Navy SEALs, Delta Force, and SOCOM general - The most "Special" groups in the U.S. Military

CIA created LSD to try to turn potential enemies into drooling peace loving zombies who will not revolt or be effective resistance to the goverment.
what about domestic enemies? do you suppose that the government's trying to mellow out vets with PTSD so they won't demand more benefits? or am i being schizo?
 
what about domestic enemies? do you suppose that the government's trying to mellow out vets with PTSD so they won't demand more benefits? or am i being schizo?
There are some medicinal uses of psychedelics. However, we don't know that much about the brain to know why. Also, while some people can have incredible visions of happiness and come from the trip with a new leash on life, they can also backfire terribly and trigger psychosis or PTSD from a horrible trip, depending on how your body reacts to it and your body is made up. Many people come out from psychedelics a shell of their former self.

Lately, on the Veteran circles, MDMA seems to also be a big thing. Again, there are inherent dangers with every drug and there is a lot of confirmation bias. Those who got cured the most, are going to be the most outspoken, so the sample size is not great enough or there are not enough studies to be used for certain as treatment for PTSD or "Operator Syndrome". This is a video of a Green Beret who lost his mom as a child having a good experience with Ibogaine and DMT. Really cool trip. But always keep in mind it is very experimental and nothing guarantees it won't have a bad effect on you
 
I think modern guys are overloaded as fuck.
Most injuries are from artillery and explosive shrapnel anyway, a flak jacket is lighter than body armor plates.
Just see the Ukraine war videos, people can't run from drones or retreat, they move sluggishly.
A lot of the videos I've seen of artillery turkeyshoots against foot infantry infantry in Ukraine have been them getting fixed by direct fire followed by them getting killed by indirect fire. I think I'd prefer sprinting back towards the treeline I came from in heavier armor rather than lighter. You can only become sore if you haven't become dead. Better to get shot down retreating while wearing actual armor than to die in a hole like a bitch wearing imperial russian era footwraps instead of socks.

When it comes to bush wars I can see how superiority in fire support, communications, and logistics would make personal armor less useful in comparison. You can use your outsized advantages against the lesser power to twist them into a pretzel until they submit. but in a near peer war you want your boys on the pointy end to have good armor if only for the cynical reason of retaining trained men for offensive operations.

Of course the Ruskies don't give their foot infantry assault elements good protective gear for multiple reasons, not least of which being the sheer devaluation of human life that being Russian imprints on a human being.
 
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A lot of the videos I've seen of artillery turkeyshoots against foot infantry infantry in Ukraine have been them getting fixed by direct fire followed by them getting killed by indirect fire. I think I'd prefer sprinting back towards the treeline I came from in heavier armor rather than lighter. You can only become sore if you haven't become dead. Better to get shot down retreating while wearing actual armor than to die in a hole like a bitch wearing imperial russian era footwraps instead of socks.

When it comes to bush wars I can see how superiority in fire support, communications, and logistics would make personal armor less useful in comparison. You can use your outsized advantages against the lesser power to twist them into a pretzel until they submit. but in a near peer war you want your boys on the pointy end to have good armor if only for the cynical reason of retaining trained men for offensive operations.

Of course the Ruskies don't give their foot infantry assault elements good protective gear for multiple reasons, not least of which being the sheer devaluation of human life that being Russian imprints on a human being.
I think you are just afraid of showing your fellow unit members that you skip leg day so you are afraid of shorty shorts (jk, thanks for the info!)


Natty or not? Tattoos ?/10? Cringe ?/10?

Be honest now
 
@Justtocheck, you're extremely close to having this thread able to be moved. But you need to archive the links in the OP. The Wikipedia articles are nice background info but they're not for forever and can easily be edited, censored, or outright deleted in the future.
 
All the Navy Seals spec ops units with no match for Pure jihadism get f***** you lost to a bunch of goat herders in Afghanistan and now they have Sharia law by
Thank a lot for dead Navy Seals.

Spec ops units only useful in a few things taking out high value targets blowing s*** up and clearing out obstructions ahead of the main force and of reconnaissance and intelligence gathering.

