Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

Do you believe that this series will turn to shit?


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"...I've been influences by Seth Rogan comedies..."
Viv, that's not something you should be priding yourself on!
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Western artists on twitter try to shut up and not make an ass out of themselves for longer than a minute challenge(impossible the ego won't allow any ounce of professionalism)

Also interesting, because the only people who often find overexercise swearing funny are children and teens, the show's exact audience
She doesn't seem to realize this isn't the W she thinks it is
 
There's nothing wrong with having a show with very sweary characters. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and The Thick of It come to mind. The problem is when you lean on obscenity alone, for humor. Swearing isn't funny in and of itself. It's like salt. It's a condiment.


For instance, Malcolm Tucker isn't funny because he swears. He's funny because he's an intimidating presence and he roasts and verbally abuses people to their faces without any consequences, leaving them bewildered, justifiably terrified, and walking on eggshells around him. It's the context that counts.

The problem with Helluva Boss is that the humor is often something along the lines of, "Haha, fuck! Haha, dildos! Funny, funny! Laugh please!" which just isn't that funny.
 
Yup she’s butthurt again. Probably was the Digital Circus video that did it.
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Monica, it's because when people point out an obvious flaw in something that is a hindrance to it's narrative, with the creator herself showing no sings of future improvement, people are going to start taking pot shots at it.
 
Also how the fuck are there innocent woobie ass deaf kids in ACTUAL HELL. Didn't expect this shit to be one of the many casualties of the eternal current year, but here we are I guess.
It's the weird rules of the show that don't really make sense when you think about...

Imps and hellhounds are native to hell. They live and can be killed ( its unknown if they have a natural life cycle and die of old age or just hit adulthood then stay that way).

Sinners ( humans) respawning when killed in hell with anything that isn't a divine weapon because its supposed to be eternal punishment.

Greater demons/ Princes of hell are native to hell and have massive amounts if power and are highly impervious to injury barring divine weapons.

All of this actually works pretty well with the issue of humans being able to obtain more and more power in hell... given beings like alister exist it really doesn't make sense that humans don't run hell. They appear to be able to match the greater demons once they hit the higher echelons of power. More puzzling is anyone can kill anyone in hell if they get a divine weapon.

The power structure should be a lot more fluid then it is.
 
Sorry to shift gears all of a sudden but I just found this and wanted to talk about it for a moment. As if we needed further proof that Viv thinks Stolas is an innocent uwu baby boy victim.

Blitzo could’ve negotiated his way out of it at any time? Really now? Stolas dangled the book in front of him, he was basically forced into it, and the first time he slept with him was out of guilt. I’ll grant that there was some miscommunication on Blitzo’s end (even though he acts annoyed with Stolas’ advances 99% of the time) but to claim Stolas is completely guiltless is asinine.
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Sorry to shift gears all of a sudden but I just found this and wanted to talk about it for a moment. As if we needed further proof that Viv thinks Stolas is an innocent uwu baby boy victim.

Blitzo could’ve negotiated his way out of it at any time? Really now? Stolas dangled the book in front of him, he was basically forced into it, and the first time he slept with him was out of guilt. I’ll grant that there was some miscommunication on Blitzo’s end (even though he acts annoyed with Stolas’ advances 99% of the time) but to claim Stolas is completely guiltless is asinine.
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While the pilot is longer canon, you still have the first two HB episodes showing Stolas being predatory towards Blitzo (especially with the Loo Loo Land one). Unless Viv wants to scrub certain episodes from the official series, which I won't be surprised if that happens.
 
Sorry to shift gears all of a sudden but I just found this and wanted to talk about it for a moment. As if we needed further proof that Viv thinks Stolas is an innocent uwu baby boy victim.

Blitzo could’ve negotiated his way out of it at any time? Really now? Stolas dangled the book in front of him, he was basically forced into it, and the first time he slept with him was out of guilt. I’ll grant that there was some miscommunication on Blitzo’s end (even though he acts annoyed with Stolas’ advances 99% of the time) but to claim Stolas is completely guiltless is asinine.
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This could’ve been fine and dandy if they stuck with a little bit of the pilot’s characterization where Stolas is fine with Blitzo using the book to kill humans that would be inconvenient for him.

This stuff makes no sense since if Blitzo negotiated out of it, there’s no reason for him to have the book but then again it doesn’t even matter at this point since all IMP does is bodyguard duty at best.
 
