Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...

Favorite GTA?

  • Grand Theft Auto

    Votes: 61 2.4%
  • Grand Theft Auto: London 1969

    Votes: 54 2.1%
  • Grand Theft Auto 2

    Votes: 106 4.1%
  • Grand Theft Auto III

    Votes: 203 7.9%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

    Votes: 734 28.7%
  • Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

    Votes: 1,029 40.2%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Advanced

    Votes: 12 0.5%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories

    Votes: 74 2.9%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories

    Votes: 73 2.9%
  • Grand Theft Auto IV

    Votes: 653 25.5%
  • Episodes From Liberty City (The Lost & Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony)

    Votes: 198 7.7%
  • Grand Theft Auto V

    Votes: 371 14.5%
  • Grand Theft Auto: Online

    Votes: 91 3.6%
  • My Mother's My Sister!

    Votes: 305 11.9%

  • Total voters
    2,558
When I learned that Donald was a cannibal, I thought: "Is he eating Casa? How did he GET that from a shop?" Most likely it's a reused asset FROM that mission. No lie, I had no idea what a morgue party was. I thought he was just dancing or partying with corpses.
I meant to say Casa getting killed was a separate example I didn't mean to say he was also the torso that Donald Love was eating. I do think Donald likes partying with corpses, that's why he was practicing ballroom dance when Toni showed up.

When I played GTAIII originally, I assume the implication was he was fucking the corpses.
In GTA LCS when Toni meets Donald Love at the mansion in Shoreside Vale, he is struggling to meditate and he says "if I had something cold to cuddle up to it'd be so easy". Whether or not its a sexual thing, Donald Love is a necrophile.

Were they gunned down beforehand? It's been like twenty years but I seem to remember the victims wondering what the noise was before being fed into the machinery.
Some of the victims walk on the conveyor belt and the mobsters start shooting them once they realize what is going on. On PC they're pedestrians taken in a bus and PS1 they were the Hare Krishna gang taken in their gang bus.

GTA V Trevor IS a cannibal.
It's implied that he is a cannibal but I think its just Trevor trying to make everyone feel uncomfortable around him using dark humor, Trevor knows he is weird and plays into that persona.
 
Just noticed that in GTA 5 they do the same "I may be a mass murdering, meth smoking, shit eating insane person but I'M NO HECKIN RACIST!!" with Trevor like they do with Arthur Morgan in Red dead 2. If anyone on planet earth would be a racist a mentally unstable trailer park meth head would be.
 
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Just noticed that in GTA 4 they do the same "I may be a mass murdering, meth smoking, shit eating insane person but I'M NO HECKIN RACIST!!" with Trevor like they do with Arthur Morgan in Red dead 2. If anyone on planet earth would be a racist a mentally unstable trailer park meth head would be.
It's been a while, but didn't they make it a point in The Lost and Damned that The Lost weren't *actually* racist (even though they were kind of depicted that way in GTA IV originally) and only The Angels of Death were racist?
 
Just noticed that in GTA 4 they do the same "I may be a mass murdering, meth smoking, shit eating insane person but I'M NO HECKIN RACIST!!" with Trevor like they do with Arthur Morgan in Red dead 2. If anyone on planet earth would be a racist a mentally unstable trailer park meth head would be.
God the Minuteman missions were so fucking cringe. I always point to that when people say "Rockstar makes fun of both sides!" The only reason to do them is to get the stun gun. No other reason. RDR2 was just as pathetic, and the fact that real people out there think the Wild West was as tolerant as Dutch's gang, or the fact that Saint Denis was a fake New Orleans, which was beyond segregated and had sundown laws, but is in-game a rainbow hugs and kisses melting pot, is proof that modern video games are as useless at teaching history as Hollyweird is.

And don't get me started on that obnoxious part where the old Mexican goes into a faggy speech about how his families been in Los Santos for hundreds of years and Trevor, the most morally bankrupt, violent, drug-addled subhuman you can play in the game suddenly gets a change of heart and kills the heckin' evil waycists. It was so pathetic and obvious that even my kid cousins called it out as lame and gay.
 
