Are you lost needing femoid advice post here - For the poor bastard's who dare or are just curious

[Love Machine]

Are you actually looking for how to date/find love, or want to shoot down every last piece of advice so you can justify never dating? Because it really sounds like the second.
Not only have you been confrontational, you've straight up basically attacked people trying to help or offer advice. If other people want the advice, let them take it instead of arguing to drag them down to be as miserable as you seem to feel.

Oh I don't need any advice. I dont have any of these issues anymore. I was just
curious about what advice was in the thread, then saw advice that I commonly had issues with. I was putting in my too sense because as someone who wasn't in a good position a while ago who got the exact same advice, it's a trap.

If I were to personally give advice I'd say these things. I can go deeper in, but it's just cliffs notes.
1. Chances are if you're depressed because your life sucks, fix your life before worrying about woman. And go to the fucking doctor to make sure it's not some obvious hormone issue making it that way.
2. If you have some sort of deep issue that you can't meditate through, go to a fucking therapist. It is what they are there for. Also remember that they are a human and merely providing perspective. They can not give you a cure all.
3. Make some fucking friends that you can be honest with. The friends should be people you want to be. Not fellow losers like you. It's really easy to do this. Go to a gun range and learn how to shoot. Join a church, go to a book club, go to a bar. People are everywhere and will love to talk to you.
4. "Maxxing" to think it will get you woman is stupid and retarded. Never do anything for the idea "this will make woman like me", that is soul poision. Get fit because you want to be fit. Get smart because you want to be smart. Get rich because you want to be rich.
5. Any changes you make need to start small because it's a race not a marathon. You need to start small. HOWEVER you need to be consistent in taking bigger and bigger steps.
6. Stop giving yourself reasons why you're an autistic loser. The idea that people that people don't want to talk to you because you're ugly/short/fat/ whatever the fuck is not real. People are so lonely these days they'd talk to a cryptid looking mother fucker if they could. The reason is because you're a downer loser that isn't fun to talk to.
7. You need to have basic skills. You need to know how to change your oil, replace electrical sockets, shit like that. Being handy is more useful then being handsome.

 

[CoolFool]

I have to admit maybe it’s showing my status as a stinkditch regular to focus on this, but the amount of women who take a more vested interest in, at least conversing with, or as a trusted acquaintence/friend with me once I dropped my anti-troon views in a “hey… can we keep this between us?” is astounding.

I've been a lot more vocal about my anti-troon opinions and the relief I see on people's face when they realize they can finally vent to someone what they've been really thinking is priceless.

 

[Shidoen]

I have to admit maybe it’s showing my status as a stinkditch regular to focus on this, but the amount of women who take a more vested interest in, at least conversing with, or as a trusted acquaintence/friend with me once I dropped my anti-troon views in a “hey… can we keep this between us?” is astounding.

I’m thankful I live in a place where women don’t take shit and got guns. The troon menace is minimal here.

 

[suspended animation]

Telling a man to be "open about his emotions" is telling him to play Russian roulette. Especially a man who doesn't know better will be particularly negatively impacted. Most woman don't even know what a man actually opening up looks like, it's not good or pretty. It's something that a dude does when he is at the point of getting ready to marry something IF you're lucky. Hell he might be married for years before it happens. This is not to say a man should be stoic, but he shouldn't be opening up to his lady.

My issue with this is that communication is essential to any relationship, but especially a romantic one. I would not stay with a man who couldn't indicate to me in some way that he had feelings for me.

You don't have to slice yourself open and reveal every little heartbreaking trauma or nightmare you've endured in a deluge of tears...but you should be open a little at a time, in a way that you can emotionally handle.

As it applies to romantic feelings, you can show your lady you care in simple, inexpensive ways. Maybe during the workday you see something beautiful; take a photo and send it to her while saying something nice about how you thought of her at the time. Find a poem or passage in a book that reminds you of her and write it down and share it with her. A news article about a romantic travel destination that you hope one day you can afford to go to with her, and maybe make up some activities you would do there with her: make it into a fun story time.

(And when it comes to revealing fears or insecurities, try sharing a news or health article that describes it. Let her know that you are feeling too raw to say everything you want to, but you hope one day to be able to tell her everything about you, and that she will tell you everything about her in return.)

