What Are The Worst Character Designs You Have Ever Seen?

[Colonel Gaddafi]

As someone with young family members, the sheer amount of childhood indoctrination material kids shows with side mouth is beyond annoying.



It’s so ridiculously distracting to me personally.

Also I’ve actually taken the time to sit down and watch public access kids TV in the US for a day, it’s all so God awful.

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The amount of diversity in the characters is laughable. Every family is mixed race. Every. Single. One. Where they’re not ethnically mixed they’re Gay, for example in Arthur with their gay teacher. The designs are all so fugly. We have…

Molly of Denali, no white characters at all, mostly about Inuit heritage.

Alma’s Way, mixed Puerto Rican girl in the Bronx, plays sports with Sonia Sotomayor. Also has a gay uncle.

Rosie’s Rules, mixed white/Mexican girl Rosie Fuentes (lol) talks about her Mexican heritage.

Jelly, Ben and Pogo, weird show about Filipino kids explaining their culture to a water serpent.

Through the Woods, mixed white/nigger kid asking his black grandma about nature.

Pinkalicious and Peterrific, spoiled girl with ‘fuck my shit up’ hair is friends with a nigger girl with two dads.

Xavier Riddle, mulatto kids talk to Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, and other left wing icons of the past.

This is parody level diversity, even the more innocuous shows like Wild Krats, Odd Squad, and Hero Elementary have incredibly diverse casts. What the fuck.

 

[AMHOLIO]

The amount of diversity in the characters is laughable. Every family is mixed race. Every. Single. One.

Ok, I'll be the odd one out: why is this bad? A little children's show for young kids is about getting kid's attention as well as promoting getting along with others and learning socially. I think watching a family that's all Native American Inuit isn't bad as long as it doesn't bore the kids or teaches them something crazy: it keeps their culture alive and promote interest in it, as well as take a child to a slightly exotic setting with a known structure to them (family of different stripe in different setting, but similar to how their own family and brains work so it's new but not too weird). Mixed race stuff being super popular is likely because shows like this revolve around a single family unit or two, and if you want to hit the goodboy points from suburban moms for being diverse as well as check as many demographics of children as possible, you make it mix race.

Mix race and non-white families being the center isn't bad as long as they run re-runs of classic shows that feature white people too. It's a flavor of the next 5 years type deal, that is how long it takes for trends to move on. The worst crime these shows could commit would be to be really fucking boring and not hold anyone's attention (the number one sin of all television) or teach kids to be assholes. If they commit the win of being borning, then they'll likely cycle out in the next 1-3 years for a new cartoon, their shelf life isn't that long.

Hell, the shows that focus on a group of diverse kids is fine too. The young children's group is the one that needs "that's me!" representation since kids below a certain age are fucking shallow. They want to see themselves because they're babies who don't have as much experience relating to others - thus a diverse cast isn't that bad, you get all children. And some don't even care, they'll like a character because they wear purple or the character is funny. I do realize that saying "children like and need to see themselves" won't apply to shows with a single minority race, but kids eventually learn empathy and to imagine themselves as others around that time too, it might take a while so "I'm there too!" is easier for the youngins who haven't taken that step yet.

The bigger problem with "I want to be in this" is entitled teens and adults who should have grown out of it by now, and shouldn't give two shits if a character is or isn't the same race/age/sex/etc the characters are, as long as the writing is good and makes sense. There are movies staring black, latino, & asian people pre-internet culture wars that don't get hit with the bullying of today because Eddie Murphy is funny. Bruce Lee kicks ass. You weren't guilt tripped for not going to see the FIRST ALL WOMEN DIVERSE X/Y/Z like you are today.

The one I do see more of a problem with is the history one: how do you tell children about history while keeping the politics toned down? I remember Liberty Kids did a decent job of it when I was a kid, portraying both good and bad about the American Revolution (but mostly a net good and a celebration of history). Which events do you highlight, how do you keep your writers from blaming everything on da huwhites like Nazis did the Jews and China does Japan but simplyfy it for children, how do you shed light on the past without pulling out the dang dirty things kids don't need to learn about yet? History shows are harder to do in that regard. I think history shows aimed at older kids and teens are a better bet, or ones that stay and explore a historical setting *acurately*. And by the time you're older, you're probably not going to have your mind blown that medival europe was full of europeans and Persia was full of Persians. And yes, shows that INSIST on "we was kangs" are fucking annoying and awful, please stop trying to rewrite history.


The honest worst part about this that the retarded manchildren and womanchildren really pushing for politics in shows have a job in the industry. We're lucky the corporate overlords keep them from producing "Kill whitey" and "Talyor's 300 genders" in tv show format (they're more expensive to produce and would only gather a niche audience). I think we should fire all of the people addicted to twitter working on these shows (so, 70%) as a general rule of thumb. Because they're mostly annoying.

