Mike Peinovich / Mike Enoch & The Right Stuff (therightstuff.biz) - Lazy Podcasting Clique, Pepe the Frog Fetishists, Doxed by /pol/, Fed Honeypot for Gullible Neo-Nazi Conspiracy Theorists.

[Jurassic park]

Because of all the grifting that has been going on for the last 20 years, it has made me question what White Nationalism has actually done for White people. Questioning the methods of Enoch and company has made me wonder if the whole thing wasn't ill-conceived from the very beginning.

Instead of dressing up guys in Nazi uniforms and riding around on the Hate Bus trying to attract as much negative attention as possible and succeeding, do you ever think that maybe something a little more grass-roots and normal would've been a better ticket? Because the GLR model of roman saluting in the street and attracting negative attention has been going strong and failing for the last 60 years. I think it all needs to be questioned and a totally new approach is needed, especially considering the original iteration never worked.

Just food for thought.

Grifting for donations and infighting is all white nationalism has done since the suicide of the great mustache. There hasn't been any pro-white movements making any success and never will. They will always implode over personality differences needed to be involved in an identity group villanised so much.

TRS was always a grift and the Jewish wife should have given that away. Instead of calling them grifters and making them circle the wagons offer alternatives. The TRS crowd will move on to better podcasts if the option is given. If any are reading now and find something worth listening to, you take another of Sven's paypiggies away and get more listeners for valueable podcasts not trying to inseminate Jews.

 

[Passing Through Town]

Some other things.

Beermin - if it is actually him - claims Tony is innocent of any wrongdoing:





The NJP website removed the support page on the 11th.
Before: https://web.archive.org/web/20231210111425/https://nationaljusticeparty.com/

After: https://web.archive.org/web/20231211113253/https://nationaljusticeparty.com/

 

[AgendaPoster]

NS ideologies are not popular in America. Hell, NS ideologies probably aren't even popular in this thread

The reasons this is true is not as much because of the ideology itself, but because of WW2 and because every.single.group that went in this direction couldn't help itself from adoring Hitler and the Reich, doing Holocaust denial, the whole package of what Americans find toxic.
A somewhat similar situation is with tankies engaging in Stalin and Lenin dick sucking.
I have a lot to say about the subject but not really appropriate for the thread.

The Third Rail addresses the demise of the NJP.

Also Warren and Emily

https://odysee.com/@modernpolitics:0/ModPol-NJP

 

[Passing Through Town]

https://t.me/strikerunfiltered/5091

Edit: Keith weighs in

https://t.me/keith_woods/4868

 

[AgendaPoster]

Edit: Keith weighs in

Christ he's just as petty and resentful as the podcast race.

 

[Passing Through Town]

Christ he's just as petty and resentful as the podcast race.

Yeah, I'm kind of disappointed. Since he's gained popularity he's become a lot more catty.

Edit: They keep posting right after I post here. Joel has now weighed in as well.

https://t.me/joeldavisx/3147

 

[iniuit basketball pro 420]

The NJP website removed the support page on the 11th.
Before: https://web.archive.org/web/20231210111425/https://nationaljusticeparty.com/

After: https://web.archive.org/web/20231211113253/https://nationaljusticeparty.com/

So we've gone from:
>political party
>well actually it's an LLC, so it's more of an advocacy thing actually
>"just mike's side project"
>advocacy llc (that you can't actually support in any material way) <-(you are here)

I would not be surprised if in a few weeks it gets the full mckevvit treatment at this point

 

[Passing Through Town]

So we've gone from:
>political party
>well actually it's an LLC, so it's more of an advocacy thing actually
>"just mike's side project"
>advocacy llc (that you can't actually support in any material way) <-(you are here)

I would not be surprised if in a few weeks it gets the full mckevvit treatment at this point

"The NJP was never viable, and it was full of retards. We never liked the NJP. I always said it was a bad idea!" - Mike in a week or two.

 

[Blamo2000]

Grifting for donations and infighting is all white nationalism has done since the suicide of the great mustache. There hasn't been any pro-white movements making any success and never will. They will always implode over personality differences needed to be involved in an identity group villanised so much.

