Culture I am Gen Z. Men in my generation are not dating. Why should we?

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All across America, marriage, sexuality and relationships are on the steady decline among young people. According to a new Pew Research study, 63% percent of men aged 18 to 29 report being single. That means the number of single young men is nearly twice that of single young women, indicating a large breakdown in the social, romantic and sexual lives of American men. The big question is: Why?

One would think that making romantic connections would be easier than ever in our digital world, but the opposite is true. Our culture of convenience has paradoxically made dating more difficult for men as they are forced into a hyper-competitive, superficial environment that emphasizes instant gratification over true human connection. While there are several potential culprits causing this relationship breakdown, nothing has done more damage to the dating landscape than dating apps, social media and pornography.

Let’s start with dating apps. The advent of relationship websites started with Match.com in 1995 and evolved into the swipe-based platforms we know today with Tinder and Hinge releasing in 2012, and Bumble in 2014.

According to a survey of 6,034 adults, 53% of adults ages 18-29 have found someone to date through an app or site. However, new Census data shows that the U.S. marriage rate hit an all-time low in 2019. For every 1,000 unmarried adults, only 33 got married. This number was 35 a decade ago in 2010 and much higher at 86% in 1970. So, what gives?

It’s easier for men to date, thanks to technological conveniences, yet this technology has created a counterintuitive situation leading them to have a fickle attitude toward relationships, constantly searching for the next thing instead of committing to one person.

With the abundance of choices on dating apps, young men are finding it difficult to build deeper connections with a single person due to that sense of constant availability. When a minor red flag appears in a relationship that is otherwise going smoothly, why stick around and work it out when thousands of other choices are right at your fingertips? Young men are making that calculation every day on dating apps and are siding with the latter. How can you blame them with the constant programming coming from social media?

With social media today, men can scroll through their feeds and popular pages to view more beautiful women in one sitting than most men would see in their lifetime a hundred years ago.
Social media vies for people's attention leading women to commercialize themselves, which gives men an unrealistic expectation of the dating pool. On social media, people are encouraged to only show their best, even if it’s fake! With the advancements in facial-recognition technology, many times men are looking at women through heavily filtered and airbrushed lenses.

While women reap the benefit of the online attention, men are left wondering how the dating pool has gotten so far out of reach. Consequently, those same women who are marketing themselves as something they’re not are left without a partner and wondering where all the good men have gone. Through social media, both sexes are conditioned to treat themselves as a number instead of embracing true human connection and partnership.

Maybe I’m just old-fashioned, but to me, flirting face-to-face leaves a bigger impression on the potential for a relationship than reacting to girls’ Instagram Stories with the flame emoji. Coupled with the barrage of women on dating apps, the culture of constant comparison fostered by social media makes it hard for men to commit to a relationship and settle down. If that wasn’t enough, now even men’s greatest source of dating motivation has been co-opted by pornography.

There is no doubt that lust, which is carnal in nature, is the strongest driving motivation for men when it comes to dating. It sparks initial attraction and passion and draws people together. Ultimately though, lust may fade, but the emotional connection typically built upon that initial sense of attraction is what can determine a relationship’s success.

Pornography, however, completely destroys this dynamic, because it shifts men’s reward system to simply being carnal and physical in nature but lacking the emotional connection necessary for healthy relationships. Today, pornography is easier than ever to consume. Forty million U.S. adults regularly visit pornography websites, and 10% of U.S. adults admit to having an addiction to Internet pornography.
It’s easier for men to date thanks to technological conveniences, yet this technology has created a counterintuitive situation leading them to have a fickle attitude toward relationships, constantly searching for the next thing instead of committing to one person.
Research shows that about 67% of 13-year-old boys have seen at least one pornographic image on some sort of digital device in the past year, and by the age of 18, that number rises to 90%.

