Fallout series

[30+GameOvers]

Thing with Fallout 3 and 4 is that the setting can be explained away for the same reason why nothing in Africa got done for thousands upon thousands of years: low IQ lazy people. On top of that, in DC you got extremely irradiated soil and high levels of background radiation where drinking water is completely contaminated, not to mention all the feral ghouls/mutated animals/deathclaws/super mutants(which in F3 would have overrun the entire area if it wasn't for The Brotherhood). Everyone is living in squabbling shacks and feeding off 200 year old packaged garbage because the moment they set foot outside they will be eaten by something big with sharp teeth, get blown up by a rogue robot, get raped and mutilated by chemmed up raiders, get enslaved by Eulogy's men, get put in a concentration camp by The Enclave or god knows what else. This is why nothing got done and the entire region is a shithole, Boston can be largely explained as being overrun by raiders and being one big sandbox for Institute to experiment on if you want to look for reasons why that place also hasn't really build anything, you even get an admission from The Institute that any attempts at the local towns to ally and rebuild were met with Institute meddling in their affairs to keep them divided on purpose. West Coast, on the other hand, had much more time to rebuild thanks to the actions of Vault Dweller/Chosen One, with places like Shady Sands being the cradle of the West thanks to them being more or less shielded from all the problems haunting the East Coast, minus a few raiders or radscorpions. They grew into the monster that was the NCR, rebuilding the entire region in the aftermath of the Master's Army razing Necropolis and Boneyard to the ground(there is mixed reports about Hub being done in as well, so that would give them an even bigger monopoly on rebuilding the wastes if so).
Once you realize that The East Coast never had a hero like the Vault Dweller or Chosen One until F3 or F4, things start making more sense. Not saying it's a well written setting, but I dig the nihilistic, chaotic take on it compared to the post-post apocalypse of The West Coast, it's like the war never ended in DC for example.

 

[Mega Black]

The show was dead to me the second I learned a woman was going to be the main protagonist. You already know how obnoxious and shitty it's going to be, not to mention utterly toothless. Guarantee there won't be any rape, torture, or actual dark themes.

 

[Would]

No, no it doesn't. The devs don't understand the world of Fallout

An Enclave space station makes sense and would be awesome done well. I never advocated for the gameplay of the ESS, just the setting and extravagance of it all as fitting within OG Fallout's tone.

Why does this article exist? Why is it filled with unsourced rants about how the NCR turned to homophobia because of capitalism or some shit?

Why does the independent wiki also have the same goddamn article when I went to check if they were just as bad?

Normal people don't have time to make, edit, and maintain wikis about vidya.
That leaves the rejects and failures of society who have ample time because Western society mollycoddles reprobates rather than punishing them to maintain the wikis. It's so bad that it crosses into the realm of fan fiction.

Why can't LGBT characters be handled with a nifty little category like every other goddamn thing?

Faggots have always fancied themselves as special and above all, no surprise.

Anyone who's played New Vegas knows that line is complete BS, too, the NCR is stated to have literal implants, running trains and advanced agriculture back in California. They invaded the Mojave just to get the Hoover Dam and Helios One so they could power their tech back in California. Their infrastructure is not "crumbling from within."

B-B-But Ulysses, the Legion, and Orion Moreno; who resents the NCR said it's fall was inevitable!!!
Oh, the extreme authoritarian advocates said a rival empire was bad? Well, "Capitalism/Old-America bad" so I guess it's true.
Never mind that even House acknowledges the might of the NCR and the infrastructure they have is considerable (Though he does scoff that he can do better if given the same amount of time).
Are they stretched too thin in an attempt to secure Hoover and New Vegas? Sure. But try fighting them on their home turf. If the BoS had to resort to soft-exile, House needing an army of OP automatons equipped with machine guns and rocket launchers to defend his home base, and the Legion is having problems with a weakened and over-worked NCR, they stand close to no chance against their full might.

"Clearly arrested in development, Borous has literally built a temple to the fantasy of torturing his adolescent romantic rival and feeding him to dogs. His frozen, static characterization of the jock Richie Marcus as a 'pinko-commie' who 'likes balls' reflects the shallowness, pettiness, and overall misanthropy underlying his patriotic identity.

You can hear the seethe...

It remains apparent throughout Old World Blues that the Think Tank are all chronically sexually repressed, which is inseparable from the values of the violent and judgmental pre-War culture which created them.

