2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict: Official Mass Debates Edition

[AgendaPoster]

This has gotten stale.
The Arab states are cucked.
The IDF and Hamas boringly and consistently savage.
The EU and US pathetic.
Russia, China and BRICS barely even existing.
You can level entire cities in Ukraine and annex 20% of a country but can't have an edgy anti-Semitic position?
COMMON RUSSIA WTF

 

[MrJokerRager]

This has gotten stale.
The Arab states are cucked.
The IDF and Hamas boringly and consistently savage.
The EU and US pathetic.
Russia, China and BRICS barely even existing.
You can level entire cities in Ukraine and annex 20% of a country but can't have an edgy anti-Semitic position?
COMMON RUSSIA WTF

All the real men of culture died in the World Wars.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Thats the loosest version of "unintentional collateral damage"

Loose to you, maybe. Many others don't see it that way. Take that up with George Bush, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. They made "collateral damage" regarding civilian deaths acceptable while sacrificing our young men and women for Israel's (and their offshore accounts) benefit.

and will point out there's plenty of archeological evidence that supports the claims of religious zionism

There's plenty of empirical and scientific evidence that Palestinians are the direct descendants of the Hebrews that inhabited Palestine that converted to Christianity/Islam, while Ashkenazim are a mixture of Khazar, Slavic, Germanic, Turkish and Roma with varying degrees of Middle Eastern DNA, which is ascribed to the expulsion of Jews by Hadrian after the last Jewish–Roman war and their foray into Europe. The DNA of Mizrahim is similar to the Palestinians; Yemenite Jews are considered to be closest to the original Jewish inhabitants of Palestine with regard to their DNA. Their religious practices and Hebrew are considered to be the almost identical to what was spoken/practiced in antiquity. If we're looking at who has the better claim its the Yemenites but I have never heard any Israeli suggest Israel/Palestine be give over to them.

Making them live on reservations etc

Again, you can find fault with it all day long and still doesn't change the fact you are engaging in rhetorical fallacies. This is a debate thread about the Israel/Palestine conflict, not US Native Americans.

if they actually elected a government who Israel wanted

The Palestinians elected the government they wanted, not the one Israel wanted. Democracy for me but not for thee isn't a legitimate argument, much less a viable solution.

arent these the same pollsters

Nope.

This has gotten stale.
The Arab states are cucked.

Not this one:

Yemeni women selling their gold jewelry to provide financial assistance to the Palestinians. As the Saudi sheikhs loll about with fat bank accounts sporting platitudes, its the poorest Arab country that is actually doing something to help the Palestinians.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

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The picture of Elon at the crib and the message pushed out about it made me snort and drop a boogie.
Made me think of the turret ad from Portal 2. Unfortunately I know people who think that the cartridge casing is also fired out of the barrel.

Its interesting that there is a flip.

The leftists went from accepting every single government narrative on the kung flu to rejecting everything coming out of the Israeli government and its mouthpieces.

The rightists went from rejecting every single government narrative on the kung flu to accepting everything that comes out of the Israeli government and its mouthpieces.

Full Retardation Swings.

It's the pendulum shift everybody was praying for. Turns out it's the same gay shit but flipped around.

 

[Omnium Ultimatus]

Its interesting that there is a flip.

The leftists went from accepting every single government narrative on the kung flu to rejecting everything coming out of the Israeli government and its mouthpieces.

The rightists went from rejecting every single government narrative on the kung flu to accepting everything that comes out of the Israeli government and its mouthpieces.

Full Retardation Swings.

It's a false dichotomy that pits everybody into one of two camps. Because one side is supporting the current thing, then the other side must support the opposite of the current thing.

Because the left supports Hamas, the right must support the Israeli government. Because the left enjoys eating cat shit, the right must enjoy eating dog shit.

All that matters is bandwagoning whatever's politically popular. It is socially advantageous to chase trends, after all.

 

[AgendaPoster]

It is socially advantageous to chase trends

yeah well
fuck that
cashmeouside niggas

 

[MrJokerRager]

That is almost 99 percent virtual.

Compared to the poll above showing 30 percent.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

They made "collateral damage" regarding civilian deaths acceptable while sacrificing our young men and women for Israel's (and their offshore accounts) benefit.

brutal rape and murder is ok because americans drone strike people?

If we're looking at who has the better claim its the Yemenites but I have never heard any Israeli suggest Israel/Palestine be give over to them.

good thing israel imported all of the yemenite jews in operation magic carpet when the Muslims in yemen became oppressive, yemenites are zionists who support the current state of israel

This is a debate thread about the Israel/Palestine conflict, not US Native Americans.

you literally suggested that a two state solution be based on the Native American reservation model and when i point out how native americans do horribly under that model it's no longer relevant wonder why

The Palestinians elected the government they wanted, not the one Israel wanted. Democracy for me but not for thee isn't a legitimate argument, much less a viable solution.

>elect govt that's filled with obsessive terrorists because muh democracy
>cry when the obsessive terrorists carry out attacks to reach their goals and you get blockaded
>the enemy lightens the blockade to allow more material in and allowing more people to work in israel
>the obsessive terrorists ruin the economic improvement of your home because muh jihad

seems like its working out idk why they're doing so badly

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

The Arab states are cucked.

The current Arab governments (Except Qatar but they realistically cannot do much) are the most cowardly and retarded bunch out there.

 

[AgendaPoster]

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The current Arab governments (Except Qatar but they realistically cannot do much) are the most cowardly and retarded bunch out there.

He actually lived that quote too, considering the Guard's political assassinations, so he can't be accused of just being a big mouth, like politicians these days. It's incredible how the planet changed in not even 100 years.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

brutal rape and murder is ok because americans drone strike people?