In porn, finding a "relationship" is effortless. With porn, this digital partner has nothing else to do but wait for you, please you and give you exactly what you think you want. If this partner ever fails to keep you entertained, they can be exchanged with a single click. Why waste your time dating, flirting and putting in effort when men can have their deepest sexual desires met online?

Today, men in their 20s are more likely than women to be romantically uninvolved, sexually dormant and friendless. Studies have shown that men are more likely to engage in risky and violent behaviors when they lack a stable relationship, leading to higher crime rates, substance abuse and social unrest. Single men may also be less invested in building strong social networks, leading to isolation and a lack of community engagement.

Simply put, the breakdown of relationships between men and women is startling, and it is detrimental to a healthy society. The good news is that men can fix this, and the remedy is easier than we think. Leave dating apps, stop watching porn, and go talk to girls in real life.
 
The article a PragerU editorial hosted on Fox News, and it illustrated nicely how broken American conservatism is. It manages to mention marriage briefly and communicates that people not getting married is a bad thing. That makes super-hardcore alt-right Nazi in today's media landscape. This is, sadly, as close as an American conservative can get to reality. The writer cannot actually say why marriage is important, let alone the responsibility both sexes and society as a whole have toward it.

The one thing American conservatism has held onto over the last century is a Victorian-style idealization of women. Women are angels, and men are brutes. So, when it comes to the dating apps, the article paints a picture lonely, angelic women searching for The One, and fickle men who just can't settle down ruining everything for them:

Consequently, those same women who are marketing themselves as something they’re not are left without a partner and wondering where all the good men have gone.

Women are angels, men are bad, if men would just stop being so selfish, everything would be fine. That's the conservative mindset in a nutshell. Now, enough digital ink's been spilled here on how women are every bit as fickle (if not more so) as men, especially on Tinder. But what jumped out to me is the striking absence from the article, which generally takes a conservative tone, of any mention of family-building or having children. According to the article, the epidemic of singleness is bad for little reason other than it makes everyone emotionally unhealthy. But a society of emotionally healthy, childless people is just one that will die with a smile on its face.

Not too long ago, conservatives followed the liberal shift in language about love, largely replacing "family" with "relationships," "marriage" with "dating," and "children" with "happiness." Men and women don't meet to get married, form a family, and have children. They meet to date, have relationship, and find happiness. Oh sure, if they want to get married and have kids, sure, but only if that's what they know for certain what will make them happy (22-year-olds are very good at predicting what will make them happy at age 45). And really, it's just really not right to ruin a young woman's best, most carefree years by pressuring her to settle down (pressure is bad, young people are not retards who need to be pressured into making good choices). She'll get married when the mysteries of fate decide the time is right.

Conservatives won't allow themselves to question the roots of the Sexual Revolution, and they've embraced all the legal and cultural changes it mandated, so they can't offer any solutions for its poisonous fruit. Consequently our conservative editorialist can't come up with any solution beyond calling for men to just...be better. And that will somehow fix everything.
 
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Conservatives won't allow themselves to question the roots of the Sexual Revolution, and they've embraced all the legal and cultural changes it mandated, so they can't offer any solutions for its poisonous fruit.

I've heard through the grapevine that behind closed doors they admit they CANNOT put the toothpaste back in the tube because the 19th allows women to vote as a bloc to prevent it.

See: Ohio.

This doesn't stop until society collapses into totalitarianism or the US is conquered by a power that will deny the vote to women.
 
You say that as if "treating women above reproach", both applies on a societal-wide scale, and as if though it's something completely separate and distinct from technological advancement, propaganda, and social engineering.

This is a work of many hands affecting many lives done by people who didn't recognize where it would lead because learning from history is for retards.
My bad I probably should have reworded my post, I wasn't trying to imply it was mutually exclusive more than one main factor seems to have started the slippery slope down this path. The other factors certainly didn't help improve the situation or make it any better, but I'd argue how women are treated now in comparison to the past is slightly different.

