hbomberguy / Harry "Harris" Brewis / Slazenger Rapemachine Whiteshaf - "Rational" SJW, former SA goon/LPer, sexual harassment apologist, raised $350K+ for child abuse cult

[Wodanaz]

Nobody noticed this because KF has become complacent, lazy, stupid, and more dedicated to A&N tardrages over politics rather than funny lolcow content.

New years resolution: Stop featuring anything tangentially related to politics on the front page.
Be the change you want to see.

 

[von Hapasbourg]

Not even a hitpiece on IH could make me watch an Hbomberfag video. I do hope Internet Historian takes this with stride and ignore him and his drooling midwit fanbase.

 

[Twinkie]

Most people don't care that their dumb youtube entertainment is creatively bankrupt, improperly sourced or outright plagiarized. Like I'm still going to click on content farm shit and low-effort drama channels whenever I'm in the mood for it..

Still, I very much enjoyed the video! It was generally informative and also a masterful takedown of the gaymo serial plagiarist.

 

[Chandelier]

He deleted his twitter and patreon, with the latter resulting in a significant reduction in his income. He disabled comments on all of his videos and community posts and is down by at least 10k subs since the Hbomb video dropped.

archive of r/breadtube thread where many express their dissapointment of Somerton's plaigerism

A comment from that archive:

It's wrong to steal from BIPOC creatives. They're just so magically creative and marginalized they can't make any money off of it, even when a white man steals from them. Truly settler colonialism at work.

I'd like to remind you this guy isn't even in his thirties yet. He went from having a full head of hair in 2018 to completely bald in five years. Paul Joseph Watson is in his forties and he still has his luscious locks. If you recall Harry's Soy video, he mocked the conservative pundits at the same saying soy was feminizing men. He referenced a few papers arguing his case...but ignored the tidbits where it said it didn't have a feminizing affect on Asians, but white men. Important to note.

I've had a hard time verbalizing how I feel about Hbomb but the thing that stands out about him most to me is how usually the premise and conclusion of his videos line up with reality while the actual steps he takes to get from premise to conclusion are baffling and nonsensical.
I don't know how to describe it, it's like he's always right, but he's only ever technically right.

Back in the day when he made videos deboonking race realism he caught the eye of Shinobi Yaka, a small Welsh YouTuber who made some easy-to-digest race and sex videos. He noticed that, on his video defending Bill Nye - this was during the Bill Nye ice cream gender debacle - he didn't actually read the sources he refenced. In fact, he didn't really reference any at all. Much like Shaun, a fellow BreadTuber, he is known for picking studies he's read the abstract on without reading the rest.

How long until someone exposes Hbummergay for plagiarising his Plagiarism video?

Under transformative content you can use other people's content provided A) it's transformative and B) you aren't lifting the entire thing. Others have noted he does not extend such criticism to Hasan, who DOES steal content and is infamous for that troon Jay Exci's chair video.

Likewise, as with other Breadtubers, I doubt they personally asked any of the people they're referencing to use their work. They just cite them. Certain copyrighted material requires written consent.

 

[ReentryPhantom]

I think it's funny Hbomberguy uses the Melania Trump plagiarism situation as an example, and then complains about Phillip signaling what side of the aisle he's on by saying what he did about Sargon. Really funny. The most powerful man in the world has plagiarized numerous times. He's just on the right side of the aisle for Harris to not criticize I guess.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

Plagiarism as a tort is very hard to prove in court (as Harry explains in his video if you had watched it), which means that, yes, there is probably now enough to avoid a plagiarism claim.

Plagiarism as Harry uses it seems to be a very contextual thing. Even if he states that it's tough to prove, he seems to imply taking existing text and reworking it to be plagiarism. Is it really though? Does stealing a half assed car and repairing it to make it suitable for youself make you liable to return the car to the owner cause it's a result of their labour? Or if you're going by the breadtube social constructivist argument, if you came up with something completely original and find out that unfortunately somebody else came up with said original thing years ago while you were completely unaware, is that plagiarism? I'm not defending IH, he's definitely in the wrong with the copyright claim shit but Harry's perception of plagiarism seems to be very flimsy and amounts to "if you make what I make and I can prove that you were aware of me then that's plagiarism even if said proof is something I fabricated". The proof of awareness is all that's required, be it fabricated or otherwise which is a weak precedent in a post modern world where next to nothing is original and whatever you do now, somebody else has already done. I'm surprised considering he's a britbong commie faggot he didn't bring up how the 2000AD guys were salty about Robocop ripping off Judge Dredd, Pat mills couldn't call it plagiarism because there was no material proof despite Ed neumeyer and Paul verhoeven being aware of Judge dredd during production and even made robocop prototype models off his design. They cited judge dredd as an inspiration in the 90s long after the film released, therefore technically being plagiarism.