Spoiler: 80IQ Political Sperging

I came to the conclusion that you have power, means and capital first then formalize your group's interest as a political thing to leverage them better. Normies/Lemmings will just roll with whatever the strong horse is. They will only start picking sides when a suitable challenge to the mainstream was made. Politics just happen to most people, that's the reality of the situation.

I think people drew the wrong conclusion from the events of the past and basically thought politics is somehow magically different than all the domains on Earth. I don't blame them, it's basically the common sentiment. The West basically runs on the illusion of popular will. It's a kind of glue that keeps the institutions etc. always legitimate. Basically people pretending to be CEO of a corporation, without having capital, lines of credit, products, ideas what to do etc. They they get upset that the normies don't just give them their money over a product that doesn't even exist.

The big problem of Europeans in general, the state, national institutions and corporations basically eroded any self determination of the family, local communities etc. You can't tell who lives in your neighborhood, your kids practically belong to the state and the state even has the upper hand in your own marital affairs etc. Ultimately this is a winning strategy if you have it in the hands of people on your side, but if it gets to wrong hands then you just end up with where we are now.

Ultimately, strong families and alliance of strong families create tribes, alliance of tribes make up a nation. Sure it is a more primitive and inefficient form of societal organization, but I literally have no other idea on how to keep resources and capital floating without the state/corporations just sucking it all up. This whole "let's make a movement and tell everybody what to do" only works if you people take you seriously otherwise it will just otherizes you needlessly.

The reasons this is true is not as much because of the ideology itself, but because of WW2 and because every.single.group that went in this direction couldn't help itself from adoring Hitler and the Reich, doing Holocaust denial, the whole package of what Americans find toxic.
A somewhat similar situation is with tankies engaging in Stalin and Lenin dick sucking.
I have a lot to say about the subject but not really appropriate for the thread.

Also Warren and Emily

https://odysee.com/@modernpolitics:0/ModPol-NJP

Most people who get attached to these kind of politics like their reasoning and logic, the roots of TRS are in the facebook libertarian debate me bro circles.. So it makes sense to talk about contradictions and lies of the system. That's a big appeal of the revisionist stuff. I think it's not at all good as a tool of outreach.

Edit: Keith weighs in

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https://t.me/keith_woods/4868

He is not wrong. They overpromised and underdelivered the NJP.

Yeah, I'm kind of disappointed. Since he's gained popularity he's become a lot more catty.

Yeah, he should stay out of drama like this.

 

[iniuit basketball pro 420]

"The NJP was never viable, and it was full of retards. We never liked the NJP. I always said it was a bad idea!" - Mike in a week or two.

That's more likely to be sven/alex, Mike will give some mealy-mouthed "hmm, yeah, I dunno, it wasn't really going anywhere, for personal reasons. Not going into it though, drama would be bad."

 

[5000]

You almost have to admire what a piece of shit Tony Hovater is

 

[Jurassic park]

For some reason it won't let me quote you @Blamo2000
Wasn't it Pat Condell who said white nationalist politics had to begin with the dust bins? The average Joe doesn't have racial pride or any interest in politics. They care about their family and their daily life. You will gain more political power by saying you will improve the garbage pick up than you will saying we want to protect whites. All of these LARPing tards failed at the first hurdle and acted like LA influencers rather than real political players. Turning up to protests full of paid actors does nothing to improve the average Joe's life and risks your guys ending up in prison for life. They could have run the edgy podcast while working in local politics to gain power. Then use stealth laws to help protect their interests from outsides. Mike and Sven want to be popular on Twitch, they don't care about improving anything outside of their own attention. Fist fights with soylent creatures doesn't progress the cause. It's an adrenaline rush and then a warrant for your arrest by a system known to send white nationalists to Bubba's love shack.

 

[SnotNozzle]

What I (and maybe a lot of other people 5+ years ago) wanted was just a racist shock jock show to listen to on a morning commute. Did the bloodsports arguing craze and hype inspire an inflated view of themselve? I could never see Mike or anyone else being anything more than a guy who has a funny podcast to kill time, not some fiery demagogue to inspire a movement.

I haven't listened to TRS in ages so I don't know how they changed, but this reminds me of high school friends trying to start a business together. Of course retarded bullshit by naive people will make it a failure.

 

[Jurassic park]

What I (and maybe a lot of other people 5+ years ago) wanted was just a racist shock jock show to listen to on a morning commute. Did the bloodsports arguing craze and hype inspire an inflated view of themselve? I could never see Mike or anyone else being anything more than a guy who has a funny podcast to kill time, not some fiery demagogue to inspire a movement.