I'll agree some may have not known where this would head bar propogandist and social engineers, I'm sure somewhere down the line they knew this would start a chain of rational and decision making hence why they put so much effort into such propoganda and social engineering. Otherwise they'd be accidental exploiters/pushers.

To be fair about the history concept, some learnings and historical outcomes weren't even apparent up until recent years. An easy example is how many people are blatantly unaware of the difference between "Truth" of an event and "official historical narrative." Which are two separate things oftentimes. I also agree that it's not so simple to fix, or prevent, or even stop just because of the perfect storm that is happening now, or similarly (if not the same to varying degrees) throughout history and variables of the events in question. However, unlike past ages if we don't lose the internet and actual documentation of current era's events maybe the future unlike the past may be prevented from the same outcome. Though that's more optimism than anything.

In regards to the concept of technology and advancement leading to this, much of this was set in motion prior to the technology we have today existing is all I merely mean in regards to it not being the main slide into our current outcome.

Otherwise I primarily agree with some of the concepts you present on this predicament.
 
I still contend this theory of "oops I destroyed Chesterton's Fence" as if it were an accident gives far too much credit and good faith to filthy, communist minions of Satan.
They knew exactly what they were doing, which was why they did it.

(This is how I know time travel will never ever exist, at least to the past, because ALL this shit traces back to Marx, and the first thing anyone objectively trying to improve history would do would be to yeet Marx into a "drowing accident" in his childhood, preventing both world wars and untold misery)
 
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Conservatives won't allow themselves to question the roots of the Sexual Revolution
Whenever they do, they have incompetent morons doing the questioning and making the worst arguments possible. Rick Santorum, Todd "rape victims can't get pregnant" Akin, or the Duggars come to mind.
 
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The wildest thing I have seen is still men ditching drugs, getting their shit together, stop living in trash heaps and getting actual jobs - while also going from perpetually having girls to being depressingly single.
Drug addicts give the trashy women tinglies while guys that have jobs subconsciously ask them to do better with their lives. Big surprise which one they choose.
 
The wildest thing I have seen is still men ditching drugs, getting their shit together, stop living in trash heaps and getting actual jobs - while also going from perpetually having girls to being depressingly single.
Women are so utterly solipsistic today they are incapable of experiencing gratitude for what men do to create the stability they crave.
This is how they end up leaving because "he doesn't give me enough attention" (e.g. every second of his waking hours).
 
you guys can play the blame game with the opposite sex all you want but you're just gonna create a bigger rift while your genitals rot away into nothingness.
Meet people in your hobby groups. Talk to them, build a relationship. Fuck them and get married.
You guys are falling for dating apps and dating scenes which are designed to make you hate everyone and everything and continuously use the apps for frivolous living.

Sure, you are going to meet a lot of shitty people or people who ghost you because that's the world we live in, but ffs, just try harder.
 
Dating apps are for finding actual romantic partners? I was always under the impression that they were for setting up one-night stands, and for serial killers to find easy victims.
Not that they're even usable anymore. I downloaded tinder once and most of the girls were obviously fake.
 
To be fair to this generation, dating wasn't much better in the 90's. But, at least we left the house, and there were more places to socialize than the sad locals bar.
I disagree. Dating has never been easy for any generation, but at least when I was dating in the 90s, there were a few very important differences in the dating scene then that differ from today...

We didn't have all of the electronic distractions that young people do today. Until the Playstation came around, video games were seen as being something for kids or young teenagers, the internet barely existed, and was seen as something strictly for nerds, and almost nobody had a cell phone. If you asked someone out, you did so in person, or at worst over a landline where you never knew if you'd be able to get them on the phone at any given time, because that's how landlines worked.

People had bigger social circles then, because there wasn't much to do inside the home, people went out a lot more, whether that meant bars, nightclubs, raves (it was the 90s after all), house parties, or just chilling at someone else's house with no particular goal in mind. I met a girl at a Simpsons watch party and we dated for three years until life took us in different directions. I've never even heard of there being a similar kind of social event like a watch party that young people today would be interested in, let alone attend.

