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[JJLiautaud]

Has jersh released the fuckcars gum road bonus episode?

 

[Markass the Worst]

Has jersh released the fuckcars gum road bonus episode?

See:

Ok so good as my word I made a write up of Josh's Gumroad episode on fuckcars.

 

[quaawaa]

/r/fuckcars and I agree that places like this should be common in the US:




I don't know, maybe in one of the many surface parking lots or in the five story parking garage?

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Thread full of excuses why they can't ride in perfectly good bike lanes:



This Massachusetts cyclist doesn't use bike lanes because they're level with the sidewalk and have traffic lights:

Another person saying they don't use lanes like this because of traffic lights:

This British cyclist refuses to use the bike lane because he doesn't want to properly merge into traffic:

This Denver cyclist doesn't use them out of habit:

Turns out protected bike lanes don't actually protect from anything (because most car-bike accidents occur at intersections, which are always unprotected):

The bike lane looks horrible:

Guess they should've painted it red like the Dutch and then these fools would love it.


This exchange was hilarious:

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Ironic considering all of the cargo bike Christmas tree hauling posts:


It sure looks to me like the truck is hauling the tree.

This post was so dumb that even other urbanists called OP out:



Of course, there are still plenty of dumbasses:


Minivans can do everything pickup trucks can do:


These comments are proof they've never seen a minivan or truck in real life. A minivan, contrary to the name is a large vehicle, larger than all non-full size SUVs on the road:

Look at how the cargo area of the F-150 is twice the size of the cargo area of the minivan with the third row folded down, and this is a truck with a 5.5' bed, literally the shortest one available.

Someone says that if modern trucks can't carry lumber then why does he see so many trucks loading lumber at the lumberyard:

The response will make @Yamamura rage.

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/r/fuckcars discusses how they will be the true survivors in the apocalypse, while the dumbass truck bros starve to death after running out of gas:

OP's video:

probably the best prepper vehicle ever​

Hi, there! Are you a doomsday prepper? Are you afraid that a foreign government – uh, might come after you, or might it be your own government, or the volcanic explosion will wreak such chaos to our food chain that everyone will… it'll be every man for themselves, either way.

You might be stashing all kinds of stuff, but have you stashed a bicycle? You see, in such a chaotic scenario, especially a wartime one, uh, the Great Powers will first try to use their heavy machinery. But their heavy machinery is limited in a way that this machinery is not. I might recommend to you, uh, that you read the book by Fitzpatrick, "The Bicycle in Wartime." Very good read, especially if you're a doomsday prepper, especially if you think that shit might really hit the fan.

So maybe instead of stashing all those factory products, all those factory products up in your home, and you know, having a vehicle for this and a vehicle for that… Ooh! A turkey vulture! You might consider a bicycle, which requires no fuel, has very simple parts, is easy to maintain, and is not stopped by the sorts of obstacles – obstacles – that anything from a tank to a Kia Sportage is stopped by. See what I'm saying? See what I'm saying? All right, enough of that!

Spoiler: YouTube

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Rubber is a type of tree and bikes need tires as well. Worst case scenario cars could always use solid wheels like carriages and early cars did:

To OP's credit, he did acknowledge that bikes also need tires:



They also seem to believe the farms close to a city grow enough food to support all of the urban residents.



Diesel engines can run on biodiesel, gas turbines can run on any flammable liquid, electric cars can be powered by any source of electricity until the battery wears out, and you can power a car with nothing but wood (archive):

Again to OP's credit, he does recognize this:

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They loved the covid lockdowns so much they want them again to force people to stop driving:

The moron doesn't realize that the workers who provided him "electricity, groceries, communications, entertainment, and education" still went to work while he sat at home terrified of the common cold.
OP's response:

He then gets asked what about factories and other jobs that can't work remote? OP says it's not a big deal because clothes last for six generations:


OP is so crazy that it feels like he must be a troll:

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[Lady Bizness]

The real reason kids don't walk to school has nothing to do with cars or urbanism. It's because for the past 30 years, public schools have been pushing shit like D.A.R.E. to convince the average parent that there was a crack dealer around every corner, and they're totally interested in getting your 10 year old hooked. Meanwhile the feminists with shit like Stranger Danger managed to convince the American public that there were perverts with white windowless vans scoping out every school and everything with a penis is just a rape waiting to happen, to the point where men can't so much as ask a school-aged girl for directions without some Karen calling the FBI. But acknowledging that would require taking a deeper look at things and not devoting every waking second to "dab on da carbrain".