My point again is that IH stole this guy's article, used it to create the foundation of his narrative structure and animations, then hid the fact he had done this until called out. His response was not to compensate this person for the success he contributed to, but rather remove the video entirely and then put out an inferior knockoff to avoid owing anything.

Yeah again there is solid proof for IH copying an article but if the copying amounts to a combination of words which mean the same and have same grammar structure, then it's very flimsy and exploitable. You cannot prove awareness from similarity of content despite Harry pretty much relying on it for 75% of his evidence, you need to prove awareness and you can by adding some evidence of suppression to that similarity, which was done. For videos this applies less because videos have more specific sources and similarity is a good enough metric to prove awareness on its own but for text similarity of content is not enough to prove plagiarism because you cannot prove awareness.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Breadtubers,
None of the ideas are original in the slightest every single one of the video essays is just some dumb College gobbledygook leftism that's a dime a dozen

Also all the videos attacking Prageru are just rehashed videos that the dissonant right did like six years ago they are the most unoriginal people on YouTube and that's saying something because I literally scroll through YouTube somehow and find like six videos that are basically the exact same thing.

I don't know how YouTube allows people with tens of millions of subscribers to just describe other people's videos and somehow that's allowed but hey YouTube is always played last and use with copyright

 

[Haramburger]

Goddamn I'm only 1:12:00 into it and I'm exhausted. It's thorough research and I thought the video game reviews were interesting to catch AVGN and the Kotaku guy on, but Illuminaughty is fucking boring. Can't even properly grind more than 2 torment levels in Diablo to this shit it's so dry. This is a slog compared to Maddox's whining. Will continue on another day but viewer fucking beware, check the Cliffs Notes on this one.

Illuminaughty also got busted and cancelled for something that wasn't plagiarism, wasn't it under-paying or financially fucking over one of her slave editors? This news is way too late to be relevant, lol. Turkey Tom mopped this mess up late summer I thought.

 

[LawTwitter is Dumb]

I just hope IH response is in his next video as a joke that's just kinda in there but not super obvious. Cause his best option is to do nothing except make a joke on it since he's done everything to resolve it.

 

[Lego Man]

Goddamn I'm only 1:12:00 into it and I'm exhausted.

Glad to know that I'm not the only one to get hbomberguy fatigue. I couldn't make it beyond 45 minutes in his Fallout 3 video when that released.

 

[bremer]

Framing plagiarism as "big guy stealing from the little guy" is weird when he opens with Blair plagiarizing Netlix and Hulu documentaries. I do agree with his take about AVGN, sucks when a creative work turns into a paycheck and you're knowingly listening to some idiot's script who probably giggled to himself when he wrote "shitload of ass onion apple fuck", plagiarism or not. IH, well, it sucks, but he fixed it. Of course he expects a self-flagellation routine, but fuck off with that nonsense.
However, the entire second half video being "big GAY youtuber steals from the little GAY content creators" feels exploitative, as if the entire issue isn't that he's copying almost entire books and articles 1:1, but the fact that the GAY author's content is being copied 1:1. Of course, leading with "I'm bi, actually" is in the same vein, but he's a breadtuber; you can't expect his audience to not turn on him for attacking a gay man if he isn't gay himself!
I've never heard of Somerton before the video, then I've realized it's because he makes (well, "makes", hah!) videos for the extremely weird subset of people who see gay shit in every character interaction in an 80s cartoon and unironically use the term "gay coded" when two guys look at each other once in a movie. No big loss.

 

[Twinkie]

Under transformative content you can use other people's content provided A) it's transformative and B) you aren't lifting the entire thing. Others have noted he does not extend such criticism to Hasan, who DOES steal content and is infamous for that troon Jay Exci's chair video.

Plagiarism is an ethical concept. Copyright is a legal one. Something can be considered transformative and still plagiarized.

Illuminaughty also got busted and cancelled for something that wasn't plagiarism, wasn't it under-paying or financially fucking over one of her slave editors? This news is way too late to be relevant, lol. Turkey Tom mopped this mess up late summer I thought.

Her plagiarism is what triggered the initial scrutiny that snowballed into her downfall. The video isn't meant to be "news" or a takedown of Blaire. He was using Blaire's work as an example of plagiarism and how people get away with it (before leading into Somerton) and he did a really good job imo.