They were the brightest minds of America. The game literally spells out that they're going insane from isolation and lack of purpose after being alive for multiple lifetimes. There's nothing subtle about it; Mobius straight up says it.
Sexually repressed? Dala is anything but repressed, she lets it all hang out.
Sounds like hardcore editor projection to me.

why are they taking the funny robots so seriously

Not like NV Trannies have much to live for and take seriously tbh.

 

[Sniperwoof]

I like how the show is explicitly based on Fallout 4 the worst game in the series. (Brotherhood isn't canon)

That seems like a good sign.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

I like how the show is explicitly based on Fallout 4 the worst game in the series. (Brotherhood isn't canon)

That seems like a good sign.

Well apparently it's an original story that takes place on the west coast, though the prydwen is there and it seems to be about the brotherhood of steel for some reason.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

The problem is that Bethesda puts their games 200 years after the bombs fell in the story. But the aesthetic and design make the game look like the bombs dropped last week. And no one has had the time to clean up and loot the buildings. Fallout 3's entire world makes far more sense if the bombs dropped ten years ago not two centuries. New Vegas had things like farms, trade routes, regular food and water supplies. It was a broken world but it made sense that humanity survived. Fallout 3 has people drinking polluted irradiated water for 200 years before you and your father and Project Purity show up. Bethesda just doesn't really understand Fallout.

Playing Tale of Two Wastelands currently really brings in to focus the stark difference in the level of detail and considerations regarding internal consistency between Bethesda and Obsidian.

There is a reason I play New Vegas twice a year but haven't replayed Fallout 3 since it came out.

 

[Mega Black]

Well apparently it's an original story that takes place on the west coast, though the prydwen is there and it seems to be about the brotherhood of steel for some reason.

It's about The Brotherhood because to Bethesda they are the protagonists of Fallout. They shove The Brotherhood into every single piece of the IP they can, no matter how little sense it makes.

 

[Ser Prize]

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/LGBT_representation_in_the_Fallout_series

Why does this article exist? Why is it filled with unsourced rants about how the NCR turned to homophobia because of capitalism or some shit?

Why does the independent wiki also have the same goddamn article when I went to check if they were just as bad? Why can't LGBT characters be handled with a nifty little category like every other goddamn thing? At this point I almost want to ask NMA to make a wiki, outside of the potshots they'd take at everything Bethesda at least I could count on it being filled with less bullshit.


Yeah, the article really wasn't that bad barring the eye-rolling "our world is going in a scary direction" shit, if anything the description of the BoS should be more palatable for the people that circlejerk that the BoS should be more cultish like Fallout 1 and 2. The images are what annoyed me, it's painful to see the FO4 assault rifle be in anything and it's annoying that we're getting spammed with live action T-60 rather than the T-51 I've always wanted to see in live action more than anything else in Fallout.

I still don't buy that you'd see much gay shit in a post apocalyptic world where every day is a struggle. Much less gay acceptance.

 

[Mola Ram]

I still don't buy that you'd see much gay shit in a post apocalyptic world where every day is a struggle. Much less gay acceptance.

Lord Humungus's gang from The Road Warrior would like a word.

However, it should be pointed out that their blatant gay overtones were probably a result of a band of raiders not wanting to burden themselves with children or pregnant women, and is pretty clearly intended as a mark of vile degeneracy.

 

[Ser Prize]

Lord Humungus's gang from The Road Warrior would like a word.

However, it should be pointed out that their blatant gay overtones were probably a result of a band of raiders not wanting to burden themselves with children or pregnant women, and is pretty clearly intended as a mark of vile degeneracy.

Lord Humungus and his band weren't exclusively gay, though. You see them rape a woman and a man at the start.

I'm pretty sure Raiders already do shit like that in canon, too.

 

[HeyYou]

I still don't buy that you'd see much gay shit in a post apocalyptic world where every day is a struggle. Much less gay acceptance.

Maybe you would in societies trying to be more civilized like the NCR but definitely not in any of the various backwards tribes inhabiting the wasteland. There's a they/them enby in a raider gang in Fallout 76. Raiders, the biggest reprobates of post-apocalyptic America, who rape women, murder for fun and enslave countless people, are somehow accepting of a person's pronouns. It's fucking goofy. I'm not expecting everything to be overbearingly edgy in these games but at some point the bad raiders have to actually be bad. They've become increasingly toothless and wacky in Bethesda games.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

There's a they/them enby in a raider gang in Fallout 76. Raiders, the biggest reprobates of post-apocalyptic America, who rape women, murder for fun and enslave countless people, are somehow accepting of a person's pronouns. It's fucking goofy.