It's been a while, but didn't they make it a point in The Lost and Damned that The Lost weren't *actually* racist (even though they were kind of depicted that way in GTA IV originally) and only The Angels of Death were racist?
The two people who are explicitly racist (they mock Johnny for being Jewish) in the lost and the damned gang are Billy who is the incompetent leader who just got out of prison and is completely ruining the gang because of his own greed and Brian who is a low IQ sniffling ass kisser of Billy. You can kill both of them. Jim the one brown guy in the gang is super loyal and dedicated to the end. Very subtle isn't it?
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Just noticed that in GTA 5 they do the same "I may be a mass murdering, meth smoking, shit eating insane person but I'M NO HECKIN RACIST!!" with Trevor like they do with Arthur Morgan in Red dead 2. If anyone on planet earth would be a racist a mentally unstable trailer park meth head would be.
Fun fact, do you know this line from GTA V?
Originally, Trevor wasn't supposed to say "I could still take you on, sugartits." He was supposed to say "I could still take you on, my nigger."
I absolutely detest the way Rockstar wrote Trevor. They try SO SO FUCKING HARD to sell you on that homosexual White nigger, trying so hard to convince you that insufferable fag has any sort of positive traits. Every single goddamn time Michael and Trevor argue, Trevor always has some gay, poorly written line along the points of "Yeah I might be a basket case, but you were a heccin bad friend! I'm a good friend! I am so loyal and that makes me a saint! If you call me out on that, well fuck you! Because I'm a loyal and great friend!" It might as well be the Houser brothers coming through your monitor, kicking you in the balls and saying "HEY ASSHOLE! DID YOU KNOW THAT... MICHAEL IS LE BADDDDD... BECAUSE HE'S A BAD FRIEND.... AND TREVOR IS LE GOOOD... BECAUSE HE'S A GOOD FRIEND!!!!" because it has the subtlety of that. And all of this is broken anyway because five seconds later Wade or Ron will walk in and Trevor will kick him in the head. I can't believe I'm supposed to think that Trevor is such a great and loyal buddy to those close to him when he's practically enslaved Ron and Wade. There are convos where Trevor almost flat out says he murdered Wade's friends in order to make Wade be his errand boy, which is even more fucked up because Wade is likely retarded, and not as in an insult, I am pretty sure he is intellectually disabled. He does a similar thing to Ron as well, he destroys Ron's happy marriage of 12 years and brainwashes him into a paranoid conspiracy theorist nutcase servant.
Other than this, what the fuck does Trevor have? His complete rejection of hygiene? His temper tantrums whenever something doesn't go his way or hell, whenever he fucking feels like it? (see the ending of the subtle approach for Union Depository heist) His retarded, impulsive behavior like when he decided to steal a nuke? Am I supposed to find any of that funny? Because I sure as hell don't, especially when this game is supposed to take place in the same universe as fucking GTA IV. And DO NOT give me the bullshit of "Oh, Trevor is meant to be a disgusting faggot, he's meant to represent the type of player who just goes around and shoots people!". There are so many similar games where you play as psychotic killers that aren't as poorly written. For all the talk Trevor says about loyalty, characters like Tommy Vercetti and even the boss from the first two Saints Row games actually showed that.
I wish they just made ending A canon through GTA Online instead of C. Instead of Ron saying Trevor "moved away" he should have just straight up said Trevor died. The only thing I enjoyed Trevor do was slowly burn in agony, screaming and crying while Michael and Franklin watched. If they somehow get Trevor to return in GTA VI (not likely given that Steven Ogg is as much of a retarded faggot as Trevor is), I hope he's killed on screen. I don't give a shit how either. I don't care if Lucia curbstomps him while screaming about the patriarchy or racism, in fact that would be better, such a pathetic, gay character deserves a similarly pathetic, gay death.
 
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It's been a while, but didn't they make it a point in The Lost and Damned that The Lost weren't *actually* racist (even though they were kind of depicted that way in GTA IV originally) and only The Angels of Death were racist?
Yes. The AoD website loosely alludes to their gang being racist through strict membership restrictions; although, that's more of a parody of the Hells Angels' allegations of racial prejudice. I think it's a stereotype that biker gangs are racist because they JUST have White members. That's another topic for another day.