All of these are simple romantic ways of showing affection that should not cost you your soul. Giving a little piece of yourself at a time should not make you feel too weak, and if it does then there are some deeper issues that should be addressed by a professional.

 

[Love Machine]

My issue with this is that communication is essential to any relationship, but especially a romantic one. I would not stay with a man who couldn't indicate to me in some way that he had feelings for me.

Again I never said to stone wall. Nor necessarily never EVER open up about the extremely deep stuff. There is a difference about telling her about how much you hate your dad, and telling them about some sort of horrible child hood trauma like you were raped or something.

There is a difference between telling her a certain behavior she does makes you deeply uncomfortable, and telling her you have some sort of deeply seated body disphoria that you barely cope with.

Doing this in a point in a relationship were you're still at the point of petty retard arguments were you fling shit at each other, then she inevitable brings up the actual deep stuff. That shit that shouldn't be happening, and men are generally ill equipped with dealing with low blows like that. Sorry but it's just true, always has been always will be. When you're much deeper in a relationship and you know, preparing to get married or are already married. Chances of that happening are low.

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

I know a lot of you are going to balk at this, but hear me out - you will meet a ton of women/new people and learn a useful skill by taking a ballroom dancing course or joining a (classical) choir. Men are a very hot commodity there, they will be happy to have you. In my area women are not even allowed to come to ballroom dance courses unless they bring a man with them. You don't have to be good at it to begin with, they train you.
You can think of it as exercising White Culture or the Tradcath life if that makes it more appealing, but it's just fun to do too. Plus being able to dance or sing well makes surviving social events easier too.

what's an immediate dealbreaker for most women?

I can't speak for other women but:
Tattoos, and piercings in the face.
Poor personal hygiene.
Being unsocial to the point that you're not willing to be around my family, make an effort to be kind or are rude to them.
Not having a cheeky sense of humour. I need to be able to make un-PC jokes to my partner.
(History of) addiction.

Basically a shut in with some familial contact and almost nil friends cause Ive lost contact with most of them.

I dont like going to public gatherings,

If you want to avoid websites/dating apps and don't like going to bars and parties you're going to have to expand your social connections some other way. Lots of people meet their partners through friends, coworkers or relatives so you might have to invest in that, and maybe straight up let them know you're looking. @Flaming_Barghast's suggestion is good, or maybe take a course or class on or partake in activities that you already enjoy at your local community house, gym, museum etc., so you are at least doing something you like while socialising. Or find something like a Facebook group on writing or cooking if you're willing to look online, women still use Facebook for hobbies.

 

[NoReturn]

What are the recommendations for me?

Be autisticaly direct. Not even kidding. I know a dude like this and he tried to be "normal" for his ex and it was killing him. When they broke up he switched to "You want to go on a hiking date? No? Ok bye."-level directness with women and found a more compatible gf that way instead.

ATOGA thread for men

This isn't me poking fun at dudes, guys need guy spaces. Go build one.

i have particular type of men which are akward as hell and quiet guys I am the loud one, however they always sucked with dates the easiest way to make a good date is to do something usually board games in game shops are good place, they arent that loud and everyone there are weird so it will be easy for you to entertain the person. In summer i would drag them at the beach and play with sand, Keep in mind there are many women who are ok with silence as long as you get to do something interesting that takes away the attention also list the stupid hobbies so we can give you ideas, some women are fine with baking bread, cooking , looking at mushrooms or foraging ( that can be interesting and less stressfull also) even tasting brews etc .

@Georgio Cocklord, try board gaming groups or something that a lot of people gather for. Get to know people and make friends first, you'll have an easier time dating if it's someone you befriend first.

Also, don't stop at the board game group itself. I always see guys say "But board game groups are mostly men" and stop there. Men have sisters, men have wives with single friends. You must look further than the table itself and realize when you're playing that you're building social relationships that extend to people who aren't even physically present.

I have to admit maybe it’s showing my status as a stinkditch regular to focus on this, but the amount of women who take a more vested interest in, at least conversing with, or as a trusted acquaintence/friend with me once I dropped my anti-troon views in a “hey… can we keep this between us?” is astounding.

Hey man, those women might not want to lose their jobs or get cancelled, but that doesn't mean they actually agree with what they're being told they're supposed to agree with. Hell, a lot of us just don't come right out about it. I'm not going to go screaming about the troon menace in my normie social circles, but you also won't catch me complimenting them or engaging in pro-trans discussions either.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

I have to admit maybe it’s showing my status as a stinkditch regular to focus on this, but the amount of women who take a more vested interest in, at least conversing with, or as a trusted acquaintence/friend with me once I dropped my anti-troon views in a “hey… can we keep this between us?” is astounding.

