinful behavior, punishing any would-be victims of that behavior, and punishing anyone who advocates for a stop to that behavior.

It's very clear we went from "Erosion" to "Inversion" over the past 20 years.
 
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