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I'll be honest, I don't see the issue with tracing inanimate objects. If he wants proportions to line up and doesn't want to worry about fucking something up, is it a big deal?
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This isn't all that uncommon. In manga a lot of the time they just straight-up use photos with an unsharpen mask. When you're working to meet tight deadlines you cut corners where you can (or you delay your comic indefinitely, I guess that works too).View attachment 5529325
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As similarly shown in the above post, it's been discovered that several of the props in Rippaverse comics are allegedly being traced from 3D assets available online for download. The upload dates show they definitely pre-date the comics. This seems to be an exotic rare Juju W. Of course, this will largely only matter to people already predisposed to detract Eric July or those following his lolcow detractors.
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Think Dax is going to go after Valve for using pictures from Costco for Half Life? They just admitted in the anniversary doc to using tons of pictures for the game environment/objects to make sure the game would launch on time. Surely that's even worse than what Eric July did! Pinnacle of lazyness or some such.This isn't all that uncommon. In manga a lot of the time they just straight-up use photos with an unsharpen mask. When you're working to meet tight deadlines you cut corners where you can (or you delay your comic indefinitely, I guess that works too).
I've only seen a few pages of Isom but I thought it was pretty obvious it was relying pretty heavily on traced 3d objects. It didn't occur to me that was something controversial, it's gotten fairly common in mainstream comics and animation. There are programs that let you pose entire rooms full of objects to use as backdrops, or pose the characters themselves as 3d objects. This only really becomes an issue if the artists misrepresent what they do, ie if they claim things are hand-drawn but aren't.it's been discovered that several of the props in Rippaverse comics are allegedly being traced from 3D assets available online for download.
And wait til he finds out about Silent Hill and Kindergarten Cop:Think Dax is going to go after Valve for using pictures from Costco for Half Life? They just admitted in the anniversary doc to using tons of pictures for the game environment/objects to make sure the game would launch on time. Surely that's even worse than what Eric July did! Pinnacle of lazyness or some such.
No, it's just more dumb Diddler Dax bullshit. There's absolutely nothing wrong with doing this unless it's plagiarism or copyright infringement. It isn't. This is exactly what these assets are for, as 3D Warehouse itself says:This seems to be an exotic rare Juju W.
I knew someone who did this by just actually using real furniture, positioning it how he wanted it, then aiming a camera at it and tracing it in an app. How is this different? Dax is, as always, a complete loser who knows nothing about anything.I've only seen a few pages of Isom but I thought it was pretty obvious it was relying pretty heavily on traced 3d objects. It didn't occur to me that was something controversial, it's gotten fairly common in mainstream comics and animation.
That's what I get for giving Juju the benefit of the doubt and believing he'd found something that finally constitutes a standard criticism. The idea of tracing 3D models seemed tacky to me when I first saw the tweets, but it's clearly of zero consequence to anyone who'd otherwise enjoy the comic book.There's absolutely nothing wrong with doing this unless it's plagiarism or copyright infringement.
Yeah, 3D reference is pretty common in low quality C-list mainstream comics. Below is an infamous example from Batgirl.
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Ross, Adams, Land, Campbell. Visual reference of any kind has been a staple in making comics for decades. It's a deadline oriented, results based trade where ultimately the only thing that matters is how good the image is when it's done, not how you make it. Sometimes the result are seamless. Other times even the most casual readers start to notice that the women are making faces resembling porn. The actual problem isn't that the art in Isom uses references, it's that it doesn't use references well and the results aren't very good. It's not a master using a tool properly, it's a brazilian monkey banging rocks together until they made something passable as comic art.Mikel Janin, Brandon Peterson.
I'm more bothered when it gets over the top and looks
The worst that can really be said about it is that as a newbie project, it's mediocre. Not even outright bad, just something with room for improvement. But I suppose "he made millions on a mediocre comic book because the stuff from major publishers is such absolute trash it's great by comparison" isn't really much of a justification for "lmao let's go shit on his great grand-dad's grave and fuck up his life."Like I said, dunking on Isom is like the easiest shit, even casuals like Dax can do it. It took them six months or whatever to figure out that the entire thing was put together in 3D render. Wait til they put their heads together and notice that there's only 3 bodies in the entire series with different clothes and heads: male, female and superbuff male.
No, it isn't justification.The worst that can really be said about it is that as a newbie project, it's mediocre. Not even outright bad, just something with room for improvement. But I suppose "he made millions on a mediocre comic book because the stuff from major publishers is such absolute trash it's great by comparison" isn't really much of a justification for "lmao let's go shit on his great grand-dad's grave and fuck up his life."
And @FROG is just being fucking petty. Yeah he's obviously a more talented artist but EJ is cleaarly the more competent businessman.
Really? Could he have before he had even demonstrated he knew what he was doing at least on the business end of things?I just find it baffling honestly given the money that July has and has put into this. He could have just as easily hired a top level guy like Joe Bennett (doing Alphacore) for Isom #1.
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Oh man, Coomalot is gonna become Dax's new protege. I also notice he put Rekieta in the title, so it might be a three-way balldo-fest.
EDIT: Here's the Locals link now that I've stopped phonefagging. Rumble link for the show
It's pretty clear that Eric has far better bitness instincts than whatever goofy self-insert genealogical shit he was trying to pass off as creative inspiration with the name Isom. But ultimately it's neither here nor there because he could express whatever painfully dull yet deeply-felt artistic pretenses he has while at the dinner table using mashed potatoes and stop-motion animation and sold on bootleg VHS and it wouldn't matter. It's still the same popular, million-dollar Youtuber merch operation because it's Eric July and based black man is "trying to do something". That's what makes Dax's criticism particularly stupid and pointless. It's also what makes the reality distortion field surrounding Eric July so tragic. He doesn't need it. He never did.Really? Could he have before he had even demonstrated he knew what he was doing at least on the business end of things?
That's just Brazilian culture, though. I mean why paint it with such a savagely tinged stereotype as "anti-Semitic" or something? Are people from the Southern hemisphere supposed to be dominated permanently by the Northern half of the planet?Joe Bennett is kind of a special case I'll admit- he was a top Marvel artist who normally would not be accessible to Eric but got cancelled a few years back by depicting a jewelry shop in Incredible Hulk by painting a yellow star and writing "JEWERY" on it.