Look, this current conflict has manufactured an unprecedented level of propaganda and brainrot to a level the world has never seen before, thanks to the beauty of social media. People literally just make things up and word vomit it to their audiences of thousands, sometimes millions, of viewers, and people just believe everything they hear.
When it comes to actual sources here (not tiktoks or tweets from random retards) we have two choices of media and reports, and both have motives for reporting things in their favor. The first choice of reports come from a jihadist terrorist den that hates the West and has no freedom of press. Yes, that includes "on the ground journalists" like Motaz and Hind Khoudary who are known liars and terrorist sympathizers. This side also includes the cucked UN and HRW who get all their death tolls and information from... Hamas. Again, no freedom of press.
The other choice is Western-backed media from a country interested in maintaining its financial relationship with the United States. Reports have been false before from this side too. But at the very least they have freedom of press and people in Israel are allowed to publish reports criticizing their own government.
Both of these options are biased. What it eventually comes down to is that you just have to choose who you want to believe.
That is some pants shittingly terrifying terrain to be having shoot outs in. Some of those alleys are barely wide enough for one person to fit through single file. Big yikes.
Bro please tell me why all these retards are so beyond disturbed and horrified of these photos of pantsless, humiliated terrorists getting strip searched for explosive belts, but were not disturbed and horrified by the video of that poor fucking innocent 22 year old girl's corpse getting manhandled and spit on.
Makes sense - Russia already has an interest in Israel due to the large numbers of Russian expatriates living there, and Russia is the one who's got Iran (Hamas's prime benefactor) on the short leash as their primary military supplier and partner on issues of oil/energy.
This is a wildly optimistic take on Russias influence over Iran. All indications thus far have been that the Ayatollahs hold the leash and not the other way around.
This is a wildly optimistic take on Russias influence over Iran. All indications thus far have been that the Ayatollahs hold the leash and not the other way around.
I think this can be my answer to every time a new thread in A&H showing proponents of commonly disliked policies are against Israel, which shows that the whole idea of Jewish control is just as fallacious as White people controlling everything. Especially when all those policies will continue to be in effect even a decade from now on. The double think is real.
btw where to get sort of more balanced articles and news: the Swiss usually don't care about what goes on in the rest of the world, whatever happens, they get richer, so their serious newspapers tend to have more actual news. My suggestion is the Neue Zuercher Zeitung - www.nzz.ch - but the good articles are in the paid section and it's only in German. But they are usually right on the spot.
After 6 days of truce, the Ground Forces of the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) restarted military operations within Gaza and started shelling the city. As a result, Palestinian armed groups including the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) launched rocket attacks towards Israeli kibbutzim adjacent to the strip and around Ashdod and Tel-Aviv.
Israeli Battle Plan
The IDF intends to split the Gaza Strip into three sectors from an assault from Kisufim, Israel (east of Al-Qarara and southeast of Deit el-Baha):
Gaza Sector (Northern Front): Gaza City of where the IDF partially occupies, Beit Lahiya, Beit Hanoun, and Jabalia.
As a result, I will split the frontline by sector instead of by district as I did in previous updates. I will include the names and geolocations of the districts so you won't get lost.
3 December - Israel relaunched its assault towards the Southern Front
Israeli forces sighted on Salah Ad-Din (Saladin) Road south of Deir Al-Balah. Credit: @EyeGuy
Southern Front (Khan Yunis, Rafah, Al-Qarara, Bani Suheila)
IDF restarted ground advances in the Southern Front from Kisufim, a town in Israel, where Israeli troops had previously advanced at the end of October and the first days of November.
It is to note that Kisufim is southeast of Deir Al-Balah, which is several settlements southwest of Gaza.
