Are you lost needing femoid advice post here - For the poor bastard's who dare or are just curious

[Tablet County]

You should not be seeking advice from the sort of women that post on KF.

You shouldn't be seeking advice from anybody on KF while you're at it.

 

[Flaming_Barghast]

I mean, I can relate in the sense that I don't think "femoids" would respond positively to any of my interests. I always thought acting boring would work out better for me.

(I'm married but I'll answer this non question) I do woodwork, have an interest in cars and guns, like cooking/grilling and several other masculine hobbies yet am a woman. My dad sews, cooks, bakes, hunts, can do carpentry and has the best fucking needlework I have EVER seen, even against old grandmas. He also is a master marksman on both bows and rifles, does his own tanning, and skiis.
A non traditional hobby is FAR from a deal breaker, just be open to also doing non traditional hobbies yourself.

 

[Flaming_Barghast]

Is it really 'mostly no'? Is there no mirror female population of catladies and femcel outcasts? Is it a uniquely dude issue? It's a genuine question.

It *happens* but isn't common. Women by nature are more prone to group thinking and want to fit into their peer groups, so they learn what is and isn't acceptable. If you have a mother or sister figure, they usually help with that. Girls that don't follow these norms usually have a personality disorder, autism, or a fucked up home life. I'm sure there's many more now thanks to the internet, but it's an incredibly small percentage.
I see it as- the equivilant of mens anti social behavioral problems would be women who don't want to grow up. See- munchies or anorexics. It's far, FAR more common for women to have these than men, but they still happen to men. Still, when you think of anorexia or munchies, you probably picture a woman, just as 'incel' brings young men specifically to mind.

 

[Yamamura]

I will never understand people who have no interests or hobbies. There are so many fucking things out there in the world how is it even possible to be interested in nothing? Like how much of an absolute braindead NPC of a human being must you be to have no interests or hobbies you could possibly discuss with someone else?

Just say you're a "gamer". Most people who use that as their identity have nothing going on with them to more or less the same degree. In the 90s the equivalent was watching TV and talking about the show you saw last night.

There are loads of these sorts of people just wandering aimlessly through life.

 

[Susanna]

Having "no interests outside of work" sounds so unbearably uninteresting like I'm picturing a guy who comes home from the office and sits on his single boxspring cot and stares quietly at the wall until it's time to sleep.

It really gives this apartment vibes.

It's not automatically a bad thing, but it does raise some red flags. I would be depressed as hell living in this apartment, and I would be depressed as hell living without any activities, so I'm going to think you've got mental health issues. I don't even think you can cast it as "it gives me more time to spend with you", because while I do think "Oh, you're into X? I'd love to tag along some time to try it out" is a good idea I still want to hear about what you're into first, and if you can't say anything I'd just nope out. Absolutely don't say "I'm a gamer", though. I play video games too, but actually identifying as a gamer is a bigger turnoff than "I really like watching TV". Watching TV tells me you're a passive, boring person. "I'm a gamer" tells me you're also going to be mean and obnoxious once the nice guy act wears off.

If you really don't have anything, start reading. You can do it at home, it costs nothing, and it's basically the same as gaming or watching TV in that you're just sitting comfortably and being entertained. Except men who read are actually really interesting, especially if you can keep up a conversation with me on whatever I like to read.

 

[DYLAN ‘DIELAWN’ VOLK]

I also like mtg and have been drafting for around a decade.

Lame girls show up to draft all the time pretending to like it or trying to learn for the exact same reason you are talking about. They have no personality or hobbies that they think they share with the opposite sex (and the guys there usually have disposable income and don't do drugs/just weed). Same with any nerd hobby tbh, D&D or Pokémon are also plagued with single posers or guys' wives trying to relate to them. My husband taught me Magic and I think it's boring and gay but working with nerd stuff in general I've noticed that there is no lack of desperate boring women showing up.