They appear to be able to match the greater demons once they hit the higher echelons of power.
Apparently only Alastor has ever done that.
Sorry to shift gears all of a sudden but I just found this and wanted to talk about it for a moment. As if we needed further proof that Viv thinks Stolas is an innocent uwu baby boy victim.
Which is completely alien to the supposedly "non-canon" pilot and even episode 1, where their relationship was mutually abusive. Now they're just emo yaoi boys. It's a fanfic of itself at this point.
 
Apparently only Alastor has ever done that.
Maybe blow for blow but it still begs the question of why the greater demons dont see the sinners as a threat. I don't know the respawn timer but unless its excessively long sucide rushes would be effective against demons as they are shown both to need time to heal and suffer permanent damage.

To add to that respawning seems random regarding where you reappear or at least is implied in the pilot episode. I'm putting to much thought into this but the demons number one concern should be any sinner or group of sinners assembling power.
 
Apparently only Alastor has ever done that.
I cannot remember where, but someone had mentioned that his big rival and also someone who gained a lot of power was the one with the giant television for a head. He seems to be in the trailer for the new series on Netflix as a bigger player now. I... guess?

It still kinda pains me to see how much Viv has only taken the surface lore of the Goetia stuff. Like, demons whose entire existences are to thwart other demons. Could've been some interesting setup just on that alone with IMP trying to do their job. But yeah, all the sparkle dogs and gay trauma is stale already.
 
Sorry to shift gears all of a sudden but I just found this and wanted to talk about it for a moment. As if we needed further proof that Viv thinks Stolas is an innocent uwu baby boy victim.

Blitzo could’ve negotiated his way out of it at any time? Really now? Stolas dangled the book in front of him, he was basically forced into it, and the first time he slept with him was out of guilt. I’ll grant that there was some miscommunication on Blitzo’s end (even though he acts annoyed with Stolas’ advances 99% of the time) but to claim Stolas is completely guiltless is asinine.
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Don't pretend Stolas was this stupid. He knew exactly what he was doing. He knew that Blitzø needed that book, and setup the initial offer of sex for the use of it. (Also, he asked this when Blitzø was in danger from being shot, so yeah, totally caring guy we have here.) Sure, Blitzø could have refused, but I highly doubt Stolas would just let him to continue using the book, just because he liked him. And I'm sorry, you can't convince me that Stolas has any genuine feelings for Blitzø during that time. All he thought about was the sex. The genuine feeling only really came up by the end of Season 1 and that just appeared out of nowhere.
Funny enough, the females on that list have little to no experience with voice acting. Jesus Christ, is Viv allergic to voice actors or something? There are people that both sing and voice act.
Maybe blow for blow but it still begs the question of why the greater demons dont see the sinners as a threat. I don't know the respawn timer but unless its excessively long sucide rushes would be effective against demons as they are shown both to need time to heal and suffer permanent damage.

To add to that respawning seems random regarding where you reappear or at least is implied in the pilot episode. I'm putting to much thought into this but the demons number one concern should be any sinner or group of sinners assembling power.
Sinners and the powerful demon classes such as goetias, deadly sins, and Lucifer's family can only die by an angelic weapon. Hellborn, hellhounds, and imps though are free game. You think there would be some sort of uprising by the lower class in Hell, but no. That's not as interesting as the gay drama we have currently apparently.
 
I cannot remember where, but someone had mentioned that his big rival and also someone who gained a lot of power was the one with the giant television for a head. He seems to be in the trailer for the new series on Netflix as a bigger player now. I... guess?
Vox died at least 20 years after Alastor.
 
Sinners and the powerful demon classes such as goetias, deadly sins, and Lucifer's family can only die by an angelic weapon. Hellborn, hellhounds, and imps though are free game. You think there would be some sort of uprising by the lower class in Hell, but no. That's not as interesting as the gay drama we have currently apparently.

Huh was wondering how that worked I thought sufficient power would harm demons but it makes sense they would be immune since they are not true hellborn but fallen.

It is kind of weird how obtainable angelic weapons are in the plot. I get the vibe that angels are not a force meant to be challenged by demons. Do they just leave their spears behind?

I can kind of believe it considering how blood thirsty they are but that means any legit nobody can stumble across a weapon and smelt it down into demon killing bullets. It kind of invalidates the hierarchy.
 
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