Culture I am Gen Z. Men in my generation are not dating. Why should we?

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All across America, marriage, sexuality and relationships are on the steady decline among young people. According to a new Pew Research study, 63% percent of men aged 18 to 29 report being single. That means the number of single young men is nearly twice that of single young women, indicating a large breakdown in the social, romantic and sexual lives of American men. The big question is: Why?

One would think that making romantic connections would be easier than ever in our digital world, but the opposite is true. Our culture of convenience has paradoxically made dating more difficult for men as they are forced into a hyper-competitive, superficial environment that emphasizes instant gratification over true human connection. While there are several potential culprits causing this relationship breakdown, nothing has done more damage to the dating landscape than dating apps, social media and pornography.

Let’s start with dating apps. The advent of relationship websites started with Match.com in 1995 and evolved into the swipe-based platforms we know today with Tinder and Hinge releasing in 2012, and Bumble in 2014.

According to a survey of 6,034 adults, 53% of adults ages 18-29 have found someone to date through an app or site. However, new Census data shows that the U.S. marriage rate hit an all-time low in 2019. For every 1,000 unmarried adults, only 33 got married. This number was 35 a decade ago in 2010 and much higher at 86% in 1970. So, what gives?

It’s easier for men to date, thanks to technological conveniences, yet this technology has created a counterintuitive situation leading them to have a fickle attitude toward relationships, constantly searching for the next thing instead of committing to one person.

With the abundance of choices on dating apps, young men are finding it difficult to build deeper connections with a single person due to that sense of constant availability. When a minor red flag appears in a relationship that is otherwise going smoothly, why stick around and work it out when thousands of other choices are right at your fingertips? Young men are making that calculation every day on dating apps and are siding with the latter. How can you blame them with the constant programming coming from social media?

With social media today, men can scroll through their feeds and popular pages to view more beautiful women in one sitting than most men would see in their lifetime a hundred years ago.
Social media vies for people's attention leading women to commercialize themselves, which gives men an unrealistic expectation of the dating pool. On social media, people are encouraged to only show their best, even if it’s fake! With the advancements in facial-recognition technology, many times men are looking at women through heavily filtered and airbrushed lenses.

While women reap the benefit of the online attention, men are left wondering how the dating pool has gotten so far out of reach. Consequently, those same women who are marketing themselves as something they’re not are left without a partner and wondering where all the good men have gone. Through social media, both sexes are conditioned to treat themselves as a number instead of embracing true human connection and partnership.

Maybe I’m just old-fashioned, but to me, flirting face-to-face leaves a bigger impression on the potential for a relationship than reacting to girls’ Instagram Stories with the flame emoji. Coupled with the barrage of women on dating apps, the culture of constant comparison fostered by social media makes it hard for men to commit to a relationship and settle down. If that wasn’t enough, now even men’s greatest source of dating motivation has been co-opted by pornography.

There is no doubt that lust, which is carnal in nature, is the strongest driving motivation for men when it comes to dating. It sparks initial attraction and passion and draws people together. Ultimately though, lust may fade, but the emotional connection typically built upon that initial sense of attraction is what can determine a relationship’s success.

Pornography, however, completely destroys this dynamic, because it shifts men’s reward system to simply being carnal and physical in nature but lacking the emotional connection necessary for healthy relationships. Today, pornography is easier than ever to consume. Forty million U.S. adults regularly visit pornography websites, and 10% of U.S. adults admit to having an addiction to Internet pornography.
It’s easier for men to date thanks to technological conveniences, yet this technology has created a counterintuitive situation leading them to have a fickle attitude toward relationships, constantly searching for the next thing instead of committing to one person.
Research shows that about 67% of 13-year-old boys have seen at least one pornographic image on some sort of digital device in the past year, and by the age of 18, that number rises to 90%.

In porn, finding a "relationship" is effortless. With porn, this digital partner has nothing else to do but wait for you, please you and give you exactly what you think you want. If this partner ever fails to keep you entertained, they can be exchanged with a single click. Why waste your time dating, flirting and putting in effort when men can have their deepest sexual desires met online?

Today, men in their 20s are more likely than women to be romantically uninvolved, sexually dormant and friendless. Studies have shown that men are more likely to engage in risky and violent behaviors when they lack a stable relationship, leading to higher crime rates, substance abuse and social unrest. Single men may also be less invested in building strong social networks, leading to isolation and a lack of community engagement.