Israeli troops advanced on Kissufim Road until they reached the intersection with Salah Ad-Din/Saladin Road. From Saladin Road, they soon headed towards Al-Matahen Street in the south and Abu Houli Street in the north. These latest advances indicates that Israeli Army will divide Gaza strip in three sectors separating Deir al-Balah from Khan Yunis as at the same time that civilians were warned to evacuate the latter city. (1)
IDF reached the Flour Mills intersection (31.380055, 34.336178 ) thus confirming that Israeli troops have cut Saladin Road between Gaza and Khan Yunis, a city southwest of Deir al-Balah. Now Gazan civilians only have al-Rashid Road to head from the north of Gaza towards Rafah, a city adjacent to the border crossing between Egypt and the Gaza Strip. (2)
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4-6 December - Israel penetrates Khan Yunis in the Southern Front
Southern Front (Khan Yunis, Rafah, Al-Qarara, Bani Suheila)
Israeli military advancing towards Khan Yunis, Credit: @EyeGuy
On 4 December, Israeli troops continue advancing north and east of Saladin Road reaching the town of Al-Birka and entering in new areas around Abu Houli Street. (1)
On the day after, the IDF made a large advance along Saladin Road reaching Dar es-Salam Hospital (31.351499, 34.321245) & "Broast Chicken restaurant" (31.347455, 34.316182), thus entering in the city of Khan Yunis and reached the northern part of Bani Suheila, a town adjacently east of Khan Yunis. A cauldron is now formed around the Palestinian garrison in parts of the town of Al-Qarara. (2)
Al-Qarara is northeast of Bani Suheila.
East of Khan Yunis, the IDF launched a new offensive from the Israel-Gaza Strip border over the week and entered some parts of Abasan al-Kabira & Abasan al-Saghira (southeast and east of Bani Suheila respectively) on 5 December. Israeli troops soon reached reached Bani Suheila from the east, occupying the Asfour Gas Station (31.334257, 34.333305). (2)
From Saladin Road, IDF made new advances reaching the center of Bani Suheila on 6 December. (3)
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Northern Front (Gaza City, Beit Lahiya, Beit Hanoun, Jabalia City, Jabalia Refugee Camp)
On 4 December, the IDF restarted the assault towards Jabalia City, and took control over most of Fallujah neighborhood. (1)
In the Eastern portions of Jabalia Refugee Camp, Israeli troops on the day after advanced north from the Housing Projects in Sheikh Za'id and the Sheikh Za'id Mosque (south of Al-Awda Road) and seized many blocks. The Israelis soon crossed General Beit Lahiya Road in the west and are now fighting with Palestinian groups close to Hertani School. (2)
Jabalia Refugee Camp is east of Jabalia City, which is northeast of Gaza City. Sheikh Za'id is a town east of Jabalia Refugee Camp.
In addition, from 3 to 5 December, Israeli troops opened a new axis from the Israeli town of Nahal Oz in order to envelope the Ash Shujaiyeh Ijdeedeh District of Gaza City in the northwest. (3)
By December 6, Israeli forces are trying to reach Al-Awda Hospital (31.533802, 34.506699) in Jabalia Refugee Camp, which is southwest of the Indonesian Hospital and the Sheikh Zai'd Housing Projects.
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7-8 December - IDF reaches the center of Gaza City
Northern Front (Gaza City, Beit Lahiya, Beit Hanoun, Jabalia City, Jabalia Refugee Camp)
Israeli soldiers reach Palestine Square in central Gaza City, Credit: @EyeGuy
On 7 December, the IDF managed to enter Gaza Old City (Central Gaza), capturing the Palestinian Square and the Police Station of Ash Shujaiyeh Ijdeedeh District. (1) On the same day, Israeli forces encircled Hertani School and continue clashing with Palestinian and Hamas fighters around the Indonesia Hospital and Al-Awda Hospital. (2) In addition, the IDF blew up the Great Mosque of Gaza, the oldest mosque in the city, leaving the minaret intact.
Ash Shujaiyeh Ijdeedeh District is adjacently southeast of Gaza Old City.
From the north of Jabalia Refugee Camp, Israeli troops seized many blocks of the Camp, where they finally reached the Police Station on 8 December. (3) Meanwhile, in Gaza City, Israeli troops continue advancing towards the core of Ash Shujaiyeh Ijdeedeh District, reaching Moeen Bseiso School and advancing around the Palestinian Stadium. (4)
It is to note that with the capture of many blocks of Jabalia Refugee Camp, Isreali troops are close the fully encircling the Palestinian garrison in Beit Lahiya.
