Are you lost needing femoid advice post here - For the poor bastard's who dare or are just curious

still the fault of men surely, the evil manipulation rays make women horny for domineering men in status positions.


all i said is that what women say they want and what actually gets them horny usually conflicts a lot. Female dating advice for men is to turn into the most desirable "gay best friend " because thats what they idealize in an abstract but then they go fuck , date and marry someone who is completely the opposite.

Someone gets it.
 
Just so you know I'm autistic about no "extra chemicals" to the point I don't take cold or fever medicine in those circumstances, try to exercise the illness away. No pain suppressors too, just wait for headaches and backaches to go away. So there's almost zero chance that I'm taking any drugs for cosmetic reasons but I appreciate the info, it is good to have.
Have you looked into Rosemary oil? It seems like that and maybe a derma roller work decently for some people(but I think it depends on the kind of balding you have). Though if you go down the natural oil path avoid lavender. It basically has estrogen in it.

Quick aside since we're on the hair convo, I've always liked the tomboy pixie hair on women the most and the bob cut second but I know most of them don't like having either cause the first one is gay and the second one is Karen. How do I bring up this fact in a possible relationship without sounding offensive cause I know every woman takes looks dead seriously.
I agree that it's best to find someone who already sports such a hairstyle. But personally I wouldn't mind if my husband asked me to switch my hairstyle and would probably do so(as long as he was tactful about it).

You know, here's a weird thought-experiment question. Would you feel comfortable dating a guy that draws porn?

Like he isn't a whore, he doesn't fuck other women on camera, but he does get commissioned to draw various scenes of sexual exploit
Drawing nudes is alright, especially if it's artful(think renaissance paintings). But drawing something that is suppose to be lewd... to be honest I don't think I could respect a man who would do such a thing. If he did so in the past, that's fine. But not if his job is drawing porn.


Side note: If you only want to bag broads, take advice from men(specifically pick-up artists). However if you would like to have a relationship where you can have children and it lasts for more than 3 years I would recommend a combination of advice from men and women. I would assume most men asking for advice here are in the later camp. But if you want to screw as many whores as possible you won't get very good advice here.
 
thats statistically the type of man most likely to be sexually succesful and more likely to reproduce .

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That what i mean with women and advice. Women can mean well but is more useful to look at what women do than what women say , it often contradicts
Women feeling horny for someone is not manipulating, unless you are literally so retarded as feminists who think all heterosexual sex is rape even when its 100% consensual . Its women who choose who they fuck pretty much always and an average women is 10x more manipulative than the most manipulative man
still the fault of men surely, the evil manipulation rays make women horny for domineering men in status positions.


all i said is that what women say they want and what actually gets them horny usually conflicts a lot. Female dating advice for men is to turn into the most desirable "gay best friend " because thats what they idealize in an abstract but then they go fuck , date and marry someone who is completely the opposite.
no becky, that the self agrandizing douchebag made you horny is not manipulation.



Your words are canceling each other out. The whole point of dark triad traits is manipulation. That's what they do and how they do it.
Those traits definitionially sow discord, upend normal people with normal moral frameworks, and aim to keep their possessor free and clear of any hindrance or accountability - purely in service of their own aims. Obviously to a lesser degree in subclinically disordered people ("dark triad" commonly refers to sub-clinical levels of those traits (and though machiavellianism is not a diagnosis at all, it, like the others can vary from mild to severe in presentation and dominance of a personality) - and your paper doesn't even deal with "true” malignant level NPD/ diagnosed psychopath).

But the point is - people with heavy doses of those tendencies are proud of that power to get people to do what they want without getting caught, being held accountable, or missing a beat, and by causing other people to no longer know up from down. Some are more subtle than others. That's manipulation and
it is both the point and the primary modus.

Don't believe me? Here's what your own reference material says:

High Dark Triad individuals take advantage of people (McHoskey, 2001) and successfully extract and control resources (Campbell et al., 2005, Zeigler-Hill et al., 2014), which can lead to personal gain in brief social interactions and better abilities in resource acquisition.
"extract" "control" "take advantage" "personal gain"


At the clinical level (beyond "dark triad" subclinical levels), folks with those traits have an entirely different experience/ framework of conscience, morality, humanity, honesty, etc.
Meaning: to various but clinically meaningful degrees depending on severity, they do not possess those things and do not value them. They value their own interests; that's it.

That is not normal, and most people are not prepared for it - until they really "get it," they won't even perceive it.