While I do think safeguarding has gone insane alongside safety culture in general,

Spoiler: Stranger Danger PL

back in the early 90s, every one of my girlfriends who lived in the next neighborhood over had been flashed by this one dude in their way to school. He was eventually arrested after being more bold closer to campus. Multiple times I had literal man-in-van asking me, a little girl, for directions and also one attempt to open a car door to knock me off my bike because...? Middle aged beaner pedo creep in an El Camino. Still remember that one.

Current neighborhood though, I'd feel safe letting my kids walk as long as they aren't alone. Honestly, I think a lot of the chauffeuring is because these kids are pussies who don't like the nuisance of climate or physical exertion.

 

[F-14 Tomcat]

They also seem to believe the farms close to a city grow enough food to support all of the urban residents.

I hate this idea of total societal collapse where everything just stops on a dime and never comes back. I blame the zombie fad for influencing everyone's idea of a crisis. Also lol at being super duper concerned about control when you need ID to buy bus and train tickets

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

/r/fuckcars is always crying about "we teach our kids to be carbrains" and "muh dropping kids off at school" but they never take the time to address how buses pick up kids early and arrive late (basically pick up at 7, drop off at 4) and are usually full of hoodlums (to say nothing of redistricting, which prevents "walking to school"), which creates a negative perception of public transportation. I wonder why.

/fuckcars were the kids dropped off in the minivan / Cadillac Escalade by their stay at home mother.

 

[Xarpho's Return]

/fuckcars were the kids dropped off in the minivan / Cadillac Escalade by their stay at home mother.

Yes, but we also know the real answer they're joined at the hip with other progressive causes, so they can't criticize busing (good because of racial/socioeconomic equity) or crime (because of the race that most of the miscreants tend to be).

 

[Baraka Obama]

The real reason kids don't walk to school has nothing to do with cars or urbanism. It's because <lolwut>

Kids are not walking to school because both parents are working.

You realize under 10 you pretty well are legally obligated to not allow children to go off on their own, right? It's like a handoff procedure.

If you're going into work anyway might as well just drop by and take your kids to school by car.

I tried doing a walk 15 mins in with my son, walk home, then drive or some variety with bus and it wasn't workable, instead I'm dropping kids off via car with before-school childcare at 8am. It was even harder with a younger child in daycare at physically different place like it's just a matter of logistics.

When I was a kid say when I was 4 before I started school my mother would walk my two older siblings in and I would walk with them, then we would walk home and she would look after me during the day. Of course all of this is easy with a stay at home mom.

Why not a school bus? Might make sense for someone in a rural area but they're late like 60% of the time, get completely cancelled in the slightest bit of snow, and they are driven by fucking maniacs.

 

[Yamamura]

Someone says that if modern trucks can't carry lumber then why does he see so many trucks loading lumber at the lumberyard:

The response will make @Yamamura rage.

I find it interesting that they keep having this rose tinted glasses view about what older trucks were like in their mind. Also "more reliable", what are they smoking? It's sort of funny to me fuckcars has the same opinions about trucks as someone's "they don't make 'em like the used to" uncle at Thanksgiving.

/r/fuckcars discusses how they will be the true survivors in the apocalypse, while the dumbass truck bros starve to death after running out of gas:

OP's video:

probably the best prepper vehicle ever​

I'm not extremely knowledgeable about prepping myself, but I can guarantee most of these redditors lack the capability to survive. What I've heard from people who are into this sort of thing is you want a bug out motorcycle with some jerry cans.