None of this auntie terrorism spec ops stuff works because that doesn't address the underlying reason that all of these people are terrorists hint they don't want you in their country or like you or your f****** them over in some way sending a bunch of homosexual looking drug addicts at them with high tech you isn't going to make them change their opinion of you
 
All the Navy Seals spec ops units with no match for Pure jihadism get f***** you lost to a bunch of goat herders in Afghanistan and now they have Sharia law by
Thank a lot for dead Navy Seals.

Spec ops units only useful in a few things taking out high value targets blowing s*** up and clearing out obstructions ahead of the main force and of reconnaissance and intelligence gathering.

None of this auntie terrorism spec ops stuff works because that doesn't address the underlying reason that all of these people are terrorists hint they don't want you in their country or like you or your f****** them over in some way sending a bunch of homosexual looking drug addicts at them with high tech you isn't going to make them change their opinion of you
Why are you censoring yourself?
 
However, the SEALs, from the bin Laden raid fame, have attracted perhaps the type of people who'd join for the attention.
I didn't see it mentioned but BUD/S has turned into a meat grinder. Seaman Kyle Mullen died during Hellweek. and there were other reports that Cadre shifted cultures from weeding out weak candidates to just beating them down. Talk is that there were a few guys with broken legs or ankles being forced to run or quit. I'm guessing the commandants solution to the attention seekers is to grind everyone down until there's no one left.
 
The text to speech software I use sensors out curse words automatically I don't feel like changing it in settings cuz I'm lazy or maybe you can't it doesn't bother me that much
What's wrong with typing? Did a SEAL cut your spine with a hatchet, and now you can't use your fingers?
I didn't see it mentioned but BUD/S has turned into a meat grinder. Seaman Kyle Mullen died during Hellweek. and there were other reports that Cadre shifted cultures from weeding out weak candidates to just beating them down. Talk is that there were a few guys with broken legs or ankles being forced to run or quit. I'm guessing the commandants solution to the attention seekers is to grind everyone down until there's no one left.
Yeah, in the OP I meantioned how brutal BUD/S is and there's this culture of fear of getting rolled out if you show weakness. And in page 2 @Breadbassket quoted an article on how they treat the ones who don't make it or get beaten into not making it. It's retarded to do this to young fit men. By the way, I'm linking the article in the OP, thanks!
 
Yeah, in the OP I meantioned how brutal BUD/S is and there's this culture of fear of getting rolled out if you show weakness. And in page 2 @Breadbassket quoted an article on how they treat the ones who don't make it or get beaten into not making it. It's retarded to do this to young fit men.
2021(?)-2023 buds/s isn't the bud/s of GWOT. You can see dudes get med rollbacks in the tv doc "BUD/S class 234". They're outright denying it, and the commandant or whatever is one of the red team goons. Green Berets were the chillest dudes i met, and SEALS were always fucking weird even if they were ok dudes.
By the way, I'm linking the article in the OP, thanks!

Kyle Mullen's death has a wiki article.
 
2021(?)-2023 buds/s isn't the bud/s of GWOT. You can see dudes get med rollbacks in the tv doc "BUD/S class 234". They're outright denying it, and the commandant or whatever is one of the red team goons. Green Berets were the chillest dudes i met, and SEALS were always fucking weird even if they were ok dudes.
Yeah, I saw the 234 documentary too. If I remember correctly, it was one of the officers candidates that was kept getting picked on by the instructors for not "putting out" when the dude straight had pneumonia and told them when confronted, and got rolled back. Like, what was supposed to do? Make his lungs healthy with the power of his mind? Fucking hell.

Edit: You guys gotta check out O'Neills twitter. Dude's unhinged. It's hilarious. A thread about him might be warranted.



https://archive.is/ILBAJ
(ps. Rob don't be a little bitch about the DMV and shitty pay, greed pig)
 
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The reason why the attrition rate is so high and health issues are up is because zoomers are so low T and unhealthy. The standards haven't gotten harder. If anything they've gotten easier. The highest T zoomer men have lower T than the lowest T men in the 1950s. Even professional athletes are suffering higher rates of injuries than ever before despite playing fewer minutes.