Simply put, the breakdown of relationships between men and women is startling, and it is detrimental to a healthy society. The good news is that men can fix this, and the remedy is easier than we think. Leave dating apps, stop watching porn, and go talk to girls in real life.
 
Twice as many men are sexless and single I am already pulling my bingo card

- women are vapid whores check
- feminism to blame not found
- women are golddiggers check
- MUH SOCIAL MEDIA check
- 300 ways to blame women check
- blaming anything under the sun check
- admiting that men are at fault for their own situation still not found

Meanwhile women move on and fuck each other :story:

while you scream at them ....

Buddy how many times i have to tell you INSTA THOTS are not all women also I didn't knew ¨having a house and a car and a income to support a family ¨ is now elon musk minus 20 years I mean nigga how broke are you? . I mean admit you are brokie that jerks off to insta thots is fine but dont blame all women for the actions of less than 10 % of the woman population that are doing this.


Nobody is going to talk about Men NOT HAVING ABILITY TO FORM FRIENSHIPS or any kind of relatioship ??? I mean talking about being absolutely autistic lol

Final judgment : women are at fault men most affected.

Until men as a group admit its their own doing this wont change, if you see any group for dealing addictions, and various issues the first step is to admit the problem, judging by the answers and responses the majority would rather put on programmer socks and cut dicks off than to admit they are responsible for their inceldom .

Has anyone mentioned the vast gulf in values between young men and women yet? Why would these two groups of people want to date each other? They find the other's core values abhorrent. The conservative Gen Z man will find the most similar women among Gen X and Boomers, and those women will probably appreciate attention from a younger man.

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So, Masterbaiter, you want to blame men, so explain to me why your sex is all promoting the pinko shit? I agree it's men's job to fix this, the problem is, it's our job to fix you women, because I doubt your sex is capable of fixing themselves out of liberalism.

I can show all sorts of stats about how women are running into alternative religion, tarot cards, astrology, alternative 'healing' methods... And it's up to us men to correct these superstitions in you gals. Because I don't think women are capable of correcting themselves.

Women can't right their own ship anymore than they can open the pickle jar by themselves.

Hell, it's women pushing the LGBT thing. I think you needs some of your rights taken from you, and it's time for men to step up and take them away. We let you vote, we gave you a voice and what did you use it to say? Communist and tranny shit. Time for the ladies to sit down.

You can try to take the onus of anything women do away from them, you know, be selective about women's agency the same ways you pull this manipulative shit in relationships, but men are catching on. Women have as much agency over dating as they do over the political causes they promote. It all draws up from the same place, though I'm eager to hear how men are the reason women are promoting socialism, Wicca, and drag queen shit. Because it's always men, because you know, accountability is a woman's kryptonite, and they'd never settle for women taking any sort of the blame at all.
 
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>men are bad
>men are shit
>men are rapists
>men are small-dicked chuds
>stop playing the blame game!


You first.


Nigger are you actually retarded? Every single hobby group that isn't obviously female-centric like salsa dancing has a ratio of 10 men to 1 woman. And at least 7 of those other ten men are also trying to hook up with the few women that aren't already taken or are way too old.

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I'll stop posting it when it stops being relevant. "JuSt FiX YoUrSeLf"
I always read that in the Scotsman's voice from Samurai Jack.
 
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>men are bad
>men are shit
>men are rapists
>men are small-dicked chuds
>stop playing the blame game!


You first.


Nigger are you actually retarded? Every single hobby group that isn't obviously female-centric like salsa dancing has a ratio of 10 men to 1 woman. And at least 7 of those other ten men are also trying to hook up with the few women that aren't already taken or are way too old.

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I'll stop posting it when it stops being relevant. "JuSt FiX YoUrSeLf"
This is all just so depressing to me. I think this is assuming all women are ultra man-hating leftists but they really aren't. There are so many based women out there, but many aren't chronically online.
When I say 'try harder' I truly mean exhaust every avenue.
Take community college classes
Co-ed gun clubs
Co-ed sports clubs
Community center classes
Autistic game hobbies
If all fails, mail order bride???
Giving up on life and saying all women are crime scenes just seems like less baby making-- and I like babies and feel like western societies need more of them. Also it's just a major bummer.