I haven't listened to TRS in ages so I don't know how they changed, but this reminds me of high school friends trying to start a business together. Of course retarded bullshit by naive people will make it a failure.

A lot of the listeners want entertainment that says things they agree with and don't constantly try to shove degenerate garbage at you. It didn't need to be a shock jock style or a review of modern culture. It has to feel like you're not alone in a world increasingly isolating and hostile towards you. A friendly voice saying the right thing could be a millionaire (until paypal cuts them off) just talking to the lonely white men sick of globalism, feminism and foreigners.

 

[The Hardest R]

What I (and maybe a lot of other people 5+ years ago) wanted was just a racist shock jock show to listen to on a morning commute. Did the bloodsports arguing craze and hype inspire an inflated view of themselve? I could never see Mike or anyone else being anything more than a guy who has a funny podcast to kill time, not some fiery demagogue to inspire a movement.

I haven't listened to TRS in ages so I don't know how they changed, but this reminds me of high school friends trying to start a business together. Of course retarded bullshit by naive people will make it a failure.

TRS got worse when they decided to self-ghettoize. Alex became the permanent third spot on TDS, guests were generally shunned unless they followed TRS talking points to a “T,” which basically just limited guests to a couple people like Mark Collett, podcasts began to fold without any replacements, etc. the other truth is that these podcasts were not just a bunch of racists shooting the shit on a Yeti, it became the sole source of income for a number of people there. That changes the dynamic when it’s a small pool of dollars. This change happened from 2017-2018. Before then there was always something worth listening to, each day.

 

[AgendaPoster]

What I (and maybe a lot of other people 5+ years ago) wanted was just a racist shock jock show to listen to on a morning commute. Did the bloodsports arguing craze and hype inspire an inflated view of themselve?

There are thousands of episodes of that and its variants. People get bored, money dries up. You cannot simultaneously claim that the white race is in mortal peril AND that you just wanna joke about it as a WN, it'll completely kill your credentials. Either the affliction is serious and something MUST be done, or it's irrelevant and we're all atomized individuals without racial and ethnic belonging and no allegiances.
Can't have both at the same time.

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Anyway
People seem to be talking a lot as if NJP is done. Besides the removal of donations, did anything else happen?
Warren said something like "political movement will continue, even if it takes another form and it's no longer NJP", so that's kinda telling too.
Will they really disband the party? After just 3-4 people left? Do they really think they can survive as TRS alone? I'm very skeptical that's possible.

 

[Passing Through Town]

After just 3-4 people left?

You're forgetting about the rank and file supporters who are jumping ship. Also their reputation is simply ruined. The NJP just doesn't have any future.

 

[iniuit basketball pro 420]

You're forgetting about the rank and file supporters who are jumping ship. Also their reputation is simply ruined. The NJP just doesn't have any future.

Even if they were in a spot to get new people involved, it's not like it was even a year and a half ago where most negative things floating around about them were speculation and heresay, the most damning stuff to come out from the conte drama and on has been pretty thoroughly archived. Should there be any johnny-come-lately's down the road after they've tried to rehabilitate their image, it only takes one or two people to show up and go "trs? those guys who said/did this? *screenshots and clips of moobment figures sperging out and acting like teenage girls*" to send most people who aren't completely fucking caved-in-head retarded out the door

 

[Steve Harwell's ghost]

There are thousands of episodes of that and its variants. People get bored, money dries up. You cannot simultaneously claim that the white race is in mortal peril AND that you just wanna joke about it as a WN, it'll completely kill your credentials. Either the affliction is serious and something MUST be done, or it's irrelevant and we're all atomized individuals without racial and ethnic belonging and no allegiances.
Can't have both at the same time.

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Anyway
People seem to be talking a lot as if NJP is done. Besides the removal of donations, did anything else happen?
Warren said something like "political movement will continue, even if it takes another form and it's no longer NJP", so that's kinda telling too.
Will they really disband the party? After just 3-4 people left? Do they really think they can survive as TRS alone? I'm very skeptical that's possible.

called it.

 

[5000]

https://t.me/gregory_conte/592

Conte weighs in, calls NJP a cult.