Personally I could see a raider gang being "accepting" of that if said Fag Raider was a good raider, respect through fear and all that. Now if said raider is just some whiny bitch than yeah that's stupid, but I don't think its impossible for that to work in the fallout setting.

 

[macrodegenerate]

Normal people don't have time to make, edit, and maintain wikis about vidya.
That leaves the rejects and failures of society who have ample time because Western society mollycoddles reprobates rather than punishing them to maintain the wikis. It's so bad that it crosses into the realm of fan fiction.

What gets worse is that most people will never actually work with the templating system used on these Wiki systems. It's a shitshow requiring it's own esoteric knowledge base.

 

[Tepes Thot]

Somebody with autistic superpowers really should make an easy to use/learn wiki software so more people can make them.

Sure genderflakes would get their hands on it, but I’d like to think (cope) superior wikis focusing only on the material would win out.

As for the show…. No reason but incompetence that a Fallout show/movie couldn’t be a success these days. Kind of sad we’re in both the perfect, and most horrific, era for it at the same time.

 

[Yamamura]

If anything dies off in the Fallout series I hope it's the awful 4/76 "assault rifle" that's the size of an LMG. Even replacing it with the CETME style G3 they had in Fallout 3 would be an improvement.

Lorewise when did the US Army decide copying the design of the Vickers gun from World War 1 to base their infantry rifle was a good idea? It's already cannon that the AR design already existed in their universe in the 50s. I can even accept that the Marksman rifle from NV is a prototype.

I'm running with the theory Bethesda was on a time crunch and the assault rifle was originally intended to be an LMG and the combat rifle was originally intended to be a submachine gun which is why it fires 45 rounds and looks like a PPSH.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

"The Ghoul"? *Justfuckmyshithupfam.png*

 

[30+GameOvers]

I'm running with the theory Bethesda was on a time crunch and the assault rifle was originally intended to be an LMG and the combat rifle was originally intended to be a submachine gun which is why it fires 45 rounds and looks like a PPSH.

I believe Todd or one of the devs said that it "looked cool" so they took what was originally a vertibird mounted machine gun and turned it into a generic assault rifle. The idea is that it looks "badass" or something when wielded by the power armor user, so they used it in promotional material.
Don't look for logic here, there is none if try looking for it anywhere in their firearms they created. I doubt the .45 "rifle" was done for any other reason than because the devs never fired a weapon in their lives and don't know their 5,56mm from .45cal. Starfield guns show that they still don't know anything about firearms to this day.

 

[Polyboros2]

If anything dies off in the Fallout series I hope it's the awful 4/76 "assault rifle" that's the size of an LMG. Even replacing it with the CETME style G3 they had in Fallout 3 would be an improvement.

Lorewise when did the US Army decide copying the design of the Vickers gun from World War 1 to base their infantry rifle was a good idea? It's already cannon that the AR design already existed in their universe in the 50s. I can even accept that the Marksman rifle from NV is a prototype.

I'm running with the theory Bethesda was on a time crunch and the assault rifle was originally intended to be an LMG and the combat rifle was originally intended to be a submachine gun which is why it fires 45 rounds and looks like a PPSH.

Do I got some bad news for you.

 

[Snekposter]

If anything dies off in the Fallout series I hope it's the awful 4/76 "assault rifle" that's the size of an LMG. Even replacing it with the CETME style G3 they had in Fallout 3 would be an improvement.

Lorewise when did the US Army decide copying the design of the Vickers gun from World War 1 to base their infantry rifle was a good idea? It's already cannon that the AR design already existed in their universe in the 50s. I can even accept that the Marksman rifle from NV is a prototype.

I'm running with the theory Bethesda was on a time crunch and the assault rifle was originally intended to be an LMG and the combat rifle was originally intended to be a submachine gun which is why it fires 45 rounds and looks like a PPSH.

Keep in mind FO2 has plenty of more modern weapons. The G11, P90, XL70, CAWS, Jackhammer, Desert Eagle, M60... Fallout Tactics even has the M16A1, AUG, AC556, and M249. There's lots of room for modern weapons like the Marksman Carbine, which makes Bethesda's choices even more inexcusable, IMO.

 

[Yamamura]

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Do I got some bad news for you.

Dear Lord, they somehow managed to make the gun even longer. There are so many things wrong with this picture it's not even funny.