Israeli troops soon advanced along Yousif Alathma Street and captured the roundabout with Palestine Street; they also reached Al-Jala Road in the south before they withdrew back to the roundabout. (5)
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Southern Front (Khan Yunis, Rafah, Al-Qarara, Bani Suheila)
On 7 and 8 December, Israeli troops significantly advanced along Gamel Abdel Nasser Street and Saladin Road towards the center of Khan Yunis. (1) On 5th Street, Palestinian fighters are putting fierce resistance to push the IDF back to no avail. (2)
*It is to note that SuriyakMaps made an error where the Israelis reached Al-Jala Street in central Khan Yunis when it was actually Al-Jala Road in Gaza City (mentioned previously). SuriyakMaps corrected this the day after. The current frontline in Khan Younis is around Katiba neighbourhood, where Israeli forces are trying to reach the Khan Yunis Refugee Camp. (*)
East of Khan Yunis and Bani Suheila, IDF captured the town of Abasan al-Saghira and are close to meeting with Israeli troops in central Khan Yunis, and are closed to encircling the Palestinian garrison in parts of the town of Al-Qarara. (2)
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9-10 December - Israel tightens its grip around Gaza, Jabalia, and Beit Lahiya
Northern Front (Gaza City, Beit Lahiya, Beit Hanoun, Jabalia City, Jabalia Refugee Camp)
Mass surrenders of Palestinian and Hamas fighters in Jabalia, Credit: @EyeGuy
IDF continued advancing in the last blocks of the town of Beit Lahiya as the Palestinian garrison in the town and in the fields north of it are now getting closed off from Jabalia and Gaza City on 9 December. Meanwhile, Israeli troops are advancing throughout the city blocks of Jabalia Refugee Camp. (1)
Mass surrendering has been recorded by @EyeGuy and @Unsane in this frontline, so I presume there is a collapse of morale for Palestinian groups and Hamas in this front as there is a pattern recently.
Southwards, in southeast Gaza, reports confirm that Israeli forces have entered Ash Shujaiyeh Ijdeedeh District from the southeast in a breakthrough, taking control over Moaz bin Jabal School. (2)
On the day after in Jabalia Refugee Camp (east of Jabalia City and northeast of Gaza City), the IDF surrounded Jabalia Police Station and Jabalia Martyrs Health Center in Jabalia Refugee Camp and are clashing with Palestinian militants around Jabalia Girls Junior High School. (3)
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Southern Front (Khan Yunis, Rafah, Al-Qarara, Bani Suheila)
Clashes between Israeli troops and Palestinian groups are getting closer to the center of Khan Yunis, approximately 900 m from the city's municipality building. (Unable to upload a video on this due to Kiwi Farms thinking my "uploaded file was not a video as expected.")
11 December - Israel fully encircles multiple Hamas and Palestinian positions in Gaza City and Khan Yunis
Northern Front (Gaza City, Beit Lahiya, Beit Hanoun, Jabalia City, Jabalia Refugee Camp)
The IDF have made significant advances in Ash Shujaiyeh Ijdeedeh District in southeast Gaza, which is on the verge of being taken, fully encircling the only few pockets of Palestinian resistance, based in Sabra District (west of Central/Old City Gaza) and Al Turukman Ijdeedeh District (south of Central/Old City Gaza). Israeli troops from Ash Shujaiyeh Ijdeedeh and Zeitoun Districts (southwest of Gaza) are now meeting up with Israeli forces in the Old City of Gaza/Central Gaza. In addition, Israeli forces made new advances in the Northern Remal District in northwest Gaza.
In Jabalia Refugee Camp, Israeli troops extended their control around Al-Awda Street and the town of Beit Lahiya, cutting the latter from the rest of the Gaza Strip, where they advanced from Sheikh Zayed and Faluja Streets.
Southern Front (Khan Yunis, Rafah, Al-Qarara, Bani Suheila)
Israeli forces have fully encircled Palestinian-held Bani Suheila, cutting the town off from Khan Yunis in the west and the Palestinian held positions in Al-Qarara in the northeast, while advancing through Katiba neighbourhood of Khan Yunis City towards the Hamad Housing Project. In addition, from their positions in Al-Qarara, Israeli troops advanced northwest towards the greenhouses on the rural outskirts of the town.
Israeli troops soon launched an assault towards the town of Deir al-Balah from Saladin Road reaching Kfar Darom area (31.403546, 34.355326), while launching another assault from the Israeli-Gaza Strip border north of Kisufim towards Deir al-Balah.
Conclusion
The situation is still going disastrously for Hamas and Palestinian fighters as they are unable to push back Israeli assaults in Gaza City, Jabalia Refugee Camp, and Khan Yunis, showing that they are still underprepared over the ceasefire, proving my prediction of Hamas using the ceasefire to their benefit wrong.
With the opening of a new frontline towards Khan Yunis, Hamas and Palestinian fighters are forced to divert their attention elsewhere, and we see that Palestinians are growing embittered with Hamas' actions. With the mass surrender of Hamas and Palestinian fighters in Jabalia recently, and the the multiple encirclements of Palestinian and Hamas positions, there will probably be less cases of last stands like the Ukrainian Azov Battalion in Mariupol's Azovstal Plant.
