Plagued Consoomers / Consoomer Culture - Because if it has a recogniseable brand on it, I’d buy it!

Cuntspiracy Man said:
>implying it's not acually some indian pretending to be AI because that'll appeal to the masses more
everyone is so sick of telemarketers now but seem to love this "oh mah gawd the machine knows what i want!" shit
whats the likelyhood that actual people, well, let's be honest, probably foreign immigrants paid in pennies and punches on their punchout tickets on the way towards earning that visa, are gonna be made to chat with consumers and say they're AI
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Instead of a Mechanical Turk, we'd have an Artificial Pajeet?
 
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cybertoaster said:
I've never found old furniture on those stores that wasn't all beaten up and needing restoration, and when its in good shape it costs as much as a new one.

Gays ruined that market, they overpay for anything.
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A lot of my furniture is from when our library was remodeling. Kind of funny how my kitchen table is the same one I did homework on as a kid. I think the only new piece of furniture I've bought was this shitty desk that I use to hold my tax documents and even then it was a waste of money. Everything else I have is thrifted or out of the trash. Got my bookcases from behind a Catholic school.

College campuses at the end of the semester are an absolute gold mine btw. If you get something that has fabric I recommend wrapping it in black trash bags and sticking it outside for a few days in the summer to kill bugs with heat.
 
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I get a good laugh out of anti-capitalist/late stage capitalism videos and discussions when people are so damaged by consoomerism they have no acknowledgment of free will. You don't have to follow the psychological behavior a company wants you to, there is nothing stopping you from say buying an old android phone and keeping it for 10 years.
 
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Mark Goldbridge said:
I get a good laugh out of anti-capitalist/late stage capitalism videos and discussions when people are so damaged by consoomerism they have no acknowledgment of free will. You don't have to follow the psychological behavior a company wants you to, there is nothing stopping you from say buying an old android phone and keeping it for 10 years.
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people completely conflate capitalism with consumerism or post industrialisation
capitalism is the market system, it's how you can do nothing but own pigs and still be able to acquire milk, cloth or gold via the free market
consumerism and industrialisation is how we got to the point where the pigs aren't yours, their meat is near worthless and you can't afford anything for them
 
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glass_houses said:
My rat cage, which was top of the line when I bought it fifteen years ago, has a surface rust problem that is slowly spreading. It's a common problem with rat cages because rat urine is very corrosive. All the cage needs is to be sand blasted and powder coated, and it'll be good for another fifteen years.

Well, it's going to be much cheaper just to replace the cage entirely. I don't want to do that though, this cage is no longer being manufactured and the current top of the line cage just isn't that great. It's really pissing me off. The cage is looking pretty manky even though it is perfectly sound. I'm trying to find someone who could sandblast it for cheap but I'm not having any luck. This is too good a cage to just replace with a nicer looking but lower quality one.
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You could probably get away with a steel wooling/sandpapering and a decent coat of paint . Just make sure the paint is fully cured before you place the rats back in it, otherwise it could get into their systems
 
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NoReturn said:
Planned obsolescence, but that's about it.
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Even then, that seems to be more of a problem with Apple products. They overprice them, overprice you on repairs (which they try to make you legally obliged to go to them for), and then make them become irrepairably shitty so that you buy their new one.

Basically: buy new product, and if you don't get excited for new product we'll just make you buy the new one :)
 
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Kiwi Kitty 2.0 said:
Even then, that seems to be more of a problem with Apple products. They overprice them, overprice you on repairs (which they try to make you legally obliged to go to them for), and then make them become irrepairably shitty so that you buy their new one.

Basically: buy new product, and if you don't get excited for new product we'll just make you buy the new one :)
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It will depend on the android as well.Short version is after about 5 years even the nerdiest free android OS made by mouth breathers online stops supporting a lot of models especially if they aren't popular, so you will stop getting updates including security ones. Apps as well, so you'd have to start side loading those to see if they still work. The newest stuff is so bloated they eventually start requiring hardware upgrades to even remotely function. If you only use it as a dumb phone without the smart part it'd be fine probably.