The reality of actual clinical malignant types with other people is beyond predator and prey; it's a complete warping, even inversion, of normal human behavior. The orientation - it is an orientation at that level - is often deemed "malignant" for a reason - like cancer it dominates and corrodes. It is a perversion of humanity with manipulation as its lifeblood and its mo. If not manipulative at all, they wouldn't be these types, not clinical and not subclinical.
Manipulation isn't just slick talk (for clinically diagnosable types); it's a way of life and the primary work method of their psyche. And the lack of or lesser conscience enables ruthless, intentional deception, destruction and manipulation of others in a way that most people would never - never think of, want to do, or execute. It is comically - no, beyond - absurd to say others aren't manipulated by them. Manipulation is who they are. It's what they get up in the morning to do.

...But you really just want to say women are dumb, liars about manipulation, and allergic to accountability, right? Because that's what you keep saying, even though the study you offered doesn't say so, and even though it is factually incorrect - especially and essentially with the very set of people you started with. Lol, embarrassing.

But it's all moot anyway - your source was an assessment showing pictures of people who have "dark triad faces," however they identified that (didn't find the full paper with visuals). Not actions: faces. And the abstract and the first page of the results somehow recited different outcomes, but whatever; iirc in both cases men with "narc faces" got more positive interest than the other two, and psychopath-ish faces were at the bottom of the three. Not sure what the control group was.

I started reading a different paper on the subject, using advertisements with high/med/low behavioral traits shared by different triad types, which suggested attraction for a night but not attraction as a mate to the types, so not really going to the reproduction point this one was trying to make. Differently structured test, tho:

A primary effort of this other experiment was to see if dark triad types also gravitated toward people with those traits. Didn't seem to find much there, but for the rest, they said:

In confirmation of the context-specific value of the Dark Triad traits suggested by evolutionary psychologists (Jonason et al., 2009, 2011), both sexes found advertisements with low levels of the traits more desirable as spouses, and advertisements with high levels of the traits as more desirable one-night stand partners. Long-term partnerships are characterized by high levels of mutual investment (Buss & Schmitt, 1993), essential for bi-parental care (Fisher, 1994), which may require ongoing amicability. Both sexes benefit from this exchange and, therefore, similarly invest in mak- ing a good choice in such a partner. This is no surprise as the adap- tive challenges in bi-parental care are similar for both men and women. Interestingly, however, people felt those high in psychop- athy and Machiavellianism were less attractive than those low in the traits. This may be because there is contamination in judg- ments of physical attractiveness by personality traits.

Let me restate: this^ indicated that though men and women both liked high narcissistic behavioral traits for a one-night stand, they both liked LOW narcissistic traits in a mate.

Exactly what women here have said, exactly what my list that sparked your "research" said, and exactly the opposite of what you say.

Tl; dr: you're wrong, and you didn't even read/comprehend the very paper (why only provide the first page, btw, and no link?) you posted, which doesn't say what you wanted it to say.


But fr, just go get laid or something.
 
The whole point of dark triad traits is manipulation
Oh no
Not the JBP lesson
Fear the Dark Triad Tetrad anon frog people
I haven't met a single intelligent person that was not also highly manipulative.
The only "salt of the Earth" no agenda (wink wink) people are basically grugg types that are unable to wield words correctly.
The pseudo intellectuals like JBP love these naive idiots cause wealth can be extracted from them and they are not asking him difficult, JQ-ish stuff during live events.
Life's easy, communism bad, tradition good, hierarchy desirable, lobster army stronk together.
Don't ask too many questions, just enjoy rule for life and get ready to consoome next rule.
 
I can't give you enough feels for this because it is true. Either that or they are extremely self-destructive.
Also, it's in the interest of the intelligent and manipulative person to deny, strongly, that they engage in that. "Me? I would never. I'm a moral individual. Maybe it is YOU who is paranoid. Did you speak again with your friends, did they feed you their poison again? Did you visit your mom?"
 
Is there actually a significant link between Dark Triad traits and intelligence? My brief search tells me no. It makes sense to me, it doesn't take a genius to understand that "serving myself serves my self". Put any creature with a brain in a situation where it can either take something for itself or share it with its own kind, and all but social ones like rats will take it for themselves. This isn't particularly intelligent, and it's also destructive to what's around you. By not aiding those around you, you also indirectly harm yourself. If anything, short-sighted, impulsive selfishness is a sign of a lack of intelligence. It shows an inability to plan or understand cause and effect beyond what is incredibly basic and immediately satisfying.