Also maybe where you live culturally sucks balls.
 
This is all just so depressing to me. I think this is assuming all women are ultra man-hating leftists but they really aren't. There are so many based women out there, but many aren't chronically online.
You realize this "internet and real life are different!" meme regarding culture is no longer true and hasn't been for quite awhile now, right? Everyone is plugged into a smartphone and are on the exact same social media sites, we are way past the days of only the nerds and initiates using the web. In fact, if you're not on social media it's way harder to maintain a social life because people do all their planning and stuff on there now.
 
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Until men as a group admit its their own doing this wont change, if you see any group for dealing addictions, and various issues the first step is to admit the problem, judging by the answers and responses the majority would rather put on programmer socks and cut dicks off than to admit they are responsible for their inceldom .

Were men better in 1890? Serious question.
 
the fact we even have to do this should trigger the alarm bells in your head that something is fucking wrong where you won't encounter a functional woman in any kind of "normal" social setting
It's like some people's brains are hardwired only to consider prioritizing how women benefit first. "You can find someone, you just have to do it in the like in the old days: join the Ringling Bros. circus, go to clown school, learn to juggle, throw knives, and perform ventriloquism, flirt with some clown girls, go to an ICP concert, bang some methed up fatty whore."
 
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It's like some people's brains are hardwired only to consider prioritizing how women benefit first. "You can find someone, you just have to do it in the like in the old days, join the Ringling Bros. circus, go to clown school, learn to juggle, throw knives, and perform ventriloquism, flirt with some clown girls, go to an ICP concert, bang some methed up fatty whore."
something something traditional sex roles something something modern society is anything but traditional something something dissonance
like, how people react to male virgins wanting female virgins
traditional society says this is fair and to be expected while modern society shits itself as it tries to process what this means or who is right and who is wrong but ultimately it's somehow a problem on the guy's fault because it's tradition

I suppose a better example would be a neet virgin wanting another neet virgin. Modern society paradoxically says the former is bad and the latter is good while saying both are the same. We all know that's too much because a woman can easily get a man with a job off looks alone because this is what a free sex market society with no shame looks like. Traditional society would shame both: the man for not working and the woman for not being married or not thinking of motherhood. It would push them to get together because the man would be forced to get out of his rut for the sake of the woman and the woman would be fulfilling her traditional role. Modern society will shame and blame men for the woman's failure, his own failure, and the lack of children in spite of the equality that's supposed to exist as we've seen time and time again.

It's our primitive thinking clashing with the actual world we live in. If you don't acknowledge or can't acknowledge that the world we live in is built of bullshit, your mind will naturally gravitate to conclusions with shaky foundations. In this case, it's saying enough based women exist if you just look for them everywhere as hard as you can. I can probably throw a stone in my neighborhood and it'll hit a house where a neet or red-pilled teenage guy lives. We know the opposite don't exist in plentiful numbers off statistics and common sense alone.
 
Were men better in 1890? Serious question.
In some ways, I'm sure they were, but the fact remains that men today have to be ten times as good as their grandfathers for women ten times worse than their grandmothers. Hoeflation, they call it. I've seen this firsthand, my grandparents were both wonderful people, absolutely devoted to each other (and their kids), and I can tell you that most women I meet couldn't hold a candle to my grandmother in terms of personality. And my grandfather was a great man, but he wasn't necessarily the kind of man that's hard to find today.

You realize this "internet and real life are different!" meme regarding culture is no longer true and hasn't been for quite awhile now, right? Everyone is plugged into a smartphone and are on the exact same social media sites, we are way past the days of only the nerds and initiates using the web. In fact, if you're not on social media it's way harder to maintain a social life because people do all their planning and stuff on there now.
The iPhone and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. Just like the sexual revolution.
 
As a guy, the situation is that I don't want kids, ever. Once you take kids out of the equation marriage seems much less worthwhile for a guy. Once marriage isn't the goal, the whole relationship thing seems less interesting as a whole. I'm not against meeting someone and being with them in a relationship for the rest of my life, but the desire to actually dedicate time and effort to that pursuit seems less appealing. If I randomly happen to meet someone, great. If not, I guess it wasn't meant to happen.
 