TL;DR: Children's media being diverse isn't a bad thing as long as they still have whitey featured in some cartoons, don't teach children retarded shit, and AREN'T BORING OR ANNOYINGLY PREACHY. Reading and watching stories helps foster empathy in children, putting them into someone else's shoes and showing them how other children get in trouble and solve similar problems to them. It's not the end of the world if they learn they have to be nice to children with darker or lighter skin than them, or to be courtious to a family of bongland pigs. Boring shit fortunately dies fast in animation, the only shame is that manchildren are employed and "we was present in medieval Poland" type shit.

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

@AMHOLIO
We can agree to disagree on this one. I think representation should be in line with the actual demographics of the area. In a state that’s 50% white you shouldn’t be showing 90% diversity, let alone a state that’s 90% white, as these shows are nationally syndicated. There shouldn’t be any talk of LGBTXYZ+ bollocks in ANY kids show.

“it keeps their culture alive and promote interest in it”
Now do that for a white culture. I would imagine shit would hit the fan if you had a show dedicated to the preservation of say, Italians or the Irish. The problem isn’t that there’s a Native American or Filipino show for kids, it’s that no white group is allowed to have that themselves. If anything it’s going to start giving white kids a complex as to why their mummy and daddy aren’t special like the ones on TV with exotic languages and customs from Mexíco.

“similar to how their own family and brains work”
That’s the thing though, they don’t work in a similar way. As an expat I can genuinely say that different races and nations think very differently in terms of values, and even how their brains form images and processes language. The bell curve is a thing.

“The young children's group is the one that needs "that's me!" representation since kids below a certain age are fucking shallow.”
As a Berber I disagree. I never needed to see another curly headed olive skinned kid to enjoy a show.

“how do you tell children about history while keeping the politics toned down”
You don’t. They’ve visited RBG and made Cleopatra ambiguously brown skinned. As a North African it’s just another example of the erasure of our culture.

“but kids eventually learn empathy and to imagine themselves as others around that time too, it might take a while so "I'm there too!" is easier for the youngins who haven't taken that step yet.”
Then we don’t need diverse programs that feature only a fraction of the population…because that fraction should in theory eventually identify with the majority?

I don’t know. I don’t think you can possibly separate shows like this from the identity politics of their creators.

 

[AMHOLIO]

We can agree to disagree on this one. I think representation should be in line with the actual demographics of the area. In a state that’s 50% white you shouldn’t be showing 90% diversity, let alone a state that’s 90% white, as these shows are nationally syndicated. There shouldn’t be any talk of LGBTXYZ+ bollocks in ANY kids show

Yeah we have to here, we just have different politics. I didn't address the LGBT shenanigans part: I"ve grown up with fine gay relatives so it's normal from my end. What age gay people can be introduced is another story - I think it's fine if they exist, as long as it's the LGB and the same level you'd show with a straight romance or person, but that's likely another difference we have. Beyond that on the race thing, I understand your points but don't agree with them. It sounds lame, but if you want to see change for your country and area, you should try and get involved in groups and yell at heads of entertainment companies. Special interest groups of parents can get surprisingly far, and even things like the time Battlefront II gamers explained how lootboxes worked as gambling to facebook moms (god I wish I could find an archive), which angered the moms who yelled at Disney who bitchslapped EA to fix it. That and watching what your young relatives watch is important. Do your best to introduce them to stuff that you think they should enjoy, you can't influence them all thr time (their friends exist) but you can help shape them towards your thoughts.

You don’t. They’ve visited RBG and made Cleopatra ambiguously brown skinned.

Had a fucking feeling. Thanks guys, really great, total accuracy there. And RBG isn't THAT exciting, they should be picking basic stuff that is neat to learn for kids.

I don’t know. I don’t think you can possibly separate shows like this from the identity politics of their creators.

Probably not. I rather have my history shows as informative documentaries, even kid me would watch interesting ones.

Do you know how to selectively quote? Highlight the sentences you want with your cursor, a popup box should appear with the options "quote/reply". That way you don't have to copypaste & reformat shit.

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

Do you know how to selectively quote?

No, but now I do. Thank you.

And I understand where you’re coming from, it’s a touchy subject on a lot of fronts. Regardless I think we can all agree that kids deserve better than the flash animated crap that passes for quality content. Slapping a front facing visage on a sideways facing profile isn’t a shortcut, it’s just lazy.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Regardless I think we can all agree that kids deserve better than the flash animated crap that passes for quality content. Slapping a front facing visage on a sideways facing profile isn’t a shortcut, it’s just lazy.

It's like 90% of the children's TV shows you showed are like a weird echo of family guy 3/4ths head style:

Family friendly version of course.

