Total Retard War: Lessons of War - Taking the tactics of Honeycomb.io's Field CTO Liz Fong-Jones and making them available to everyone.

Would going through right-wing figureheads that boomers like such as Tucker do any good? Youtubers like the Rebel Media guy? There's definitely a noticeable amount of anti-woke stuff among the older generations as long as you can bring it to their attention.
There are organizations like the National Center for Public Policy Research (nationalcenter.org) that put anti-woke measures on proxy ballots. It usually goes nowhere but the board does have to respond, and I doubt the Cogent board knows or cares about a tranny that works for another company.

I don't think you'll get Tucker onboard, but maybe Andy Ngo or someone like him.
 
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The truth is that the only way you can win this one is by ceaselessly flooding Cogent's customer service lines 24/7, or a similar method of halting a core component of their operation. Couple this with an effective communication/cry for help to someone wealthy with similar interests as you (Elon Musk), and you have a feasible victory on your hands.

Appealing to any court of law during the Biden administration is a joke. The current government will NEVER help you, and this is NOT hyperbole.
I don't think you'll get Tucker onboard
Hard disagree. Tucker is shifting more and more right and he absolutely would support a platform that documents degenerate antics in real time for years and years.
 
Fuck and here I thought (again) there was finally a reprieve in this bullshit.

I think the only sliver of hope besides winning a net neutrality suit and ultimately setting legal precedent (highly unlikely let alone within a reasonable timeframe) is getting an ""influencer"" of sorts support. Someone like a Crowder, Alex Jones or God willing Elon. Without a major voice like that to whip up boomer sentiment I think it's only going to get worse. When you have tier 1's doing this kind of shit there's only so long.

In other words, Trump needs to say GamerGate Kiwifarms. What's happening to the Farms is unprecedented, I work in SRE and this is sickening. I'm not sure how much people realize how close the .net domain is to being lost. This shit is akin to racketeering.
 
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One thing I really would like some clarity on is WHY these shit companies are playing ball. In my business if i get a whiny email like what dong-gone sends, i ignore it. The second time, i shitlist the email address and it never hits my inbox. Why would these companies give a shit about what some deranges troons are crying about?
 
How do you receive an email from someone that includes the line “the content in question comprises over 14,000 individual comments […] spreading false smears that I am allegedly a rapist, paedophile, and so forth” and take the side of the person with the 10k+ allegations?
You'd be surprised at what a \@Google domain email would compel in tech.
Anyone down stream from these companies who contract for millions can't jeopardize these relationships in any capacity.
 
Tucker is shifting more and more right and he absolutely would support a platform that documents degenerate antics in real time for years and years.
In private, I’m sure Tucker would be rooting for Josh and the forum super hard, but there is no way he would stick his neck out and risk damaging his blossoming solo career and current influence to been seen defending or interviewing Null and the forum.

Every journo, breadtuber, and redditor would make mash ups of some of the stuff Null has said over the years that normies would recoil at hearing and imply Tucker also believes these things since he is defending him.
 
The Kiwifarms/Null/a hired PR professional should draft a response letter the template Elliot "Liz" Fong-Jones sends to everyone. This letter should be something that:
  1. Points readers to distinguished sites containing articles that emphasize Elliot "Liz" Fong-Jones has credibly been accused of rape and has minimized this incident as a "consent accident".
  2. Emphasizes why said predators would prefer that their information and history of past heinous crimes not be easily accessible by the general populace.
  3. Makes an appeal to readers' want to preserve history and honest discourse akin to how the Internet Archive preserves information for the public's general welfare.
  4. Details the history of efforts Josh Moon has undertaken to fight these racketeering attempts.
  5. Provides a simple solution that readers can undertake to ensure that websites that document criminal and otherwise noteworthy activity remain online; solutions have to require minimal effort on the part of the reader since having them do very little is the only way you can get them to ever act.
It should be concise enough where it will catch readers' attention while containing sufficient refutations to effectively make the Kiwifarms' case for existence.

Edit: Assorted grammar mistakes.
 
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also @Null, there's probably never before been an easier time to get an elon retweet or reply and that'd be invaluable.
you'd probably need to be very careful in what you tweet and chat to the right ppl beforehand to make sure he sees it but i'd bet it's a real possibility.
i'd have no idea who to reach out to though, maybe you or someone else here does?
And of anyone we could contact out there, he would understand the how and why of how fucked, Internet breaking, and unprecedented Cogent censorship is.
 
You'd be surprised at what a \@Google domain email would compel in tech.
Anyone down stream from these companies who contract for millions can't jeopardize these relationships in any capacity.
Yes, but low and mid level employees do not get to throw around "do you know who I work for?" unless they are literally calling on behalf of someone very high up. I'm sure they do it anyway, but if word gets back to their manager that they're threatening business relationships on behalf of their employer, they'll find out what happens when you fuck around.

All you need is one farmer working at Google/Amazon/whatever, it takes five seconds to find out an employee's management chain and all their addresses.
 