The only android I'm aware of that guarantees X number of years and versions of support are the Google Pixels. I think Pixel 8s are seven years official support, before I believe it was 5.
 
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NoReturn said:
Planned obsolescence, but that's about it.
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I have an old iPhone 4 I now use as a mp3 player only, it's 11 or 12 years old and it still works well even if it's from Apple, the king of planned obsolescence. It still connects with my pc's iTunes without problems (of course I stopped updating them over the internet ages ago). Sometimes the front button doesn't want to work, but there's a workaround thanks to the accessibility features creating a virtual button on the touch screen. In all these years I only had to change the charging cable twice and the earphones once a few months ago, and only because I was a klutz and I stepped on them with my shoes.
 
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Kiwi Kitty 2.0 said:
Even then, that seems to be more of a problem with Apple products. They overprice them, overprice you on repairs (which they try to make you legally obliged to go to them for), and then make them become irrepairably shitty so that you buy their new one.

Basically: buy new product, and if you don't get excited for new product we'll just make you buy the new one :)
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Its true they overprice like crazy and their propietary autism but planned obsolence is actually worse on Android. Apple actually do relatively well with longevity. Apple consoomers don't need to change their iphone every year, they still do it because they want to

NoReturn said:
Planned obsolescence, but that's about it.
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I'd still have the same smartphone from 10 years ago if i could. They start crapping out around the 4 or 5 years mark.
 
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Ammyterasu said:
I have an old iPhone 4 I now use as a mp3 player only, it's 11 or 12 years old and it still works well even if it's from Apple, the king of planned obsolescence. It still connects with my pc's iTunes without problems (of course I stopped updating them over the internet ages ago). Sometimes the front button doesn't want to work, but there's a workaround thanks to the accessibility features creating a virtual button on the touch screen. In all these years I only had to change the charging cable twice and the earphones once a few months ago, and only because I was a klutz and I stepped on them with my shoes.
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I still have my second generation ipod and a couple of the older nanos. I upgraded the ipod to use SD cards. If it ever dies I will just go and buy another used one. The interface is simple, easy to use, and customizable. It's my trusty black brick.
 
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Mark Goldbridge said:
I get a good laugh out of anti-capitalist/late stage capitalism videos and discussions when people are so damaged by consoomerism they have no acknowledgment of free will. You don't have to follow the psychological behavior a company wants you to, there is nothing stopping you from say buying an old android phone and keeping it for 10 years.
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An old phone might not be able to connect to a 4G VoLTE/5G network, especially if you put an open source firmware on it and you don't have the requisite binary blob. And you'll probably have problems with the charging port before the ten year mark, maybe the screen, too. Then you have to find a source for batteries, since old phone batteries tend to not hold a charge or they blow up like a balloon, sometimes damaging the phone itself. And you have to keep your software up to date, for security if for no other reason. Eventually, your hardware will be unsupported or too puny to run modern software.
 
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Standardized Profile said:
An old phone might not be able to connect to a 4G VoLTE/5G network, especially if you put an open source firmware on it and you don't have the requisite binary blob. And you'll probably have problems with the charging port before the ten year mark, maybe the screen, too. Then you have to find a source for batteries, since old phone batteries tend to not hold a charge or they blow up like a balloon, sometimes damaging the phone itself. And you have to keep your software up to date, for security if for no other reason. Eventually, your hardware will be unsupported or too puny to run modern software.
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Sure but my point is that you don't NEED 4G or 5G, a lot of modern "requirements" are mostly coming from marketing
 
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Mark Goldbridge said:
Sure but my point is that you don't NEED 4G or 5G, a lot of modern "requirements" are mostly coming from marketing
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Where I'm from, 3G networks have been shut down a couple years ago, so no 4G or 5G means no mobile internet. Which, sure, works, but at that point I don't see why anyone would bother with a smartphone at all.
 
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