Except this one who has tried to cram TOO MUCH BIG EYES AND SMILE AND DETAIL ONTO A SMALL FACE. She looks like she's gonna fucking eat me.


Bring back design to like Curious George or Babar, neither are going to devour my soul like this chick. Feel like her jaw will dislocate to open her mouth extra wide like a snake or deep sea fish.

The enjoyable simplicity of Babar for comparison:

Attempting to add too many details and shapes tend to make the style unpalatable.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

TL;DR: Children's media being diverse isn't a bad thing as long as they still have whitey featured in some cartoons, don't teach children retarded shit, and AREN'T BORING OR ANNOYINGLY PREACHY. Reading and watching stories helps foster empathy in children, putting them into someone else's shoes and showing them how other children get in trouble and solve similar problems to them. It's not the end of the world if they learn they have to be nice to children with darker or lighter skin than them, or to be courtious to a family of bongland pigs. Boring shit fortunately dies fast in animation, the only shame is that manchildren are employed and "we was present in medieval Poland" type shit.

Okay I'll take the plunge. At least according to the examples shown, the issue is that it's pretty obvious excluding of white people, their culture and history from those shows, and it's the kind of things small children will probably catch on to subconsciously and create biases. Maybe it will have no effect, but I can understand why people would rather watch Daily Wire than risk their kid becoming a modern wigger.

Also the argument about diversity is pretty ridiculous. Real diversity is world cultures, this is American "diversity" where it's 50 shades of brown mullato. And god forbid someone suggest there are different kinds of white people with their own heritage

 

[Colonel Gaddafi]

Okay I'll take the plunge. At least according to the examples shown, the issue is that it's pretty obvious excluding of white people, their culture and history from those shows, and it's the kind of things small children will probably catch on to subconsciously and create biases. Maybe it will have no effect, but I can understand why people would rather watch Daily Wire than risk their kid becoming a modern wigger.

Also the argument about diversity is pretty ridiculous. Real diversity is world cultures, this is American "diversity" where it's 50 shades of brown mullato. And god forbid someone suggest there are different kinds of white people with their own heritage

The ‘Rosie’s Rules’ show is the worst offender in my opinion considering that it features a blended family where the older sister is white from the mother’s previous marriage. The show constantly waxes poetic about the younger children’s Mexican culture, showing how the older sister has taken it on and adopted it as her own. Their house is decorated in a Mexican fashion, they speak broken Spanish to each other, they seemingly only eat Latino foods…But we never even get a glimpse into the heritage of the white mother and daughter. Are they English? German? Irish? Are their ancestors more recent immigrants or old stock? The implication is that they don’t matter as opposed to the non-white aspect of the family.

If it were real life, I’d say that the mother has some self hating Cluster B identity issues going on and that’s going to negatively effect the white child down the line. Even in cartoon form it seems cringe.

 

[Seventh Star]

As someone with young family members, the sheer amount of childhood indoctrination material kids shows with side mouth is beyond annoying.
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It’s so ridiculously distracting to me personally.

Also I’ve actually taken the time to sit down and watch public access kids TV in the US for a day, it’s all so God awful.

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The amount of diversity in the characters is laughable. Every family is mixed race. Every. Single. One. Where they’re not ethnically mixed they’re Gay, for example in Arthur with their gay teacher. The designs are all so fugly. We have…

Molly of Denali, no white characters at all, mostly about Inuit heritage.
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Alma’s Way, mixed Puerto Rican girl in the Bronx, plays sports with Sonia Sotomayor. Also has a gay uncle.
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Rosie’s Rules, mixed white/Mexican girl Rosie Fuentes (lol) talks about her Mexican heritage.
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Jelly, Ben and Pogo, weird show about Filipino kids explaining their culture to a water serpent.
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Through the Woods, mixed white/nigger kid asking his black grandma about nature.
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Pinkalicious and Peterrific, spoiled girl with ‘fuck my shit up’ hair is friends with a nigger girl with two dads.
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Xavier Riddle, mulatto kids talk to Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, and other left wing icons of the past.
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This is parody level diversity, even the more innocuous shows like Wild Krats, Odd Squad, and Hero Elementary have incredibly diverse casts. What the fuck.

I just think theyre fucking ugly brown characters anyways.

 

[TVB]

Except this one who has tried to cram TOO MUCH BIG EYES AND SMILE AND DETAIL ONTO A SMALL FACE. She looks like she's gonna fucking eat me.

This is what happens when the industry changes from traditional hand-drawn to flash animation for cost cutting measures. Even most adult animated shows like The Simpsons, Family Guy, Futurama and American Dad have obviously switched to flash and have looked more weird and uncanny in various areas, but at least they aren't moved like puppets on strings unlike most modern edutainment kids cartoons, especially Arthur which is easily the worst offender from 2011 until the show's end.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

Looks good right?