If you think about what you would really need to bring on a bicycle at minimum to realistically survive: some miniature gas stoves and tanks, a tent for shelter, food rations, clean water and water filters. This weight adds up, combined with the fact if you're traveling long distances you're dependent on your own energy to pedal the bike, especially off road. The benefit of riding a motorcycle is you aren't limited to your own energy and aren't constantly expending it while you're moving. Conserving your own energy is important, because it determines how much food and water you're consuming.

I hate this idea of total societal collapse where everything just stops on a dime and never comes back. I blame the zombie fad for influencing everyone's idea of a crisis. Also lol at being super duper concerned about control when you need ID to buy bus and train tickets

People who fantasize about this type of scenario are extremely naive to think they're going to become the kings in this sort of world. Realistically very few people would actually survive this type of event. Most of them don't really realize how much we take for granted the services we use everyday, such as clean water and power. This isn't like playing heckin Fallout.

They also seem to believe the farms close to a city grow enough food to support all of the urban residents.

I ask them where exactly is this walkable 15 minute city close to a farm? After the events of 2020 they really don't think this walkable city is going to have looting and theft everywhere. They also misunderstand the point of a bunker. The idea of the bunker is they're trying to hunker down away from other people to avoid the initial onslaught of looting and killing that's occurring above while consuming the rations they have stockpiled.

The only people who have a better chance of surviving is someone who already lives off the grid and is able to homestead.

 

[Baraka Obama]

I'm not extremely knowledgeable about prepping myself

The only people who have a better chance of surviving is someone who already lives off the grid and is able to homestead.

You're already doing better than reddit.

 

[WelperHelper99]

/r/fuckcars is always crying about "we teach our kids to be carbrains" and "muh dropping kids off at school" but they never take the time to address how buses pick up kids early and arrive late (basically pick up at 7, drop off at 4) and are usually full of hoodlums (to say nothing of redistricting, which prevents "walking to school"), which creates a negative perception of public transportation. I wonder why.

Almost like the government solution is inferior to the private sector

Thread full of excuses why they can't ride in perfectly good bike lanes:



This Massachusetts cyclist doesn't use bike lanes because they're level with the sidewalk and have traffic lights:

Another person saying they don't use lanes like this because of traffic lights:

This British cyclist refuses to use the bike lane because he doesn't want to properly merge into traffic:

This Denver cyclist doesn't use them out of habit:

Turns out protected bike lanes don't actually protect from anything (because most car-bike accidents occur at intersections, which are always unprotected):

The bike lane looks horrible:

Guess they should've painted it red like the Dutch and then these fools would love it.

You're given a bike lane like you asked for and refused to use it. Induced demand my ass. And then those lanes fuck with me and make driving hell

Ironic considering all of the cargo bike Christmas tree hauling posts:


It sure looks to me like the truck is hauling the tree.

The tree may be hanging out but it is indeed hauling it.

Minivans can do everything pickup trucks can do:


These comments are proof they've never seen a minivan or truck in real life. A minivan, contrary to the name is a large vehicle, larger than all non-full size SUVs on the road:

Look at how the cargo area of the F-150 is twice the size of the cargo area of the minivan with the third row folded down, and this is a truck with a 5.5' bed, literally the shortest one available.

The argument that minivans can haul shit as well as trucks is laughable. The weight restrictions alone puts hauling stuff like rocks for say, a garden project, mostly out of reach

 

[Xarpho's Return]

OP says it's not a big deal because clothes last for six generations:

Clothes wear out very quickly. I'm not sure where the "six generations" even comes from--no one is wearing clothes from 200 years ago that has survived continuous washings.

On the other hand, he probably means existing merchandise...which is pretty pointless since a lot of that stuff just flat out won't fit (and they don't possess the sewing skills to repurpose clothing) and in a true apocalyptic setting that stuff is the first to be looted or set on fire.

 

[Propane Ganda]

probably the best prepper vehicle ever

During a wartime/doomsday situation, what sort of vehicle is going to clean the road of debris so your cargobike/expensive wheelbarrow can ride on the road? Hell, bikes rely on snowplows to clean their bike lanes during the winter for the one cyclist that rides around in the winter.