Remember that Clay Simon, the Black Lost member, does not have an LCPD entry in the police database despite being in a gang. Methinks that Clay was added last minute to expand The Lost's camaraderie with Johnny and the DLC or to subvert the belief that motorcycle culture is exclusive to White people.
 
Just noticed that in GTA 5 they do the same "I may be a mass murdering, meth smoking, shit eating insane person but I'M NO HECKIN RACIST!!" with Trevor like they do with Arthur Morgan in Red dead 2. If anyone on planet earth would be a racist a mentally unstable trailer park meth head would be.
Nah, Trevor is Canadian. He's only racist to natives.
 
God the Minuteman missions were so fucking cringe. I always point to that when people say "Rockstar makes fun of both sides!" The only reason to do them is to get the stun gun. No other reason. RDR2 was just as pathetic, and the fact that real people out there think the Wild West was as tolerant as Dutch's gang, or the fact that Saint Denis was a fake New Orleans, which was beyond segregated and had sundown laws, but is in-game a rainbow hugs and kisses melting pot, is proof that modern video games are as useless at teaching history as Hollyweird is.

And don't get me started on that obnoxious part where the old Mexican goes into a faggy speech about how his families been in Los Santos for hundreds of years and Trevor, the most morally bankrupt, violent, drug-addled subhuman you can play in the game suddenly gets a change of heart and kills the heckin' evil waycists. It was so pathetic and obvious that even my kid cousins called it out as lame and gay.
In the Leftists' moral world disliking protected classes is worse than murder. I am not exaggerating at all.
 
Remember that Clay Simon, the Black Lost member, does not have an LCPD entry in the police database despite being in a gang. Methinks that Clay was added last minute to expand The Lost's camaraderie with Johnny and the DLC or to subvert the belief that motorcycle culture is exclusive to White people.
I don't remember where I saw it, possibly the "Terry Thorpe" channel on Youtube (but good luck finding it with how much shit he uploads), but there was a pretty convincing case for Clay being a last minute addition to TLAD. IIRC, he doesn't have any dialogue or is ever referenced in actual cutscenes or something.
 
I wish they just made ending A canon through GTA Online instead of C. Instead of Ron saying Trevor "moved away" he should have just straight up said Trevor died. The only thing I enjoyed Trevor do was slowly burn in agony, screaming and crying while Michael and Franklin watched. If they somehow get Trevor to return in GTA VI (not likely given that Steven Ogg is as much of a retarded faggot as Trevor is), I hope he's killed on screen. I don't give a shit how either. I don't care if Lucia curbstomps him while screaming about the patriarchy or racism, in fact that would be better, such a pathetic, gay character deserves a similarly pathetic, gay death.
Trevor Phillips as a GTA protagonist has aged poorly over time. He's supposed to be a meta representation of the causal GTA player, but comes off as unhinged ONLY when the story demands it. He actually reminds me of Vaas from Far Cry 3; all flair with little substance to support himself as a character.

Ending A would've been considered a "normal ending" by GTA standards because Trevor IS a liability that nobody can afford because of his general insanity and lack of foreseeable thought. Of course, there's a chance that Trevor himself is overcompensating due to mental illness or peer pressure as a criminal. Remember when SWEGTA tried to hail Trevor as a progressive GTA anti-hero? It's not too far off given recent events. Take that what you will.
 
Regarding the historical accuracy of racial views in RDR2 I am a bit more forgiving then with the GTA games. If you were to portray accurate turn of the 19th century race relations in a RDR game it would never make it past the writing phase. Even if miraculously all the writers were okay with it higher ups in the company and the investor's would make sure it never was made. Portraying likable people as racially prejudice is not something you can do in the 21st century. Racists have to be irredeemable horrific people like Micah.
 
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Ending A would've been considered a "normal ending" by GTA standards because Trevor IS a liability that nobody can afford because of his general insanity and lack of foreseeable thought.
I've said it before, but GTA V works better thematically with the ending where you kill Michael, but in truth would make the *most* sense if you had both Ending A and B happen.