It's a boy.

 

[CEO of Husbandos]

Looks good right?

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It's a boy.

Japs apparently are into drawing an obviously girl with an obviously female body and then come up with ''it's actually a man, teehee!''. It's pretty autistic.

 

[TVB]

Japs apparently are into drawing an obviously girl with an obviously female body and then come up with ''it's actually a man, teehee!''. It's pretty autistic.

And most weebfags will eat up any Jap cartoon, and will consoom it because of its artstyle. It's why these people are also as autistic as this type of shit Japs are throwing out

 

[Shart Attack]

Japs apparently are into drawing an obviously girl with an obviously female body and then come up with ''it's actually a man, teehee!''. It's pretty autistic.

That's from a Chinese game. Not saying you're wrong, just that you should also blame the chinks.

 

[Clorox Cowboy]

Token blacks have existed for decades. You had full black casts in animated series like the Fat Albert Show as far back at the 70s. It is actually good for children to see themselves represented on TV and it isn't the same thing as forced diversity found in adult-centric media. Kids have a harder time empathizing with those that don't look like themselves it's good to give children that chance, not manchildren.

And there is Irish and Italian representation happening. Sesame Street just introduced its first Italian-American Muppet. Cartoon-Saloon's entire library is dedicated to Irish folklore and culture for children. As long as there are shows featuring white protagonists I don't think a show about Indians or mixed-race people is doing any harm. Though talking animal shows are the better option for everyone since it allows messages to more easily transcend race.

I'm more split on LGB content. I don't think there should ever be a gay child character, but there are kids who have same-sex parents and I think there are ways to show a real part of some neighborhoods without actually endorsing or preaching it to kids. Definitely needs to be handled delicately.

 

[Seventh Star]

Token blacks have existed for decades. You had full black casts in animated series like the Fat Albert Show as far back at the 70s. It is actually good for children to see themselves represented on TV and it isn't the same thing as forced diversity found in adult-centric media. Kids have a harder time empathizing with those that don't look like themselves it's good to give children that chance, not manchildren.

And there is Irish and Italian representation happening. Sesame Street just introduced its first Italian-American Muppet. Cartoon-Saloon's entire library is dedicated to Irish folklore and culture for children. As long as there are shows featuring white protagonists I don't think a show about Indians or mixed-race people is doing any harm. Though talking animal shows are the better option for everyone since it allows messages to more easily transcend race.

I'm more split on LGB content. I don't think there should ever be a gay child character, but there are kids who have same-sex parents and I think there are ways to show a real part of some neighborhoods without actually endorsing or preaching it to kids. Definitely needs to be handled delicately.

Fuck that shit. Let kids be kids. You're telling me that kids see them represented as a fucking talking dog or something?

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Kids have a harder time empathizing with those that don't look like themselves it's good to give children that chance, not manchildren.

Dude, I'm an Israeli that grew up on American sitcoms, especially Family Matters. A boy will emphasize with things he can relate to. It doesn't matter if they speak the same language, have the same age or have the same skin colours.

 

[cactus]

Dude, I'm an Israeli that grew up on American sitcoms, especially Family Matters. A boy will emphasize with things he can relate to. It doesn't matter if they speak the same language, have the same age or have the same skin colours.

Not just boys, all kids,

 

[AMHOLIO]

I think we should make a separate thread for debating this since we got some interesting discussion. I'm gonna bring it back on topic, I forgot if this guy was discussed before but man, what a... thing.

 

[Hammr2]

Looks good right?

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It's a boy.

Long post.

In before, I sound like defending the design, it's that I have a feeling like it's first time you seeing it from reaction. Or well, you know in Genshin with Lyney and Freminet, the latter is also an ice element character and timid boy.
For Freminet, he looks really similar to a trap character from an JP artist, Akane Terai. Mind you, that Akane Terai's char is from 2021, Freminet is around this year. It happens right, especially for a product made by Chinese.


At least for anyone here, new to this. Character design is obvious for shotacon.
Really short shorts and with smooth long legs, youthfulness. I do sound like a pervert, don't I? And pretty face or androgynous look maybe add in.
Old manga/anime from Clamp, Clamp school detectives. The blond boy, Nokoru sometimes crossdressing, white feret doesn't like boys or men so.... anime logic.


The controversial Black butler season 2, Alois Trancy. Thigh high socks and boots with heels combo.


Bishounen detective club, written by none other than Isin Nisio, behind Monogatari series.


Touken ranbu, many characters being classified as Tantou, few examples. That first one really looks similar to Misha now, doesn't he. MHY oh dear MHY.

Thread tax, Chinese idle game, Book of Yog, Minerva.

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