We may see the collapse of many encircled Hamas and Palestinian positions and the fall of Beit Lahiya and Jabalia Refugee Camp soon. Crediting most of what I have to SuriyakMaps (Telegram), which has been consistently neutral and reliable, and has been my main source for posting updates in the Russian Invasion of Ukraine thread.
I think this can be my answer to every time a new thread in A&H showing proponents of commonly disliked policies are against Israel, which shows that the whole idea of Jewish control is just as fallacious as White people controlling everything. Especially when all those policies will continue to be in effect even a decade from now on. The double think is real.
I honestly feel like there are way more A&H users who are either pro-Israel or neutral towards Israel in regards to the 2023 Israel-Gaza War (with reservations regarding giving money to Israel and Jewish over-representation) than those who are pro-Hamas/Gaza/Palestine. When you see a diversity of kiwis of many political views, for example a portion of pro-Russian users (many from the Russian Special Operation thread; me included) and a good portion of pro-Ukrainian users (many from the Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion thread) agreeing on their dislike for Hamas and Palestinians, I see this as a shift that there is a disillusionment from what Hamas and the pro-Palestine movement preaches.
7 October was the straw that broke the camel's back when kiwis realize how barbaric Hamas operated in several days in comparison to the Israeli military occupation of the West Bank for decades, and that resulted in many minds changed for users in regards to supporting Palestine over Israel. They still know Israel is very flawed, but now in comparison to Hamas, a diversity of kiwis see Hamas/Palestinians as equally evil as Israel (I think this is the majority of users of the site and not A+H), Israel being a lesser evil, or Israel being righteous in the very end. A&H leaning towards Israel was not in my bingo cards, given the /pol/ culture of A&H that was imported and cultivated.
Even though I put Neither as the vote, I support the destruction of Hamas and the annexation of the Gaza Strip into Israel because most Gazan Palestinians are just crazy and demented people and I want you @wtfNeedSignUp and other fellow Israeli Kiwis and your families to be alive and well. On the other hand, I still have many reservations about the Israeli government that I just can't get over with. So in summary, I'm more of the "Israel is the lesser evil" camp of Neither.
I know A&H is still like 50-100 users out of the Internet composed of billions of people, but I wonder if this sentiment has reached other forums and websites as well?
I see the newest cope is that all (ALL) the captured hamas terrorists are really just normal military aged male civilians hanging out in a literal war zone. (the fact that we only see Israel using their weapons and not fighting hand-to-hand in the streets is further proof of this) Oh and some retards actually claimed that they were all marched off and murdered after the photos too OC... because it's totally normal to hold press events detailing your secret future mass murder victims.
So not only is Israel not killing hamas terrorists, they also can't seem to capture any either.
These people have no shame. Not a single thing they won't try to turn claim.
I actually need to push back here, because this is the sort of nebulous grey area that is actually important to understand. What exactly is the 1st amendment? Specifically the "Speech" clause. Not the actual text. The actual "idea" that the text is trying to get at. In my mind, the idea that the right of the people to freely express their political opinion and publicly petition the government for redress of grievance, and to otherwise publicly speak to persuade political action from their peers cannot be criminalized.
Which brings us to this issue. A Falafel shop. Being protested over a war in Israel. Because its run by Jews. In Philadelphia.
How exactly, is the Falafel shop responsible for what is happening in Gaza? More importantly, how does protesting the Falafel shop in Philadelphia effect the political situation in Israel?
Not one bit. I may hate what New York is exporting to my neck of the woods in the form of progressive politics, but I'm not gonna take my friends down to the local New York Style Pizzeria to protest Eric Adam's latest insanity. For one thing Eric Adam's won't give a shit, and for the other, wtf is the Pizzeria going to do to get what I want? All I am doing is making a mess and ruining uninvolved peoples day.
That is not the exercise of a right. That is the abuse of a right. Its not acceptable. If these protestors have a problem with what Israel is doing, instead of threatening to burn down the Falafel shop, maybe go over to the Israeli consulate instead. That would actually be justifiable use of the right.