I'm also positive it was confirmed that Dan Houser originally wrote Trevor as an antagonist and later reworked the script to make him a playable protagonist. To me he seems like he was originally meant to be like Waingro from Heat.
 
Trevor Phillips as a GTA protagonist has aged poorly over time. He's supposed to be a meta representation of the causal GTA player, but comes off as unhinged ONLY when the story demands it. He actually reminds me of Vaas from Far Cry 3; all flair with little substance to support himself as a character.

Ending A would've been considered a "normal ending" by GTA standards because Trevor IS a liability that nobody can afford because of his general insanity and lack of foreseeable thought. Of course, there's a chance that Trevor himself is overcompensating due to mental illness or peer pressure as a criminal. Remember when SWEGTA tried to hail Trevor as a progressive GTA anti-hero? It's not too far off given recent events. Take that what you will.

Michael was 100% in the right to try to get Trevor killed. Trevor is the worst kind of "friend" relying on abuse and threats of violence to get his way. I have no doubt that if he had access to Michael's kids he would've absolutely been threatening them to get Michael to do what he wanted. Hell, Michael should have shot Trevor as soon as he had the chance in North Yankton and I'm certain the only reason he didn't was because the story demanded he not do so.

I also think that assuming GTA 6 goes with two playable protagonists, neither of them is going to die because I don't think Rockstar has the balls to do that without the player being in control of it, and certainly they don't have the balls to make either of them dying the canon ending if they allow you to choose to kill one of them.

Edit: Speaking of shitty friends, going to save Lamar's ass when he got taken to that sawmill kinda ticked me off. Lamar's been nothing but trouble and following his dumb ass has only gotten Franklin into shitty situations. But it is in character for Franklin at least because Franklin is kinda a doormat.
 
God the Minuteman missions were so fucking cringe. I always point to that when people say "Rockstar makes fun of both sides!" The only reason to do them is to get the stun gun. No other reason. RDR2 was just as pathetic, and the fact that real people out there think the Wild West was as tolerant as Dutch's gang, or the fact that Saint Denis was a fake New Orleans, which was beyond segregated and had sundown laws, but is in-game a rainbow hugs and kisses melting pot, is proof that modern video games are as useless at teaching history as Hollyweird is.

And don't get me started on that obnoxious part where the old Mexican goes into a faggy speech about how his families been in Los Santos for hundreds of years and Trevor, the most morally bankrupt, violent, drug-addled subhuman you can play in the game suddenly gets a change of heart and kills the heckin' evil waycists. It was so pathetic and obvious that even my kid cousins called it out as lame and gay.
Recently decided to hop into my GTA5 save about halfway through the game and that's the first mission I ran into. It's so fucking bad and on the nose with its politics.
Also when you shoot the Mexican the mission automatically fails. Naturally.
 
Michael was 100% in the right to try to get Trevor killed. Trevor is the worst kind of "friend" relying on abuse and threats of violence to get his way. I have no doubt that if he had access to Michael's kids he would've absolutely been threatening them to get Michael to do what he wanted. Hell, Michael should have shot Trevor as soon as he had the chance in North Yankton and I'm certain the only reason he didn't was because the story demanded he not do so.

I also think that assuming GTA 6 goes with two playable protagonists, neither of them is going to die because I don't think Rockstar has the balls to do that without the player being in control of it, and certainly they don't have the balls to make either of them dying the canon ending if they allow you to choose to kill one of them.

Edit: Speaking of shitty friends, going to save Lamar's ass when he got taken to that sawmill kinda ticked me off. Lamar's been nothing but trouble and following his dumb ass has only gotten Franklin into shitty situations. But it is in character for Franklin at least because Franklin is kinda a doormat.
Only wrong part in this statment is calling Franklin a doormat, nigga is the whole houses carpet.
 
Edit: Speaking of shitty friends, going to save Lamar's ass when he got taken to that sawmill kinda ticked me off. Lamar's been nothing but trouble and following his dumb ass has only gotten Franklin into shitty situations. But it is in character for Franklin at least because Franklin is kinda a doormat.
Dont forget how as soon as they get back home, Lamar asks Franklin for a handout, complains that it's not enough, and then gives him that crab bucket shit about "forgetting where you come from"
 
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