Who doing the raping? It's Israel from what I heard:

The Israeli girl hostages fell in love with the HAMAS dudes. Seems like they didn't want to leave.

good thing israel imported all of the yemenite jews in operation magic carpet when the Muslims in yemen became oppressive, yemenites are zionists who support the current state of israel

And they all want to go back home-to Yemen, because Israelis threat them like second-class citizens.

you literally suggested that a two state solution be based on the Native American reservation model and when i point out how native americans do horribly under that model it's no longer relevant wonder why

Because America's bad acts do not justify Israel's bad behavior. I merely pointed it out when you and @MasterBaiter brought it up but your sperging about the Native Americans in the US is pure deflection from Israel's bad acts.

>elect govt that's filled with obsessive terrorists because muh democracy
>cry when the obsessive terrorists carry out attacks to reach their goals and you get blockaded
>the enemy lightens the blockade to allow more material in and allowing more people to work in israel
>the obsessive terrorists ruin the economic improvement of your home because muh jihad

seems like its working out idk why they're doing so badly

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians, not a bunch of Euro Jews on the make. Its that simple.

 

[Solid Hyrax]

The Israeli girl hostages fell in love with the HAMAS dudes. Seems like they didn't want to leave.

Do you believe this, honestly? With statement like this. You shouldn't wonder why we don't take you seriously.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Do you believe this, honestly? With statement like this. You shouldn't wonder why we don't take you seriously.

It's just as feasible as the Zionist cope you and your kindred spirits post.

Her brother seems pretty happy and friendly with the HAMAS bois:

 

[JambledUpWords]

Palestine belongs to the Palestinians, not a bunch of Euro Jews on the make. Its that simple.

It belongs to whoever conquers it. If Jews take over Gaza, it’s theirs for the keeping. Same thing if Russia conquers Ukraine (though, they’re doing quite badly at that goal). The US conquered Mexico in 1848, and it’s how Mexico lost a good chunk of its landmass. Prior to that, the Spanish conquered the Aztecs. Arguments of native land don’t mean much if you get taken over.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

The US conquered Mexico in 1848, and it’s how Mexico lost a good chunk of its landmass.

The Southwest is pretty much Little Mexico now. And Little Guatemala. And Little Haiti. We have an open border so they can conquer the US by outnumbering everyone else.

Arabs outnumber Jews in the millions.

 

[Solid Hyrax]

It's just as feasible as the Zionist cope you and your kindred spirits post.

Her brother seems pretty happy and friendly with the HAMAS bois:
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You're not even suspicious of this behavior at all, as long as it fits your views. Do you know what being under duress means? How about the telling them to act a certain way in a threat that other hostages wouldn't be harmed? We already have statements from hostages how badly they were treated.

 

[JambledUpWords]

The Southwest is pretty much Little Mexico now. And Little Guatemala. And Little Haiti. We have an open border so they can conquer the US by outnumbering everyone else.

Arabs outnumber Jews in the millions.

Simply being outnumbered doesn’t guarantee takeover. The Spanish were greatly outnumbered compared to the Aztecs, so they had to make some alliances to take them over. In return, the tribes that aligned with the Spanish were not subject to the encomienda system.

 

[WelfareNiggerQueen]

Simply being outnumbered doesn’t guarantee takeover.

It does when nobody's fighting back. Compared to 20 years ago, the southwest is now a Brazil within the US. English there is at most extremely broken or Spanglish (ESL's are a great driver to have rights voted away), the culture is foreign, what remains of America over there is just small pockets in the more wealthy areas, any semblance of America outside of the gated communities is sold out and destroyed by giga Karen's and activist niggers in government mad about things being "too White".

 

[JambledUpWords]

Culture and language takeover is another thing that's heavily going on in the Southwest. Compared to 20 years ago, it's like going to a foreign nation.

Spanish has had a longer history in the Southwest as a language because of Spanish control. English only really became more dominant in the 19th century, specifically mid to late 19th century. The US doesn’t outline an official language in its constitution like other countries do, so there’s no government push to make English the national language. It’s just that unofficially, as it’s a commonly shared language.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

You're not even suspicious of this behavior at all, as long as it fits your views. Do you know what being under duress means? How about the telling them to act a certain way in a threat that other hostages wouldn't be harmed? We already have statements from hostages how badly they were treated.

Israel does plenty of kidnapping itself and throws Palestinian children in prison; all the prisoners that were released show evidence of torture and abuse. You make assumptions about the freed Israeli hostages without evidence, but there's plenty of evidence of what Israel did to the children it freed.

All of those claims of abuse at the hands of HAMAS are coming from third parties, not the hostages themselves.

The behavior I'm suspicious of is Israel's, since there's clear evidence it knew about the HAMAS raid over a year ago. The NY Times has a copy that details the attack but Israeli officials dismissed it and ignored specific warnings. Why would Israel ignore this? Why was security so lax? Why weren't the Israelis that lived in the area warned?

Spanish has had a longer history in the Southwest as a language because of Spanish control. English only really became more dominant in the 19th century, specifically mid to late 19th century. The US doesn’t outline an official language in its constitution like other countries do, so there’s no government push to make English the national language. It’s just that unofficially, as it’s a commonly shared language.

You only have to look north to Canada to see how a population that speaks a different language than the rest of the country can divide a nation, but at least the Quebecois are also Canadian citizens; the "migrants" streaming in through the southern border aren't even in the USA legally. Having a foreign population that doesn't/won't speak the language and has no legal status is a serious destabilizing element, and its one the Federal government has no intention of resolving. And it seems to be deliberate as now a majority of the US population is foreign born.