This is all just so depressing to me. I think this is assuming all women are ultra man-hating leftists but they really aren't. There are so many based women out there, but many aren't chronically online.
At this point, most people are chronically online. And if they're not chronically online, they're still being exposed to the stinkpieces of the women that most assuredly are chronically online. I don't think you get just how deeply the well has been poisoned. And your definition of 'based' is probably 'supports the usual cavalcade of feminist bullshit but might vote for Trump and might be slightly woke on gun control and trannies'. With few exceptions, every 'le based woman' I've known still supports the welfare state, supports video games/movies being changed to appease woke and feminist sensibilities(again, with the distinct exception of troonism), and they still support being placed on the pedestral our retarded tradcon boomer parents put them on. You don't get points with me for being slightly more woke on the tranny question than most people, that's the bare minimum, especially considering most of you only went anti-trans after seeing irrefutable evidence it would bite you in the ass personally. You're as useful as a fire alarm that chirps after half my house has burnt down.

When I say 'try harder' I truly mean exhaust every avenue.
Take community college classes
Co-ed gun clubs
Co-ed sports clubs
Community center classes
Autistic game hobbies
If all fails, mail order bride???
Every single last one of those is subject to the same problems I detailed above. Long on dudes, short on chicks. The fact that you even considered listing 'autistic game hobbies' as a viable option tells me that you have absolutely no fucking idea what you're talking about. Go on down to a Warhammer store and tell me how many women you find. It would be significantly less grating if you ladies could just admit you're out of your depth and have no clue what you're talking about, cause this is "Firm handshake and eye contact" levels of useless advice.

If all fails, mail order bride???
I'm sure you'd find a way to call me a misogynist for doing that. And frankly I don't really want to raid the third world for their women and make a bunch of hapa babies like our grandparents did.

Giving up on life and saying all women are crime scenes just seems like less baby making-- and I like babies and feel like western societies need more of them. Also it's just a major bummer.
Oh boo fucking hoo you walking true crime video. Of the two genders there's one that has significantly more power to end this stalemate and I'll give you a hint, it's not the one you're currently telling "oh chin up bucko, you haven't exhausted every avenue in existence!" When you start saying the two genders should try meeting halfway I'll take your crocodile tears a bit more seriously.
 
You Western guys are in trouble. Though for different reasons than China.

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Can someone explain to me why she, and many women I have had the misfortune to meet in real life, seem to revel in the fact that they are doing very badly? She seems happy about it. I don't believe this is gallows humor though.
 
In some ways, I'm sure they were, but the fact remains that men today have to be ten times as good as their grandfathers for women ten times worse than their grandmothers

I really would like an actual woman who insists the problems with dating and marriage today are wholly men's fault believes that men in 1890 were simply much better marriage material then the men of today. After all, nearly all those men got married and had kids.

Would she rather be an 1890 man's wife?

Does she, deep in her heart, find the kinds men who wouldn't let her kind have any power over them more attractive than the weak men of post-feminism America?

Because of course she does. There's a reason the most broken sluts on the dating apps want a man to choke them and slap them around during sex. There's a reason in the BDSM world, the women are nearly always "subs" looking for a man to completely control them. There's a reason murderers get love letters. Women are attracted to power & status. They're not attracted to equality & submission. You want a woman's vagina to shrivel up and die in your presence? Ask her for permission to do something.

You know, like we do every four years in the voting booth.
 
Every single last one of those is subject to the same problems I detailed above. Long on dudes, short on chicks. The fact that you even considered listing 'autistic game hobbies' as a viable option tells me that you have absolutely no fucking idea what you're talking about. Go on down to a Warhammer store and tell me how many women you find. It would be significantly less grating if you ladies could just admit you're out of your depth and have no clue what you're talking about, cause this is "Firm handshake and eye contact" levels of useless advice.
Hell, tell us what kind of women you find.
In some ways, I'm sure they were, but the fact remains that men today have to be ten times as good as their grandfathers for women ten times worse than their grandmothers. Hoeflation, they call it. I've seen this firsthand, my grandparents were both wonderful people, absolutely devoted to each other (and their kids), and I can tell you that most women I meet couldn't hold a candle to my grandmother in terms of personality. And my grandfather was a great man, but he wasn't necessarily the kind of man that's hard to find today.
And despite feminism, or maybe because of it, these women do none of the heavy lifting in a relationship other than what they specifically want to control. Everything else is your problem, you gotta fix it or do it... despite being such strong women, of course.
 
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