Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

they're going to hold at the WEF of all places?
It's going to be held a day before the WEF conference:
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Did they invite Russia to the "Peace Talks?"
Why the fuck does Zelensky negotiate peace with Uruguay and not Putin?
While no answer is clear, I believe it is the kind of peace deal talks the West created mid this year, where they talk with everyone but Russia in order to pressure Russia. Here's a similar event with Saudi Arabia in July
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It's going to be held a day before the WEF conference:
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While no answer is clear, I believe it is the kind of peace deal talks the West created mid this year, where they talk with everyone but Russia in order to pressure Russia. Here's a similar event with Saudi Arabia in July
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Anyway, in other news:
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A full month from now too!!! They're going to hold "Peace Talks" a month from now without the party who is winning the war. I see this season of Clown World is playing out nicely.
 
A full month from now too!!! They're going to hold "Peace Talks" a month from now without the party who is winning the war. I see this season of Clown World is playing out nicely.

Ukraine needs to get permission from America first before it can stop sending its men (and women, and children) to die to Russian artillery.

We're the good guys!
 
Why the fuck does Zelensky negotiate peace with Uruguay
Zelensky just read about the War of the Triple Alliance
Bonus: he's so coked up he thinks it happened last year

Luhansk region.​

Assault on Ukrainian positions: all actions are corrected by drone and promptly transmitted via radios to soldiers taking part in the assault. The work of infantry together with heavy equipment can be seen. Link

Russian Rambo trench takeover, Gen. Milley on suicide watch.
 
It’s over Zelensky bros
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This is just another round of the meetings that happened at Copenhaugen, Jedda and Malta this year. These are talks between Ukraine and its backers where they discuss how to implement Ukraine's ten-point plan for how the war should end.

One of the main points made in every past meeting is that no negotiations with Russia can happen until Russia accepts Ukraine's ten points and that there can be no ceasefire without the acceptance of Ukraine's ten points.

This is a publicity stunt for media coverage related to Zelensky's fundraising in the EU and Washington. Its being announced right before he arrives in Washington and while negotiations over Ukraine Aid continue in Washington. Its strictly so Ukraine's supporters in the media and in politics can claim that Ukraine wants peace.

As a reminder, Ukraine's plan:

1) Russia must immediately hand over control of the nuclear power plant in Ukraine to Ukraine.
2) Russia must allow unlimited grain exports from Ukraine immediately.
3) Russia must agree to international control over its oil industry and for the international community to set Russian prices for energy on the international market forever.
4) Russia must return the 20,000 ukrainian children being tortured in Russia and all of the Ukrainian seperatists must be handed over to Ukraine. None of the population of Crimea can flee to Russia.
5) Russia must recognize unconditionally Ukraine's 1991 borders.
6) Russia must withdraw unconditionally from all territory within Ukraine's 1991 borders.
7) Russia must submit to an international tribunal which will punish Russian War Criminals and agree to pay compensation to Ukraine for all costs and damages incurred by Ukraine during the conflict.
8)Russia must pay compensation to Ukraine for environmental damage including dead animals and climate damage which can only perhaps be properly understood in the following decades.
9) Ukraine must be allowed to join the EU and NATO.
10) As part of any ceasefire, Russia must sign an immediate agreement accepting every single one of these terms unconditionally.
 
That doesn't sound like a starting point for negotiation, that sounds like Russia being asked to unconditionally surrender.
Kiev is saying it is "the only comprehensive and fair plan for a just and lasting peace" and will settle for nothing less, further prohibiting negotiations by a decree of their government.
 
No matter what the eventual conclusion looks like the West and its captive media will frame it as Russia's unconditional surrender.
Russia can, and in my opinion will:
- Take everything east of the Dnieper River
- Utterly defang Ukraine's armed forces
- Leave everything West of the Dnieper trashed and ruined
- Roll tanks victoriously through Kiev at least one time

And the West will still try and paint this as a defeat because Russia didn't do it in a week.
 
That doesn't sound like a starting point for negotiation, that sounds like Russia being asked to unconditionally surrender.
There is no scenario where Russia can be allowed to “win” because that means that there is a viable path other than submission to Atlanticism/Globohomo neoliberalism. When that happens, shit will fall apart quickly both at home and abroad.
 
That list isn't serious or wasn't created by a serious person. There's no Lenin/Trotsky laying in the wings ready to take any deal to buy time or the belief in the inevitability of socialism to reverse the loss. I'm ready to accept the inevitability the Zelenskyy will not relevant when an actual peace is negotiated.

Number 4 is the best. Remember in the Chronicles of Narnia when the kids where kidnapped from bombed out London and tortured?
 
Hoholsisters, its over:
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We can fill it up with churkas, how about that?
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Ngl, channelling Hitler's emo suicide baiting phase in 1945 is a bold communications strategy by the Ukranian government.
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Wonder how "Comrades, let us go to our glorious deaths! ☠️" is gonna go down with Johnny Hohol, when the alternative is... just surrender to Russia and then live your life. Losing a war doesn't need to be some huge gay cataclysm of death.
 
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