 

[BobbyBriggs69420]

rose tinted glasses view about what older trucks were like in their mind. Also "more reliable", what are they smoking? It's sort of funny to me fuckcars has the same opinions about trucks as someone's "they don't make 'em like the used to" uncle at Thanksgiving.

When redditors want to be authoritative on a subject they will do this ironic-not-ironic mansplaining, little tidbits they picked up from hollywood or youtube. Folksy voice sort of. Same place the uncle got it. Hoping it's "common knowledge" enough they don't get called out on it.

I read some ev subs and early-adopters of evs (which I guess everyone still is) who can answer a random question about charging or something, they'll go into this mode too sometimes, seem to think this little knowledge makes them some kind of "car guy"

yah you gotta remember to charge to 80, just like you'd remember to gap yer plugs to 80 on yer old ice

 

[maxell4hd]

They loved the covid lockdowns so much they want them again to force people to stop driving:

The thing that they don't seem to realize is that while driving did drop a modest amount, it was transit that was absolutely destroyed by lockdowns. And that didn't just happened in the US, it also happened in Western Europe and cars gained in % share of passenger-km.

 

[Baraka Obama]

early-adopters of evs (which I guess everyone still is)

I don't think we are there anymore, aside from maybe shithole countries in Africa. You can pretty reliably get a Tesla in inventory and it's not hard for other manufacturers.

It's a worse story than the EV fanatics want it to be though, the whole section of the market is running into a lot of issues at scale like you mention reliability -- they are not proving to be more reliable and the problems are often difficult to diagnose/fix -- but also non-Tesla charging infra is just awful, they're trying to change all the plugs on the non-Tesla EVs, there's a huge number of people that can't charge at home, etc etc.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

OP's video:

probably the best prepper vehicle ever​

I wonder how hard they would nut if they knew notorious hack Max Brooks said a bicycle was one of the best transportation modes possible in a zombie apocalypse in The Zombie Survival Guide. An excerpt from the book (which I still have a copy of from 16 or 17 years ago):

In a class by itself, this vehicle offers the best of both worlds. The common bicycle is fast, quiet, muscle-powered, and easy to maintain. Add to this the additional advantage that it is the only vehicle you can pick up and carry if the terrain gets too rough. People using bicycles to escape from infested areas have almost always fared better than those on foot.

He doesn't spend much time talking about the bicycle, but it's pretty praiseful so I'm sure the bugmen would love it.

He also shit talks most motor vehicles and says for motorized transportation a dirtbike is best. SUVs especially get it. He shits on the low fuel economy and (remember, the book was written in 2003 so rollover fearmongering was still very fresh in everyone's minds) their alleged poor safety, in fact he conflates their allegedly poor road safety with zombies being able to break in more easily than other civilian vehicles which makes no sense.

Trucks? He never specifies pickup trucks in fact, he lumps a lot of vehicles into one classification of "truck" which is:

3. The Truck
This class refers to any mid-sized cargo vehicles from vans to delivery trucks to recreational vehicles. With poor gas mileage, limited off-road capability (depending on the model), and massive, ungainly bulk, these vehicles could be considered the worst choice in transportation. In many cases, trucks have become stuck in both urban and wilderness settings, transforming their occupants into canned food.

Not sure what "recreational vehicle" even means. RVs? Weird to have a class for "trucks" and not include, y'know, trucks. And what is "delivery truck?" Does he just mean a cargo van? Does he perhaps mean something like a UPS truck, or a box truck? No idea, he never specifies. The quote above the the entire "Truck" section.

We all know by now that The Zombie Survival Guide is a book written by the most moronic of laymen, speaking confidently on things he knows nothing about. It's a parody survival guide, but it still attempts to portray its information as accurate from the POV of a world where zombies exist, and it's just not. I've known for years how poorly the author understood firearms, and weapons in general, in this book but it wasn't until I saw the "prepper vehicle" post that I remembered Brooks praising the bicycle, and saw even more moronic nonsense from a guy who lives in Hollywood whose daddy's chauffeur drives him everywhere. The best I can say about the vehicle section is it's mercifully short, but he really did pickups dirty.