This is only shocking to the "they voted for this" crowd. Of course you want to be sure the woman doesn't have a tranny sibling or that HR doesn't overhear, but no normal woman likes trannies and a decent number of normal women hate or are frightened by trannies.

 

[FarmVille]

Hobbies would be writing, drawing, cycling, video games, movies, very basic cooking, basic music composition. Mind you no TV shows, so no Korean drama stuff, I don't have the patience for shows.

Every writing class/writing workshop/writing meet up I have ever been to has never had more than 1 man in attendance. Usually there are no men. If you say you can’t meet women you’re not trying.

 

[Shidoen]

Every writing class/writing workshop/writing meet up I have ever been to has never had more than 1 man in attendance. Usually there are no men. If you say you can’t meet women you’re not trying.

What if I’m not good at writing?

 

[FarmVille]

What if I’m not good at writing?

If you are going to something like a general free meetup most of the people there are not. Not every writing activity involves critique

 

[AgendaPoster]

Unfortunately it's generally a bad idea to ever tell a woman your true feelings on anything.

If she's a tru playa she'll smell your infatuation with ease
The thing is, most males these days are absolutely unprepared to deal with the eternal emotion predator and vampiric entity that's the womyn, so they get eviscerated and made into dumb seething MRAs or something, broken and filled with vengeance
The idea is that it's a game
You don't hef to be mad if you lose sometimes
Keep playing playa

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

Unfortunately it's generally a bad idea to ever tell a woman your true feelings on anything.

Oh sweet summer child unless she is total autist she knows the average woman when it comes to reading emotions has a 4 lane Highway compared to average man who has one lane rural dingy road . I honestly wished i saved that study how well the genders read emotions .

 

[Shidoen]

Oh sweet summer child unless she is total autist she knows the average woman when it comes to reading emotions has a 4 lane Highway compared to average man who has one lane rural dingy road . I honestly wished i saved that study how well the genders read emotions .

What’s wrong with taking the rural road? It’s bumpy and fun to go through.

 

[Generic Anime Girl]

Oh sweet summer child unless she is total autist she knows the average woman when it comes to reading emotions has a 4 lane Highway compared to average man who has one lane rural dingy road . I honestly wished i saved that study how well the genders read emotions .

elaborate please?

 

[Justa Grata Honoria]

elaborate please?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5784910/

this is the best i can do

 

[Generic Anime Girl]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5784910/

this is the best i can do

yeah duh women are better at feelings
it's because men are all testosteroned out and retarded

 

[Black Hole Vacation]

In a world where you could, what behaviours that men exhibit would make you drop the fawning act and throttle them?

Also while I think the user base of this site might exhibit the behaviour less, give us some insight into how the whole fawning routine feels.

 

[NoReturn]

In a world where you could, what behaviours that men exhibit would make you drop the fawning act and throttle them?

Fawning like how we try to make men happy/calm so they don't hurt us/others/themselves-and-blame-us? Fight/fight/freeze/fawn?
Not going to PL, but instead I'll use this opportunity to say dads are super important. Dads basically set your behavior up for life.
A father sets his daughter's expectations for all men, he teaches his son how to be one.
If you, as a father, teach your daughter that the way to stay safe is to keep you happy or calm you down when you're angry, she's going to assume that's her job for life with all men. It really gets deep in there, too. It's one of those things that you can't really dig out easily even with therapy and you have to focus on changing the behavior instead of your core beliefs because it'll take too long.

 

[dvnc]

Why does how you feel about one sex impact how you feel about the other?

Not this pick me bs again

Because, despite my pointing out of things men do that I absolutely hate, I don't hate men. This is one place in life where there are no sides here due to the amount each of us fuck up. We're human. The resorting to referring me as a pick-me because I'm capable of pointing out and acknowledging when we do fucked up shit is incredibly shallow thinking. You aren't better than men and men aren't better than you.

You're never going to get me into a war of the sexes on who is better because both sides are stupid. It's the ACTIONS of those sexes that I call out. I'm not a feminist and I've made that pretty clear already and MRA's are actually twenty times worse.