And since people had bigger social circles, a lot of times a mutual friend would set you up with someone, because they thought you'd click. I don't know if that's still a thing today or not, but I'd bet that even if it is, it's a lot less common than it was 30 years ago. Just being around strangers or acquaintances led to more social interaction that would sometimes develop into a romantic relationship once the two people go to know each other better.

Paradoxically, even though people generally had bigger social circles than they do today, competition on the dating market was a lot less fierce than it seems to be today, because you weren't competing with every person with a dating profile in a 50 mile radius. Even if you went to a large college, which I did, you weren't going to meet everyone there even after 4 years of attending. Sure, if bars were your thing, the most attractive guys would have better chances with the bar skanks, but those same guys would never even meet the girls who weren't into that scene.

And most importantly, people didn't curate a fake image of themselves on social media and feel an intense need to compare their lives to everyone else's all the time. Sure, there have always been vain people, and assholes who would brag about how awesome their lives were (who were almost always full of shit), but those were seen as extremely unlikable traits. Now, society not only tolerates and accepts that behavior, it rewards it.
 
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you guys can play the blame game with the opposite sex all you want but you're just gonna create a bigger rift while your genitals rot away into nothingness.
Meet people in your hobby groups. Talk to them, build a relationship. Fuck them and get married.
You guys are falling for dating apps and dating scenes which are designed to make you hate everyone and everything and continuously use the apps for frivolous living.

Sure, you are going to meet a lot of shitty people or people who ghost you because that's the world we live in, but ffs, just try harder.
"Sure, we destroyed the ability to approach in real life because 'creep'. Sure, we destroyed the ability to date co-workers because 'power imbalance'. Sure, we're not the ones suffering without dates.

But you just need to try harder okay? You need to continuously push that boulder up the mountain where any slip can lead to you having your social life destroyed for 'being a creep'. Do better"

Lmao

Dating apps are for finding actual romantic partners? I was always under the impression that they were for setting up one-night stands, and for serial killers to find easy victims.
Not that they're even usable anymore. I downloaded tinder once and most of the girls were obviously fake.
They're also for Karen Jr to install and browse when she feels neglected by her partner so she can soak in the attention from hundreds of guys each day. Or for her single friend Cindy to find a random cock to ride for the night when her self esteem is low.

Yes I've seen both the above happen.
 
Sure, you are going to meet a lot of shitty people or people who ghost you because that's the world we live in, but ffs, just try harder.
Yeah you shitty incels, just TRY harder. You aren't trying hard enough clearly. Nobody here is saying they don't have sex. They're saying they can't find worthwhile partners. A fuck boy is not a husband. A whore is not a wife. You can't get away from social media mind virus called Feminism that plagues our society. Oh wait, you can. Be a passport bro. Oh wait, they're just losers who can't get women in their own country, right? It surely has nothing to do with women constantly proving and exclaiming that they have no desire to have a family until they're old, ugly, and run through.
Dating apps are for finding actual romantic partners? I was always under the impression that they were for setting up one-night stands, and for serial killers to find easy victims.
Not that they're even usable anymore. I downloaded tinder once and most of the girls were obviously fake.
There was a time where dating apps were actually useful for finding partners. That time has long since passed.
 
you guys can play the blame game with the opposite sex all you want but you're just gonna create a bigger rift while your genitals rot away into nothingness.
>men are bad
>men are shit
>men are rapists
>men are small-dicked chuds
>stop playing the blame game!


You first.

Meet people in your hobby groups. Talk to them, build a relationship. Fuck them and get married.
Nigger are you actually retarded? Every single hobby group that isn't obviously female-centric like salsa dancing has a ratio of 10 men to 1 woman. And at least 7 of those other ten men are also trying to hook up with the few women that aren't already taken or are way too old.

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I'll stop posting it when it stops being relevant. "JuSt FiX YoUrSeLf"
 
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