 

[ReentryPhantom]

Reminds me that in his video about the Oof sound and Tommy Tallarico, he refused to get info from the dude that knew like everything Tommy lied about and the failed Amico console because the guy was a Republican.

 

[Rio]

If I build a shitty car, and someone comes along, re-designs it, rebrands it and makes it appealing to the buyer where the original was not, they did not steal the design. They just designed a car that people liked. No amount of my bemoaning the cruelty of life will make my original design a good one, even if it was a better design's focal point of an idea that could be made better.

The article in question would be nearly impossible to outright prove in a legal sense was plagiarized anyhow, as the research / open-sourced intelligence that is used to generate it leaves a very large footprint of probability for coinciding data-paths. AT the end of the day, if you want to be a more successful producer of media, automobiles, sprockets, rockets or anything else that has to compete for attention and/or value, you need to make it appealing to the consumer of said media/etc.

If the article was so shitty, why did IH copy large chunks of it line by line for his video that you presumably think was good?

 

[Chandelier]

Plagiarism is an ethical concept. Copyright is a legal one. Something can be considered transformative and still plagiarized.

That would include nearly all of BreadTube. They're all based on copying one another.

What are some examples of content that is transformative yet plagiarized?

 

[GilaCutter]

The Narnia joke is kind of funny to me, not so much the joke itself but the fact that I, having literally never heard the joke before, was able to come up with it on my own, which to me just kind makes it seem like such an obvious gag that anybody could come up with it.

Except I had phrased it something in the lines of "so deep in the closet that you're having a chat with Aslan" but it's basically the same joke.

 

[FagDiddler]

Beyond the IH stuff in Hbombs video, with literally half of the four hour video being about James Somerton, its interesting that Harry spends all of it talking about plagiarism rather than any of the other stuff he's done, specifically with how much Somerton's lied and made shit up in the past.

Found this video by a guy talking about Somerton. He starts it by saying that he heard about Hbomb planning his video on plagiarism and decided to make his own about Somerton's other bullshit. It might be a bit telling that Hbomb actively chose to not address any of it in his video, probably because of how all of Somdeton's lies are about globohomo messaging and spreading the "everyone in the past was gay " sort of bs. Wonder if Hbomb didn't talk about it because its the sort of politisperging he supports or if its because his leftist audience wouldn't tolerate it.

I doubt its because Hbomb was doing a video solely on plagiarism, the rest of the video seems wholly secondary to Somerton, who was the biggest target of the video.

 

[namvata]

>leftoids who want to abolish all private property when someone violates their favorite jewtuber's intellectual "property" (the most phony type of property right in fucking history)

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

My point again is that IH stole this guy's article, used it to create the foundation of his narrative structure and animations, then hid the fact he had done this until called out. His response was not to compensate this person for the success he contributed to, but rather remove the video entirely and then put out an inferior knockoff to avoid owing anything.

This isn't making things right. It's not a matter of law or copyright but rather of basic honesty. He used something, made money off of it, and then when this abuse was identified just swept it under the rug.

Making a timeline of a real event does not grant you copyright on the event. It would be nice to mention the article, but definitely not plagiarism. Same as YouTubers copying the KF OPs and marked posts for their lolcow videos timelines.

If the article was some fiction then the plagiarism argument would have held weight, since it actually would have required a creative input from the writer rather tham just being busywork.

 

[Clorox Cowboy]

Beyond the IH stuff in Hbombs video, with literally half of the four hour video being about James Somerton, its interesting that Harry spends all of it talking about plagiarism rather than any of the other stuff he's done, specifically with how much Somerton's lied and made shit up in the past.

Found this video by a guy talking about Somerton. He starts it by saying that he heard about Hbomb planning his video on plagiarism and decided to make his own about Somerton's other bullshit. It might be a bit telling that Hbomb actively chose to not address any of it in his video, probably because of how all of Somdeton's lies are about globohomo messaging and spreading the "everyone in the past was gay " sort of bs. Wonder if Hbomb didn't talk about it because its the sort of politisperging he supports or if its because his leftist audience wouldn't tolerate it.

I doubt its because Hbomb was doing a video solely on plagiarism, the rest of the video seems wholly secondary to Somerton, who was the biggest target of the video.

Good, finally finished the monster of a video and I'm glad people are shitting on James Somerton. I remember thinking his queer film history video was an abridged Celluloid Closet with painful "queer jokes" thrown in, not a lick of actual film history or context for the films he was discussing. HBomber is too British for my tastes, but since he holds such high standing in the essayist crowd I hope this at least encourages a ripple effect of Youtubers going beyond just citing the single documentary or article they read.