Speaking of Eddie Gallagher who was discussed earlier, I actually went and listened to the trial tesimony, and I'll be damned. He was telling the truth. The prosecution witnesses were so blatantly bullshitting I'm amazed it ever went to trial. If you've got time in the car to kill, all of the videos are worth a listen.



As for SF, one of the most disturbing videos I've ever seen was of 4 Green Berets getting into a firefight with one Jordanian and literally just cowering and begging not to be shot. 3 were killed and one survived. Their body language was that of scared children with no training. Standards must be nonexistent at this point thanks to the recruiting crisis.
 
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The reason why the attrition rate is so high and health issues are up is because zoomers are so low T and unhealthy. The standards haven't gotten harder. If anything they've gotten easier. The highest T zoomer men have lower T than the lowest T men in the 1950s. Even professional athletes are suffering higher rates of injuries than ever before despite playing fewer minutes.
That is the dumbest take I've seen in this thread. Professional athletes like pitchers are suffering higher rates of injuries because they are being pushed harder and physically have to compete more. Having to throw +90 milers game after game is going to fuck up with your biomechanics, no matter how well conditioned you are.


And please do explain to me how low T has anything to do with bacterial pneumonia from being in the ocean for days and repetitive stress injuries from running in boots. BUD/S has a really intense physical screening program before you even get in, so they are not getting the fattie zoomies. And people know they have to train for max standards in the screening and are still getting crushed. The dude who died was a former star defensive lineman (Kyle Mullen). And, the best part, now think about this, why the fuck should low T matter, since everyone there is chugging steroids? Do you know who goes to BUD/S? Former High School or college athletes. And those dudes start doping since they are 15-16. Please stop watching boomer TV and getting boomer lore from whatever you watch.

Speaking of Eddie Gallagher who was discussed earlier, I actually went and listened to the trial tesimony, and I'll be damned. He was telling the truth. The prosecution witnesses were so blatantly bullshitting I'm amazed it ever went to trial. If you've got time in the car to kill, all of the videos are worth a listen.
I'll have to watch the videos. Though, who the hell recorded that? I thought it was illegal, not that I'd be surprised coming from the SEALs.
 
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If you want Israeli special forces acting cowish, there's this episode that occured a few weeks ago. Some of the soldiers involved were from the IDF Alpinist Unit (the guy is dressed in one of their coveralls):
After the pride flags in Gaza, the IDF decided to bring a bit of the same energy to the Lebanese border:
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Last Thursday, an appearance by the singer Avihu Pinhasov resulted in reservists consuming alcohol and dancing recklessly with their weapons. The entire company involved was removed from combat duty for the weekend. (The fact that this was meant as a punishment says a lot about the IDF and the whole muh unmotivated conscript army BS.)

Video of Pinhasov performing at an officer's wedding recently:
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You will never be a real hero. You have no honor, you have no moral code, you have no professionalism. You are a homosexual man twisted by PEDs and reparative surgery into a crude mockery of an infantryman's perfection.

All the “validation” you get from the country is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you for being a tax dollar drain, an addict and a fuck-up. Your parents and community are disgusted and ashamed of you, your behavior and greed. Your “friends” laugh at your sleeved-tattooed roided convict look. Nice ball-cap bro. The people you "coach" and give "motivational talks" to, are only in the room because their boss forced them to. They hate your guts with a passion because they know you violated an oath to be a quiet professional, servant of the people. And now you have the gall to tell others how to follow theirs.

You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning, after popping your painkillers, and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, the drugs will help, the TBI will disappear, the Northern Alliance still has a chance, those 20 years of GWOT weren't in vain. But deep inside, you know the truth. You feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight. You know you dedicated your life and health to a lost cause and performed evil while doing so. Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy another overpriced $2.000 pistol and die in your shower from a self-inflicted gunshot wound while blackout drunk.

Your gay lover Jose will find you, heartbroken but relieved that he no longer has to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment of being the top in the relationship with an "elite operator" who cries like a bitch about how terrible it was to fight illiterate mountain herders. He’ll bury you in Arlington with a headstone marked with your birth name, your trident, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know that a fag with no sense of honor and no sense of pride is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton with a hole in the head, representing a 15 million dollar lost investment your lifelong training cost the taxpayer.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back. The white flag of the Taliban is still up in Kabul.
 
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