Kelly Lenza / LividLipids / softbodytendermind / ass_child / photopotamus - "Radical body liberationist”, Intentionally Repulsive, Uber woke middle-aged SJW influencer wannabe, doxed her former therapist for getting WLS, ate her way to heart failure

Maybe I just don't remember, but I don't recall Jerry and Kelly having an open marriage? Kelly is blatantly hoping to cheat on Jerry during this con. I wonder what he thinks.

Considering that her absence from the house for furry-con won't interfere with his video game schedule, I doubt highly that Jerry gives a shit if she cheats or not. More time for him to have his incel alone time with his console without whiny fat Beaker beep-beeping nearby.

I always got the impression that they have both been checked out of the marriage for years, but never got around to properly separating or divorcing. Not even for the kids's sake, because we've seen what Kelly posts. Just pure laziness on their parts. So while I don't think they're in an open marriage, per se, I don't think Jerry would really give a shit if Kelly cheated on him at a furry con. As long as it doesn't drastically disrupt his life and vice versa, they're good.
 
So while I don't think they're in an open marriage, per se, I don't think Jerry would really give a shit if Kelly cheated on him at a furry con.
I know that furries don't have high standards, but.....with Kelly?

I think she'd rather make wild, passionate love to a bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken than to anything or anyone else, tbh.
 
Considering that her absence from the house for furry-con won't interfere with his video game schedule, I doubt highly that Jerry gives a shit if she cheats or not. More time for him to have his incel alone time with his console without whiny fat Beaker beep-beeping nearby.
But not take care of his kids, his sister can do that for him.
 
But not take care of his kids, his sister can do that for him.
Considering the matting in one of the girls' hair a ways back, which had to be cut out iirc, no one takes care of those girls.

That said, I don't blame the sister. If she's a working, rent paying tenant it's not her job to take care of other people's kids. We've all got that relative who won't raise or discipline their out of control kids and are always dumping them on others.
 
We've all got that relative who won't raise or discipline their out of control kids and are always dumping them on others.
I agree on principle, but to live in a home where you daily witness active child neglect by your own brother and lump -in-law, on your blood nieces? It takes a special kind of somebody to look at all that, shrug, write a rent check, and just go to work.

Doing nothing while witnessing neglect to the point a child’s hair becomes so matted it has to be scissored off, or hear a child trapped on a toilet and screaming to be wiped to no avail is, in itself, neglect. She’s no better than her creepy brother and his equally creepy wife. Sister in law gets no pass, she lives there, she sees it, and she lets it happen. I’m presuming relationships here, but how hard is it to pick up a comb or brush and get out the tangles before it becomes matted? To help a kid clean themselves and get off the toilet?

They’re all a bunch of trash. Those poor girls.
 
Doing nothing while witnessing neglect to the point a child’s hair becomes so matted it has to be scissored off, or hear a child trapped on a toilet and screaming to be wiped to no avail is, in itself, neglect.
Does this woman have a job? I can see helping with simpler tasks like hair brushing but wiping a child is really something a paid caregiver or parent should do, non-parents didn't sign up to deal with that.
 
I agree on principle, but to live in a home where you daily witness active child neglect by your own brother and lump -in-law, on your blood nieces? It takes a special kind of somebody to look at all that, shrug, write a rent check, and just go to work.

Doing nothing while witnessing neglect to the point a child’s hair becomes so matted it has to be scissored off, or hear a child trapped on a toilet and screaming to be wiped to no avail is, in itself, neglect. She’s no better than her creepy brother and his equally creepy wife. Sister in law gets no pass, she lives there, she sees it, and she lets it happen. I’m presuming relationships here, but how hard is it to pick up a comb or brush and get out the tangles before it becomes matted? To help a kid clean themselves and get off the toilet?

They’re all a bunch of trash. Those poor girls.
Because she'd have had exactly the same experience as other people who tried to step in on similar situations: 88% of the childcare would be dumped on her regardless of what she was doing, and the other 12% would be her trying to cope with Kelly's strategic meltdowns that she's stealing Kelly's kids away. The end result is the sister doing all of the grunt work while Kelly becomes the 'fun aunt'.

It's bloody difficult to look at what the Kellys of the world do to their children, but unless you've actually had to deal with someone with npd, it's impossible to understand just how truly batshit and insane things get, and how when you finally manage to get yourself out of the web, you leave great chunks of your soul behind you... or in this case, your nieces.

And at the end of the day, it's Jerry's responsibility to do this shit if Kelly won't.
 
Because she'd have had exactly the same experience as other people who tried to step in on similar situations: 88% of the childcare would be dumped on her regardless of what she was doing, and the other 12% would be her trying to cope with Kelly's strategic meltdowns that she's stealing Kelly's kids away. The end result is the sister doing all of the grunt work while Kelly becomes the 'fun aunt'.
Agreed, Kelly is exactly the kind of person to treat her sister in law like a live-in nanny and maid while still charging her full rent. I'm not sure if Kelly would get jealous or simply take all the credit. Either way, slave in law doing all the grunt work while Kelly pretending to be the cool one dynamic would remain.
 