If you want to read along at home, it's pages 103-109, section "Vehicles."

 

[Susanna]

I'm probably even less knowledgeable about this stuff than Max Brooks, but wouldn't a car face issues pretty quickly? Whether the apocalypse is a zombie horde or disease or whatever, people are going to rush to leave the cities, which will cause jams. Whether from people simply dying at their wheels and blocking everyone else, or accidents leaving wrecks blocking the road, or whatever. When the first car stops, others are going to stop after it very soon, and everyone behind them is going to abandon their vehicle and proceed on foot, blocking the road for probably kilometres. With a bicycle you could get past that stuff easily. In a car not really. A smaller motorcycle sort of makes sense as long as going around the traffic is an option, but if they block the entire road you're probably not going to be able to carry it over cars? I don't think fuel would be a huge issue, you can siphon it from abandoned cars along the way, but eventually that's going to run out too. Petrol does expire, after a winter or two even the petrol stored properly underground at gas stations would be pretty bad, no?

Bicycle you can power with fruits, nuts, berries, or animals you hunt along the way. I'm probably going to be team motorcycle until petrol starts becoming scarce, then I don't really see a better option than bicycle. What do you need for apocalypse survival with a bike, assuming it's something like a virus a tiny percentage are immune to or something like that? I'm thinking a lighter, an axe (to get wood/as a utility tool), one of those tiny camping stoves that runs off of ethanol (or basically anything else flammable), a rifle to hunt/scare off other survivors, some ammo for the rifle, knives, a few days worth of food and water, clothes packed waterproof in case you get wet, and a tiny tent/camping hammock. That doesn't seem like an absurd load to carry on a bike.

 

[S.C.U.D.]

I'm probably even less knowledgeable about this stuff than Max Brooks, but wouldn't a car face issues pretty quickly? Whether the apocalypse is a zombie horde or disease or whatever, people are going to rush to leave the cities, which will cause jams.

That's basically the first thing he brings up when he talks about vehicles, that there will be traffic jams and blockages that hinder the use of a car so offroading may be your only option. He still grossly generalizes things and omits entire classes of vehicles for some reason.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I'm probably even less knowledgeable about this stuff than Max Brooks, but wouldn't a car face issues pretty quickly? Whether the apocalypse is a zombie horde or disease or whatever, people are going to rush to leave the cities, which will cause jams. Whether from people simply dying at their wheels and blocking everyone else, or accidents leaving wrecks blocking the road, or whatever. When the first car stops, others are going to stop after it very soon, and everyone behind them is going to abandon their vehicle and proceed on foot, blocking the road for probably kilometres. With a bicycle you could get past that stuff easily. In a car not really. A smaller motorcycle sort of makes sense as long as going around the traffic is an option, but if they block the entire road you're probably not going to be able to carry it over cars? I don't think fuel would be a huge issue, you can siphon it from abandoned cars along the way, but eventually that's going to run out too. Petrol does expire, after a winter or two even the petrol stored properly underground at gas stations would be pretty bad, no?

Bicycle you can power with fruits, nuts, berries, or animals you hunt along the way. I'm probably going to be team motorcycle until petrol starts becoming scarce, then I don't really see a better option than bicycle. What do you need for apocalypse survival with a bike, assuming it's something like a virus a tiny percentage are immune to or something like that? I'm thinking a lighter, an axe (to get wood/as a utility tool), one of those tiny camping stoves that runs off of ethanol (or basically anything else flammable), a rifle to hunt/scare off other survivors, some ammo for the rifle, knives, a few days worth of food and water, clothes packed waterproof in case you get wet, and a tiny tent/camping hammock. That doesn't seem like an absurd load to carry on a bike.

That's basically the first thing he brings up when he talks about vehicles, that there will be traffic jams and blockages that hinder the use of a car so offroading may be your only option. He still grossly generalizes things and omits entire classes of vehicles for some reason.

The goal is to get yourself as far away from the carnage as possible until the tank runs out, and when the tank does run out, start building your base.

You can obviously only do that with a pickup truck or SUV or something similar.