 

[BlaireWhitesBottom2]

I think the femoids of Kiwifarms are the only ones anti-social enough to give Anon the unvarnished truth and not give a shit about his feelings. If he asked this shit on reddit, he'd just get endless platitudes about "Just be yourself sweety" from Men pretending to be women. If he did it on 4chan, the bots would just show Blacked porn and tell him to just accept the BBC.

fucking mutts law man.. it really is true too!

 

[mindlessobserver]

Well yeah, it's 4chan. That's what the /pol/ board is for. Posting pictures of big black dick

 

[Shidoen]

It really gives this apartment vibes.
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It's not automatically a bad thing, but it does raise some red flags. I would be depressed as hell living in this apartment, and I would be depressed as hell living without any activities, so I'm going to think you've got mental health issues. I don't even think you can cast it as "it gives me more time to spend with you", because while I do think "Oh, you're into X? I'd love to tag along some time to try it out" is a good idea I still want to hear about what you're into first, and if you can't say anything I'd just nope out. Absolutely don't say "I'm a gamer", though. I play video games too, but actually identifying as a gamer is a bigger turnoff than "I really like watching TV". Watching TV tells me you're a passive, boring person. "I'm a gamer" tells me you're also going to be mean and obnoxious once the nice guy act wears off.

If you really don't have anything, start reading. You can do it at home, it costs nothing, and it's basically the same as gaming or watching TV in that you're just sitting comfortably and being entertained. Except men who read are actually really interesting, especially if you can keep up a conversation with me on whatever I like to read.

Just punch a hole in the wall to give the area an aura of character.

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

Is it really 'mostly no'? Is there no mirror female population of catladies and femcel outcasts? Is it a uniquely dude issue? It's a genuine question.

It's rare. That doesn't mean these women are not dysfunctional, but the whole no social life no hobbies thing isn't how women express that. For example there are plenty of weird femcels but they usually have many hobbies and female (femcel) friends, they will take part in fandom, make arts and crafts, get into books/BookTok etc, and they will be connected to and tolerated in those circles online and offline. Catladies tend to have a robust irl social circle made up of other catladies. Again, this doesn't mean that these people are in any way happy and well adjusted, but women are rarely as isolated as men can be.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Greetings foids. I have a question. Looks wise, what do women value more, body or face?

 

[Grub]

Just say you're a "gamer". Most people who use that as their identity have nothing going on with them to more or less the same degree. In the 90s the equivalent was watching TV and talking about the show you saw last night.

There are loads of these sorts of people just wandering aimlessly through life.

I realize that. I just don't understand how people can live their lives that way. Seems boring as fuck.

 

[DYLAN ‘DIELAWN’ VOLK]

Greetings foids. I have a question. Looks wise, what do women value more, body or face?

Face for me but a lot of fat women will do anything for a "not fat" husband/boyfriend because they think it makes a point. It does, but not the one they think. Aren't men like this too though? Like how Meigh is skinny but has the face she does. I don't think there is an actual answer to this question that isn't based on personal standards or the depths of one's own degeneracy. ETA I never have been with a fat guy actually so it's most likely body and I'm shallower than I thought. Fat guys usually smell bad.

 

[anliteralidiot]

Is it really 'mostly no'? Is there no mirror female population of catladies and femcel outcasts? Is it a uniquely dude issue? It's a genuine question.

I'm almost in the group, but I'm married. I have/had enough social skills to get my man, but I find it hard to meet other people IRL who could/would be friends. My interests are niche, and I'm autistic.

Greetings foids. I have a question. Looks wise, what do women value more, body or face?

Face. It's a lot of factors, but if it's a choice between body and face? Face.

 

[Fareal]

It's rare. That doesn't mean these women are not dysfunctional, but the whole no social life no hobbies thing isn't how women express that. For example there are plenty of weird femcels but they usually have many hobbies and female (femcel) friends, they will take part in fandom, make arts and crafts, get into books/BookTok etc, and they will be connected to and tolerated in those circles online and offline. Catladies tend to have a robust irl social circle made up of other catladies. Again, this doesn't mean that these people are in any way happy and well adjusted, but women are rarely as isolated as men can be.

This, absolutely.

Yes there are weird perpetually-single overly-anxious women, who are obsessed by their fandom(s), and have weird retrograde hobbies like knitting and embroidery.

They form communities so large that entire convention circuits and trade show circuits exist to cater to them. And all of them attend in at least pairs, and frequently vast groups. Entire large websites are colonised by huge groups of them all painfully fixated on one TV show or one band or one particular embroidery style.

And they meet up IRL, and talk on and offline, all the fucking time. Like, people who are deep in their fandom can easily spend 20 straight hours online constantly in conversation in groups. “Crafting tour holidays” and “craft retreats” haul 50, 100 strangers together, every week, all over the world, to do things like fucking glass painting and silk screening together.

And these women are real friends. They start off as stone cold strangers and they are real honest to God friends so fast. I am godmother to kids whose mothers I met on craft retreats and in fandom Livejournals and similar dark femoid interest oubliettes. The bonding of the weird awkward females is very real.

The difference between what I describe above and their male equivalent, Single Anime Dude, is that women are fucking brilliant at finding their tribe. I do not pretend to know why, but women are just terribly good at ferreting out the communties and groups that share their weird interests, and just turning up at them expecting to be welcomed in. And with so few exceptions I can count them, this is what happens as an iron rule.

Example: I bought a piece of craft equipment two weeks ago. By last week I had exhausted the YouTube videos on it. I asked in YT comments where I could find out more stuff. A fellow femoid invited me to a Facebook group. I then was invited to two more FB groups after befriending the members of the first group. We are meeting up as a gang this week for coffee and crafting and have booked tickets to go to a big upcoming craft show together. I have owned this device a fortnight, and now I am One Of The Gang. This is how being a femoid works.

Almost no femoid, and I do mean almost none, is considered so weird or out there by fellow femoids that she will not be welcomed and at least tolerated as a group member, if she hunts around enough groups. And a group member is a group member. Even your most annoying toxic friend is invited along places, and encouraged to talk about their feelings and other shit, and offered the support that you would offer the friends you actually like. If you are In The Gang, you’re in the gang, full membership.

I think the focus on “male loneliness” is because guys can often say things like, “I have not left the house except for work for six months/a year”, and women just don’t live like that. We hear moids say that and we think, you don’t even visit your mother? Don’t you have siblings? There’s no casual drinks after work? We just don’t live like that; our fellow femoids do not allow it. If you haven’t seen your friend or regular acquaintance out regularly, you literally call them and make a date. You do not let your fellow femoids moulder in the house. It isn’t done.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Damn. I was hoping ladies preferred body because I can't really do much about my face. Oh well.

 

[Executive Petrel]

Having "no interests outside of work" sounds so unbearably uninteresting like I'm picturing a guy who comes home from the office and sits on his single boxspring cot and stares quietly at the wall until it's time to sleep.

Fap fap.

 

[Fareal]

Damn. I was hoping ladies preferred body because I can't really do much about my face. Oh well.

Women are substantially less attracted to physical appearance alone than straight dudes. Hint: compare the culture of lesbian and gay communities.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Women are substantially less attracted to physical appearance alone than straight dudes. Hint: compare the culture of lesbian and gay communities.

I think that's probably true, just trying to cover all my bases as much as possible there.

 

[Susanna]

Damn. I was hoping ladies preferred body because I can't really do much about my face. Oh well.

It's both. I do value face over body, but body is the one I'm more strict about. You can have an ugly face and still have a chance, but you don't get any chance if you're fat. But a handsome face is much more attractive than a great body.
What I value most is things you absolutely can work on, like life quality and having a good personality. Show up to the date in a nice car, have a clean and decent apartment, work with something you like, have some interests (not ones that scream creep like anime and games, it's fine if you like those things, I do too, but don't talk about it on a date unless I bring it up first), and just be fun to talk to.