This is a problem with western progressive leftist "protest" strategy in general. They treat the right to protest like a morally righteous absolute right to get what they want by any means.. Even if just a totally symbolic effort. (like here as you said.. there is not a single means or thing that could come from this protest that will actual achieve what they want.. or even help to.. it's virtue signaling or even vindictive punishment) They think that the right to protest means the right to do all it takes to get your way. But only if you are on the correct side and have the correct opinion. Otherwise your attempt to protest is dangerous and illegitimate.
They think of protest as a means to an end, not as a simple statement. They expect results so when it doesn't work, it's justification for even more extreme actions.
I don't want to derail this into the right of chimps to chimp out, I'll just say that its been determined that yelling "FIRE!" in a crowded theater is not protected speech, and police that aren't the cucked NYPD have shut down and dispersed protests with less justification.
Not true. It's doing so and causing a riot, that hurts or kills people, that might get you into hot legal water. Despite what the elites and media have been screeching about for the last half decade.. You do in fact have the right to lie, that is.. Doing so is protected speech. What results directlyandexplicitly from that speech, isn't always though. Like making a true threat etc. I could make a lot of ridiculous threats all I want, but if i went out of my way to express them as serious threats, it becomes a lot less clear. But even then the courts have generally held that both an intent and means to actually carry out said threat are needed to convict of a major crime or punish. You always have the right to say almost anything. But depending on the outcome of what results from you saying it, you may have committed a crime in certain specific circumstances.
It's one of those things that seems like a silly technicality but it is really important. It's like the Japanese surrender in WW2. So many people uncritically buy into the fallacy of surrender terms controversy. That since we let Japan keep their emperor after their unconditional surrender, it proves some kind of major oversight or mistake in demanding unconditional surrender in the first place. When there is a whole world of moral, ethical, legal, historical and most importantly logical difference between unconditional and conditional.
Any liberals that weren't RPd about the Muhammadan Death Cult by the mid 2000s were never going to be. They only act like it now because there's a Democrat in the White House and the Muzzies aren't acting like good little DNC niggercattle.
I guarantee you that by summer next year they'll be rallying around to the defense of these same terror and murder-endorsing barbarians because they're in danger from the evil Orange Man getting voted back into office.
Remember that the UN is AT VERY LEAST/BEST simply playing favorites and ignoring this shit. And there has been some reasons to suspect that they or their people are actively helping hamas.
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Hamas fighter finding out that their tunnels will also be their graves. Reminder, they have public stated that their tunnels are only for Hamas members and it is haram for civilians to be in them.
Bro please tell me why all these retards are so beyond disturbed and horrified of these photos of pantsless, humiliated terrorists getting strip searched for explosive belts, but were not disturbed and horrified by the video of that poor fucking innocent 22 year old girl's corpse getting manhandled and spit on.
I think this can be my answer to every time a new thread in A&H showing proponents of commonly disliked policies are against Israel, which shows that the whole idea of Jewish control is just as fallacious as White people controlling everything. Especially when all those policies will continue to be in effect even a decade from now on. The double think is real.
You can believe that Jews are behind a lot of those policies but also still understand that Israel has every right to defend themselves against shit like the October 7th attack.
The IDF says that 13 out of the 105 KIAs in Gaza so far were due to friendly fire. Another 7 were caused by accidental discharges, vehicle accidents, etc.:
Anyone else notice how this was not an issue with Ukraine? Those people packed their shit and got the hell out of Kiev as soon as the bombing started, you didn't have to tell them twice to leave.
Even if I had nowhere else to go, I would immediately run and hope for the best if 500 and 1000 pound bombs start falling around me. Especially if I had children. Especially if Mossad is ringing my phone and warning me to run. And dropping leaflets. And roof knocking.
He added, "I haven't seen anyone in the Gaza Strip who supports Sinwar; no one likes Sinwar. There are those who pray day and night that God frees us from him."
Even if I had nowhere else to go, I would immediately run and hope for the best if 500 and 1000 pound bombs start falling around me. Especially if I had children. Especially if Mossad is ringing my phone and warning me to run. And dropping leaflets. And roof knocking.
Probably the same reason why poor niggers are obese, too many empty carbs. The EBT folk blow all their money on chips and cookies, while Palestinians eat bread (what else could they afford)?
Probably the same reason why poor niggers are obese, too many empty carbs. The EBT folk blow all their money on chips and cookies, while Palestinians eat bread (what else could they afford)?
The IDF retrieved the bodies of two of the hostages, SGM Ziv Dado and Eden Zechariah. The latter was kidnapped from the rave at Re'im where her boyfriend was murdered:
