hbomberguy / Harry "Harris" Brewis / Slazenger Rapemachine Whiteshaf - "Rational" SJW, former SA goon/LPer, sexual harassment apologist, raised $350K+ for child abuse cult

[Cheeseknife]

No I take his sarcasm and humor as him being retarded and unfunny.

This is the correct response.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

Found a guy on Twitter whose friend apparently interviewed Lucas Reilly himself via email about the whole Internet Historian plagiarism thing. From it, he learned that IH didn't talk to Lucas Reilly himself about the matter, but IH did talk to Minute Media lawyers about it, Minute Media being the legal owners of Lucas Reilly's article. One can infer from this that the legal issues between IH and Minute Media have been dealt with, however there might still be outstanding ethical issues between IH and Lucas Reilly.

Spoiler: the whole email conversation, in order

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[HarveyMCR]

You are correct that Harry is not abiding by his own rules, but Fair Use does protect him if he provides a source and still adds his own commentary.

I agree with 90% of what you said, but that I still disagree that this would be considered fair use. I encourage you to watch this video by Tom Scott on the DMCA and Fair Use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwo5qc78QU&ab_channel=TomScott

 

[grump]

hbg is a throbbing wiener so I don't want to give him a view let alone watch a 4 hour video. Is there some TLDW? Who plagiarized who?

 

[Day of the Cope]

So, apparently online weirdos are trying to cancel Wendigoon by calling him a "right-wing fascist Christian fanatic" and I fully attribute it to my man being in IH's Cave video.

Somehow, I fucking knew Wendigoon would get dragged into this but I didn't say anything because I hoped it wouldn't happen.

 

[Watcher]

The Gamer from Mars released a video about the fallout occurring with Internet Historian right now.

But the dude had animation, voice acting, SFX, music and whatnot - that in my book is transformative enough even moreso because it's an article about a HISTORICAL EVENT, which explains the previous "could" part as since it's an accounting of a historical event, in order to be as truthful and transparent as possible you HAVE to use pre-written info.

Transformativeness isn't defined as how much work was put into the production. It's defined by "does it provide a different purpose to the original work". Not all instances of parody for example are fair use. One of the best examples of transformative media is criticism. IE: You include part of a work to critique it. In this case he's reading off an article while providing animation over it. It's essentially replacing the original work.

Something to keep in mind is this is not a victimless crime. The original author spent months researching this story and was likely paid a pittance for it. Whereas IH just read his article to some animation he commissioned and made 6 figures off it without even writing his name in the description. Had IH reached out to the company and received permission or just paid them some of the money from it, this wouldn't have been an issue. Or if he just didn't read off the article and instead made a unique script. But instead he did it this way which was the worst option possible.

 

[Chandelier]

I agree with 90% of what you said, but that I still disagree that this would be considered fair use. I encourage you to watch this video by Tom Scott on the DMCA and Fair Use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jwo5qc78QU&ab_channel=TomScott

I doubt Harris ever bought licensing fees for anything the way Tom Scott did, and Scott more or less hints he can still get nabbed for copyright infringement. Memes - such as what Article 13 planned to do - would be an infringement; nearly everything on the Internet would be, including fanart and arrangements (which Scott does mention in the video). I don't know if Harris would be thrown before a court for these infringements; again, he'd probably claim Fair Use.

No one writes lengthy letters to copyright holders to react/transform their work.

Which reminds me: Scott himself paid for licensing to use Shutterstock images, but did he ask video game companies or gamers to use their content? Everyone gets nabbed.

The original author spent months researching this story and was likely paid a pittance for it.

By likely ripping off obscure and well known research while being paid by an Israeli media company that was unwilling to pay him his dues?

 

[Cheeseknife]

So, a 4-hour video with as much production value as it has results in IH losing a mere 1% of his subs while faggot James Somerton takes a walk of shame.

(I do so love seeing the Left eat their own.)

Umm...not sure how else to put it, but...this is a win. I can find nothing wrong with this. Has AVGN suffered anything? How about xQc?

Yeah, this is pretty much a win.

Can anyone see ANY downsides to this?

 

[SlipNHonkMach2]

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So, apparently online weirdos are trying to cancel Wendigoon by calling him a "right-wing fascist Christian fanatic" and I fully attribute it to my man being in IH's Cave video.

Somehow, I fucking knew Wendigoon would get dragged into this but I didn't say anything because I hoped it wouldn't happen.

Dear lord he doesn't understand to never give a response to this crap nor to address what he identifies or doesn't identify as. The point is they identify him as a far right bigot regardless if he views himself as a leftist. It's never enough for them unless he's sacrificed at the altar of progress. Oh and he shouldn't have mentioned god, that alone is worth his death to his left leaning peers.

 

[Retink Retunk]

Hell, what about Silent Lets Plays? Null already said it was a gray area, but the moment you are just playing the game in absolute silence, something like a Visual Novel just becomes like "playing the game" right then and there.

I'd agree that would be infringing on copy right, but I don't think it's particularly useful to point to an extreme case such as this when talking about more general aspects of the genre.

The Gamer from Mars released a video about the fallout occurring with Internet Historian right now.

Gamer from Mars is surprisingly chill about most things, but I think he's a bit too nice to Hbomber. I guess it's because he's not really a youtuber, he mostly sells ad space to others.

 

[NuPerezzorcjunmunospolkos]

Hrewis Barry already has over 6 million views on his Breadtube Snyder Cut. I'm used to his shit being popular but 6 million is like the average lifetime views his stuff is sure to get. I would not be surprised if we see more long term ramifications.

I'm fairly interested to see if someone big and influential enough will be able to make a proper response video without being pedantic (aka the video can't be what a lot of this thread has been the past few days.)

 

[Slimy Time]

Okay Farmers, here's the golden question. Did HB's fart huffing tribute to the sound of his own voice convince you? Did you immediately go unsub from any of those creators because,gosh darn it, plagiarism is where I draw the line buddy. You can lie and steal from me and call me slurs for days.... but they better be your own words or at least properly sourced. Or like me, did you not give a fuck cause it Youtube nigger, and some feasing britbong tattle tailing on video producers for lifting scripts is beyond gay as fuck.

No because the second his bald man baby head appeared on screen I closed the video and came here to laugh at him having a soy bean shaped head.

 

[Tablet County]

Hrewis Barry already has over 6 million views on his Breadtube Snyder Cut. I'm used to his shit being popular but 6 million is like the average lifetime views his stuff is sure to get. I would not be surprised if we see more long term ramifications.

I'm fairly interested to see if someone big and influential enough will be able to make a proper response video without being pedantic (aka the video can't be what a lot of this thread has been the past few days.)

It's almost like bringing up a popular youtuber will rake in views regardless of what you say about him.
Maybe I'm seeing patterns where there aren't any, but I wonder if this is a trend with breadtubers? I remember that jackoff EthanIsOnline briefly made waves (and for once it wasn't with his doughy physique) when he made a video about modern art where he mocked about a PragerU video and a Critikal stream where he publicly talked shit about artists like Jackson Pollock. Part of the motivation for the video was probably that Ethan was personally offended that Charlie dared to have an opinion, but I wonder too if it was entirely for clout? And I wonder if Harris had similar motives?

 

[NuPerezzorcjunmunospolkos]

It's almost like bringing up a popular youtuber will rake in views regardless of what you say about him.
Maybe I'm seeing patterns where there aren't any, but I wonder if this is a trend with breadtubers? I remember that jackoff EthanIsOnline briefly made waves (and for once it wasn't with his doughy physique) when he made a video about modern art where he mocked about a PragerU video and a Critikal stream where he publicly talked shit about artists like Jackson Pollock. Part of the motivation for the video was probably that Ethan was personally offended that Charlie dared to have an opinion, but I wonder too if it was entirely for clout? And I wonder if Harris had similar motives?

After years of watching Bhomh, its pretty clear to me, at least, that he just likes nerd shit and making fun of right wing politics for his own enjoyment. A sort of left wing cultural troll if I had to describe it. He doesn't feel like other breadtubers to me. His brand of cunty smugness sets him apart where the rest try to be these serious philosophers that are really hard to vibe with.

His Vaccine video and this current one are the only times where I feel he was actually upset about the topic. Vaccines because child abuse for money, this one because it, as someone who spends 10 months at a time per video, personally offended him.

This isn't his usual style, and he didn"t intend to become some internet hitman in the process. His next videos sound like they'll be more of his usual stuff and not drama oritented like this last one.

 

[Cheeseknife]

It's almost like bringing up a popular youtuber will rake in views regardless of what you say about him.
Maybe I'm seeing patterns where there aren't any, but I wonder if this is a trend with breadtubers? I remember that jackoff EthanIsOnline briefly made waves (and for once it wasn't with his doughy physique) when he made a video about modern art where he mocked about a PragerU video and a Critikal stream where he publicly talked shit about artists like Jackson Pollock. Part of the motivation for the video was probably that Ethan was personally offended that Charlie dared to have an opinion, but I wonder too if it was entirely for clout? And I wonder if Harris had similar motives?

This is one of those existential things where you realize the YouTubers you follow used to talk about Star Wars or Halo or League of Legends or some other shit like that. And now all they talk about is other YouTubers.

Parasocialism is a disease.

 

[Well Intentioned]

That is not fair use. You are right that fair use requires consideration of multiple criteria, but "illustrative purposes" is not one of them.

Again it depends on whether it is for commercial or non-profit usage. Educational use (such as quoting something) is absolutely something that falls under fair usage.

The very first factor is the purpose of the fair usage. Commentary absolutely falls under that.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9783148?hl=en

In the United States, works of commentary, criticism, research, teaching, or news reporting may be considered fair use. In the EU, more limited exceptions are recognized and the use must fit into specific categories, such as quotation, criticism, review, caricature, parody, and pastiche. Other countries/regions have a concept called fair dealing that may work differently.

To flip your point around, academic work would cease to exist if every time I quoted from a published source I'd have to buy a license for something. Yeah, yeah, I know the predictable response to that particular point.

If it were, news reporters/paparazzi/journalistic photographers would not exist because why would anyone pay them?

Look at the fourth factor of fair usage: effects on potential market. That's why I said if the Oz/Avatar clips were being done to make gags and weren't really offering anything in the way of commentary, he'd be running afoul of copyright abuse and was agreeing with you. But taking Harlan Ellison's statements from a talk show interview to provide context and offering commentary on an issue isn't.

You could just rip off the footage of the [news story] from someone else. This is not like even something up for debate. The courts routinely hear copyright cases like this all the time. Just displaying a video to demonstrate something or give an example of someone is not fair use.

Ripping an entire video, yes. Quoting a small portion of it, for a specific purpose, and attributing it? No. You're conflating different things.

Do people just steal videos for demonstration purposes anyways? Yes. Large corporations have learned that suing small YouTubers for using a clip of your movie is REALLY bad PR. Plus, memes and trends are more powerful advertising tools than they could possibly reclaim in money. Whoever filmed that video of Becky is not making any money from this video essay, and no exposure from the discussions that come from this video are benefiting them in any way.

I'm not sure you understand how any of this shit you're talking about works, but, uh, godspeed.

The point of my comment was that this fucking dweeb says repeatedly "People plagiarize because they don't respect the people they're stealing from". I am pointing out that he is doing the exact thing he criticizes in the video. He is stealing video from someone because he does not believe videography is a medium deserving of not being stolen. He doesn't believe that the time and effort spent buying a camera, lighting a studio, arranging her to speak, or editing the video outweighs the benefit he gets from stealing it. Which to be fair, I absolutely agree with. 99.999999999% of the time, I don't give a shit if someone is technically committing copyright theft.

My point is that this Breadtube/Communist/Loser is a hypocrite and is guilty of the same crimes that he accuses others of committing.

He's a knob, but from what I've seen he's been adhering to what proper attribution/sourcing should be, aside from what I've mentioned.

I have no real dog in this fight, although I realize I'm not going to get anywhere here.

 

[Cheeseknife]

This is the same scenario talk-radio went through in the late 80s and early 90's once Rush Limbaugh revolutionized it

Exactly right.

I wanted to add that the Left has a history as far as the Vietnam War for trying to convince you using images, slogans, and phrases to change your mind whereas the Right uses words. Rush Limbaugh delivered his message to people who might be stuck in their trucks for hours at a time and had to necessarily sit down and listen to someone speak.

Harris shows he is a child of that Vietnam Era propaganda where he necessarily relies on striking imagery and video in order to convince you of anything. Leftists must necessarily rely on such tactics because they are inherently unable to argue their positions intellectually.

 

[CodeMeister]

What IH did was transformative, he didn't just read the article as is, he added his own commentary and animations on it

Hbomberguy is retarded faggot whose video will backfire in a few more weeks.
People are already pointing out how she simps for Hasan and other streamers and someone will go after him.

IH is unscathed from this and will soon gain public sympathy.
People know and appreciate hardwork and can see how much effort he puts into his videos.

Mental floss being an Israeli shit and kiking it up to the maxx trying to extort shekels from IH shouldn't surprise anyone.

 

[Señora Airi]

Okay Farmers, here's the golden question. Did HB's fart huffing tribute to the sound of his own voice convince you? Did you immediately go unsub from any of those creators because,gosh darn it, plagiarism is where I draw the line buddy. You can lie and steal from me and call me slurs for days.... but they better be your own words or at least properly sourced. Or like me, did you not give a fuck cause it Youtube nigger, and some feasing britbong tattle tailing on video producers for lifting scripts is beyond gay as fuck.

I honestly didn't watch the video and only got the jist from here. I refuse to watch or listen to a multihour video of a man verbally masturbating on how certain creators should bow before the crowd due to them not citing, whilst giving other creators a mere slap on the wrist for the same crime.

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So, apparently online weirdos are trying to cancel Wendigoon by calling him a "right-wing fascist Christian fanatic" and I fully attribute it to my man being in IH's Cave video.

Somehow, I fucking knew Wendigoon would get dragged into this but I didn't say anything because I hoped it wouldn't happen.

Of course they want to slander the Christian southerner. But when has he even been fascist, let alone bring up politics outside of the ideology video, where he never showed favoritism towards any of them. I hope this prunes his audience, cause I do want more Sunday Stories with him in his suit, on an autumn day.

 

[Georgio Cocklord]

So turns out this newest video is a hitpiece against James Somerton and others triggered mainly because Somerton had a fight with Jessie Gender about Nebula a year ago. He claimed he was being unfairly gatekept from getting into Nebula by James Earl and they saw him as a threat to Nebula due to his plagiarism allegations. Hbombs producer KatLo works for Nebula and she was the one who found his plagiarism allegations from 2020 to effectively give them a reason to keep him away. Theres some stuff about Nebula money which I dont know much on but people can do research on that. Anyways the production for Hbombs video started in May of 23 and this twitter fight was in Dec of 22, assuming the script was written sometime in March, KatLo sat on the allegations for 4 months and worked with Hbomb to manufacture this video. It is an infighting situation, they didnt want him on Nebula cause "it would reflect bad on them" and the video was made not out of altruism but to effectively kill his career Cosa Nostra style so he wouldnt bother them again and as a bonus they could keep Nebula exclusive.

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Even fucking SA got in on it

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In hindsight with this info, its pretty easy to see how effectively they mobilized post the video release and how the video was manufactured itself. Somerton was meant to be kept out of nebula and to ensure he doesnt get uppity about it to the public they made the video to kill his career, excommunicado from the internet. Everything on top of that including the IH stuff was just targeted character assassinations to add to the pile. I couldnt get some of the links cause idk enough methods to dig for info but I hope someone does cause I really want to see more of breadtuber faggotry and their maoist nonsense, step out of line get whacked shit.