3 people related to the children by blood can't even take care of them, and don't seem to want to. It's disgusting and infuriating, but yes, technically they aren't her responsibility - but that is only based on what we know. They could have some stupid arrangement.
Kelly crying about how she'll be away from them for more than 2 days is weird too. Like, they are staying home. How is this an issue? Controlling narc shit, I assume.
 
Because she'd have had exactly the same experience as other people who tried to step in on similar situations: 88% of the childcare would be dumped on her regardless of what she was doing, and the other 12% would be her trying to cope with Kelly's strategic meltdowns that she's stealing Kelly's kids away. The end result is the sister doing all of the grunt work while Kelly becomes the 'fun aunt'.
I see it a bit differently: my hunch is that Kelly would take any unasked-for intervention on the kids' behalf as a negative judgment upon her ability to raise her own kids, and react accordingly. Because, to Kelly, it's not about ensuring the kids' well-being; it's about protecting Kelly's fragile ego, and she will go to insane lengths to do that.

Narcissists can blindly neglect the shit out of their own kids—sending them off to school in dirty or ragged clothes; never establishing a proper bedtime; packing them hasty, inadequate lunches (or making the kid do it at too young an age; see: Ruby Franke); letting their hair go unbrushed so long that it mats—but the second someone steps in and tries to remedy the neglect, they're the bad guy, the one who has all the issues, and a judgmental busybody who is just trying to make the poor, put-upon parent's life harder.

They'll also put blame for the signs of neglect onto their kids: "She likes those ratty old clothes, and insists upon wearing them, even when they're dirty," "He pretends to be in bed, but sits up and plays video games all night," "It's their responsibility to pack their own lunches, and tell me when we're out of the kinds of food they need," "I keep telling her to brush her hair, but she does a half-assed job of it."

In Kelly's case, she probably blames both their "neurodivergence" and her own self-inflicted "disability" for why she can't do certain tasks: "She has sensory issues, and can't stand having her hair brushed; it's a struggle every day, and I just don't always have the spoons." However, if somebody was to offer to make sure the kid's hair got brushed (or a proper diabetic diet got followed, in the case of the other one), I'm convinced Kelly would resist it and refuse, and if she did reluctantly accept it, she'd end up being so critical and defensive toward the care provider, they'd stop.

Kelly crying about how she'll be away from them for more than 2 days is weird too. Like, they are staying home. How is this an issue? Controlling narc shit, I assume.
Yeah, it's controlling Narc shit. Everything might go well in her absence—perhaps even better than usual, since nobody will have to be walking on eggshells—and family members might realize that they don't really need Kelly's mostly-useless self around. Having grown up with a Narc parent who was occasionally gone for a couple of days at a time on scheduled trips, I can tell you that those days were a huge relief, and the rest of our family looked forward to them. The Lenza household might feel a similar weight off of their individual and collective shoulders, given a couple of days without Kelly. And I think that's what terrifies Kelly, whether she realizes it or not.

One of the fears she has expressed as a result of her battle with Long Fatness Covid is not just becoming too sick to take care of her family, but also her family deciding she was useless and they didn't need her. For her to be absent for a couple of days, and for everything to go just fine? That, to Kelly might be seen as proof that she's not really needed, and if so, that scares the shit out of her.
 
Threesomes are dumb porn-brained coomer garbage.

You can call me a religious nutjob all day long, but people like me are the ones who first brought up burning people like Kelly at the stake, and I don't think the rest of you minded so much.
I'm personally more of a drag behind horses kinda guy but I'm not one to turn my nose up at a good ol' fashioned stake burning.
 
I'm personally more of a drag behind horses kinda guy but I'm not one to turn my nose up at a good ol' fashioned stake burning.
You’d better have a whole stable full of nose blind Clydesdales doing community service to work off prancing under the influence raps for this one. No good god fearing horse deserves that kind of punishment.
 
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3 people related to the children by blood can't even take care of them, and don't seem to want to. It's disgusting and infuriating, but yes, technically they aren't her responsibility - but that is only based on what we know. They could have some stupid arrangement.
Kelly crying about how she'll be away from them for more than 2 days is weird too. Like, they are staying home. How is this an issue? Controlling narc shit, I assume.
I don't even blame the SIL for not doing the shit Kelly fails at because doing any responsibility that a narc should take care of themselves is like opening a fucking Pandora's box of nagging and boundary violations. You brush their kid's hair once and now it's your job to do every day.

While you're at it, can you also do me ten other favors? Don't forget I have muh chronic illness so I can't do it myself! How dare you suggest I hire a nanny at a decent wage to help out when I have you to do everything for me? Muh diabeetus and CHF means I need that money for tendies, fursuit fabric and a hotel to go to an event 30 minutes away!!
 
I don't even blame the SIL for not doing the shit Kelly fails at because doing any responsibility that a narc should take care of themselves is like opening a fucking Pandora's box of nagging and boundary violations. You brush their kid's hair once and now it's your job to do every day.
I think this is what @glass_houses was getting at and it's a valid point. But I'm really not sure if she would act like that or more like @Angry New Ager guessed, which is fly into a narc rage because someone doing it implies she's not a good mom.
 
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