I think there's this romanticized idea of what a Dark Triad male is that is very far from the reality. They're destructive and degenerative, to themselves and the world around them. They're not seductively evil mastermind hunks like a vampire villain or whatever, they're unstable and insecure manchildren who can't perceive the consequences of their actions or any beauty in the world they might harm.
 
Is there actually a significant link between Dark Triad traits and intelligence? My brief search tells me no. It makes sense to me, it doesn't take a genius to understand that "serving myself serves my self". Put any creature with a brain in a situation where it can either take something for itself or share it with its own kind, and all but social ones like rats will take it for themselves. This isn't particularly intelligent, and it's also destructive to what's around you. By not aiding those around you, you also indirectly harm yourself. If anything, short-sighted, impulsive selfishness is a sign of a lack of intelligence. It shows an inability to plan or understand cause and effect beyond what is incredibly basic and immediately satisfying.

I think there's this romanticized idea of what a Dark Triad male is that is very far from the reality. They're destructive and degenerative, to themselves and the world around them. They're not seductively evil mastermind hunks like a vampire villain or whatever, they're unstable and insecure manchildren who can't perceive the consequences of their actions or any beauty in the world they might harm.
You misunderstand. A person can be insanely intelligent, but at the same time have no idea how actual human relationships work, be very manipulative, self-destructive.
 
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Is there actually a significant link between Dark Triad traits and intelligence? My brief search tells me no. It makes sense to me, it doesn't take a genius to understand that "serving myself serves my self".
Basically, if you understand that you're manipulated, that person is not very intelligent. Stupider people can attempt to manipulate too, but they lack the subtlety, patience and skills that actually make manipulation successful.
This is not about males, females can be highly manipulative too. Some of my most intense relationships were with chicks that were basically engaged in a war with me, and I with them. Sure it's incredibly exhausting, but it's also good fun, and good practice.
 
I feel this has gone off-topic and we are now arguing a point that I don't care to argue. Yes, intelligent people are more successful at manipulation. Intelligence tends to make almost anything that requires using your brain easier. By this argument, intelligent people also make better cooperators. My stance remains unchanged on the relevant point: Dark Triad traits are defined by manipulation, and that's why they work for the short term game that a male must play if all he cares about is simply reproducing. Women are not choosing a manipulative man, they are making a choice based on being manipulated. This behavior should not be emulated if you intend to foster anything long term.
 
Have you looked into Rosemary oil? It seems like that and maybe a derma roller work decently for some people(but I think it depends on the kind of balding you have). Though if you go down the natural oil path avoid lavender. It basically has estrogen in it.
I'm not balding just yet, I lose like 30 hair strands a day on average and around 60 on hair washes, apparently average person loses 100 a day so I'll probably be fine for now. I do have some oil though, its some horseseed chili thing. Funny thing being hairs turning white already. Pollution and stress I guess.

Side note wheres your pfp from? It feels very familiar. It's from Batman TAS, the Dick Tracy animated show or its a rendition of the Charlton character the Question.
 
women dont have agency on who they decide to fuck even if they are the ones who gatekeeps sex pretty much every time
Its not a conspiracy that with several options at a time you vhoose the same pattern of higly dominating men every time. Keep coping.

They're destructive and degenerative, to themselves and the world around them.
Ohhh a bad boy. He's misundertood i can change him!
 
I'm not balding just yet, I lose like 30 hair strands a day on average and around 60 on hair washes, apparently average person loses 100 a day so I'll probably be fine for now. I do have some oil though, its some horseseed chili thing. Funny thing being hairs turning white already. Pollution and stress I guess.

Side note wheres your pfp from? It feels very familiar. It's from Batman TAS, the Dick Tracy animated show or its a rendition of the Charlton character the Question.
Castor oil plus neem oil. If you want to slow down anything including getting white hair and getting bald. Both of the nourish the scalp though neem oil has strong smell be warned your hair will grow like crazy after
 
I'm not balding just yet, I lose like 30 hair strands a day on average and around 60 on hair washes, apparently average person loses 100 a day so I'll probably be fine for now. I do have some oil though, its some horseseed chili thing. Funny thing being hairs turning white already. Pollution and stress I guess.

Side note wheres your pfp from? It feels very familiar. It's from Batman TAS, the Dick Tracy animated show or its a rendition of the Charlton character the Question.
It’s from Justice League Unlimited.
 
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