The Kiwifarms/Null/a hired PR professional should draft a response letter the template Elliot "Liz" Fong-Jones sends to everyone. This letter should be something that:
  1. Points readers to distinguished sites containing articles that emphasize Elliot "Liz" Fong-Jones has credibly been accused of rape and has minimized this incident as a "consent accident".
  2. Emphasizes why said predators would prefer that their information and history of past heinous crimes not be easily accessible by the general populace.
  3. Makes an appeal to readers' want to preserve history and honest discourse akin to how the Internet Archive preserves information for the public's general welfare.
  4. Details the history of efforts Josh Moon has undertaken to fight these racketeering attempts.
  5. Provides a simple solution that readers can undertake to ensure that websites that document criminal and otherwise noteworthy activity remain online; solutions have to require minimal.
It should be concise enough where it will catch readers' attention while containing sufficient refutations to effectively make the Kiwifarms' case for existence.
To sound like a journo (Allah forgive me) this should be at roughly a 3rd-4th grade reading level and roughly a 3-5 minute read or a single sheet of copy paper. It sounds stupid, but it's literally how the news companies stay in buisness. If you want to speak to the normies, you gotta lower your powerlevel a bit.
 
It's hard to win the image game when you already lost as hard as Null did where any form of slander by the media is free game. Also for PR you want to have social media influencers bat for the Farms (and you will need them or else it is just Null screaming into the void), you will need to change the rules for them. We had plenty of people stick up for the Farms until it is there dirty laundry that gets aired, then they do a 180 and go against us (Dick, Riketa, and Ralph to name a few). So if you want to have positive voices, Null will need to censor and influence threads to keep the talking heads happy, which will alienate users.
Nah, not for traditional crisis PR, for that you need the press. It's not so much about winning the war for KF the entity, it's about winning the war against people who think they have rights to be protected even though they've chosen to make themselves public figures like celebrities and politicians. KF does commentary, not bullying. KF isn't launching campaigns against randos, and the targets aren't vulnerable school kids, or special snowflakes. They put themselves out there for commentary, for better or worse. But all the complainers have manipulated the press and public to think they are randomly being targeted for harassment.

I know Null has lost hard af. But it's time to recontextualize KF. Nobody batted an eye at old-school forums like Television Without Pity (eventually owned by bravo or some network) in the aughts when commenters harshly came for tv and reality stars. Nobody cares about the trash comments on articles in entertainment sections of the daily fail or entertainment rags. Because being insulted is part of why celebs get paid the big bucks. Well, social media peeps are the new celebs, and KF is just doing the age old service of providing people with a place to rant about and ridicule celebs 2.0. The sooner the media and companies start realizing this, the sooner social media influencers/creators (no matter how niche or speddy) will no longer garner sympathy for people hating them for what they freely choose to put out there about themselves.

Null has lost battle after battle, it's true. I'm sure he's tired as hell, I'd be. But as long as the chips are down, why not try a new approach? The worst it could do is yield a lack of results and KW would remain in the same place.

And, if you'll indulge my reeing for a sec, that great fat cow Alice from GOMI has managed to keep her rickety, malware laden "hate forum" up for over a decade. It's like KF, only less edgy, more petty and mostly a snark site for hating on mommy bloggers and other female social media types. People call it a snark site, and any articles about her have been like "teehee, this woman runs a snark site about other women, isn't it so mean and snarky that it's cute" Well, wtf is KF if not a snark site? It's not a hate site. It's snark. Go to reeeddit, there's duggar snark, and fundie snark, blog snark. Somehow the exact sentiments posted here are fine in other places if they're called snark. See what I mean? A paradigm shift is needed here.
 
To sound like a journo (Allah forgive me) this should be at roughly a 3rd-4th grade reading level and roughly a 3-5 minute read or a single sheet of copy paper. It sounds stupid, but it's literally how the news companies stay in buisness. If you want to speak to the normies, you gotta lower your powerlevel a bit.
I somewhat agree. It has to be very easy on the eyes. It can absolutely contain links to other sources of information that are thousands of pages long, but it should never ever link to those sources of information with the expectation that the reader will ever spend more than one minute skimming through it.
 
Taiwan? never heard of it I only know China.
Can't blame you, Gansu is China too.
Known as a province.
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Can a restraining order be slapped on Elliot?

Can the Board be contacted about why a company is taking the word of rapist?
No, he can just get someone else to do it.
Sure, he'll lose a lot of power by being denied to use his company "CTO" whatever email.

Here's what I think he'll do:
He's probably more than willing to get someone on the payroll, or as an unofficial employee of his rubbish honeycomb.io company and harass women through them, as a proxy.
The restraining order won't do shit, we'll have to prove he's doing this through a proxy which won't happen unless their tranny discord leaks.
Actually, as Discord is involved, I'll give it a year before infighting happens and the entire logs dumped.

Anyway, an RO will not work. He's not Ethan Ralph who was stupid enough to brag about harassment through proxies.
 
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I somewhat agree. It has to be very easy on the eyes. It can absolutely contain links to other sources of information that are thousands of pages long, but it should never ever link to those sources of information with the expectation that the reader will ever spend more than one minute skimming through it.
Honestly links are fine. People read Wikipedia all the time and they have links and sources. What we seek to craft is a HOOK. The reason a regular 25-40 something should give a fuck. It's not even that they're dumb, they're busy with work. Make it quick and to the point. If they're intrigued, let them know how to find out more
 
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