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Total Retard War: Lessons of War - Taking the tactics of Honeycomb.io's Field CTO Liz Fong-Jones and making them available to everyone.
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This really gets at the heart of it.
Institutions have rules, and institutions can be made to follow their own rules. They can be made to follow their own rules via using formal processes. In Rules for Radicals, when Saul Alinsky talks about making an institution follow its own rules, he's talking about triggering its official procedures, not so much shrieking impotently about its hypocrisy.
The right really doesn't have much of an ingrained habit of making formal complaints, public shaming, filing lawsuits, etc, because we regard those as sissy bitch tactics...but they are extremely effective. Stop worrying about trying to improve KF's reputation and focus on what sort of rules places like CloudFlare, Cogent, and other bad actors have. Don't make this about the Farms. Make this about the people who run the Internet.
For one thing, a number of them have now established that they are content moderators. So make them moderate content. According to Josh, nearly all internet traffic passes through about five of them. Okay, so make them moderate the entire fucking internet. Make them choke on all the dodgy drug trade sites, revenge porn sites, DDOS sites, etc. You can file complaints faster than they can process them. If KF belongs on Tor, then so do literally millions of websites, each of which must be examined and reviewed by hand, one by one. Hell, CloudFlare's CEO is personally involved in reviewing websites that "pose an immediate danger to human life" or whatever the fuck, so hold them to that.
Large corporations are also extremely sensitive about their public reputation. They don't really care about KF specifically. They care about being seen as socially progressive and as not enabling Le Bad Things. If you can find just one or two sympathetic journalists at right-leaning outlets with a wide reach (Breitbart? Federalist? Daily Wire?) who are willing to write frequent smear pieces, you can bring a company like Cogent to heel with daily articles about the filth and criminality they enable. The last thing Cogent's Board of Directors wants is for Cogent's brand to be synonymous with, "the favorite platform of cybercrime."
In other words, don't make this about the Farms. Make this about them.
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I think going for all options would be the most successful. You are right that we need to make them follow their own rules. But that is only one part of this artillery barrage if we want to take down this fortress. We need to hit them with everything, including the kitchen sink. Anything less isn't enough. We can't afford to be stingy with our ammo. It's either all or nothing, because failure is the complete annilation of the farms
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It's completely correct that every legal avenue should be pursued. I'm still open to a targeted lawsuit, I am open to filing a formal complaint, I am open to a PR website, I am open to everything. I am still pursuing litigation options.
What I don't have is time. I don't have a lot of time to do much. I am inundated with technical work and I'm extremely proactive about it. This time around, I had domain redirects ready to go so fast that I was twice able to forward almost all traffic from locked domains to working domains before the NS records even expired.
I'm still smuckling at the DDoS being turned off because the downtime was so low that it was generally not cost effective to continue paying for it, and the bizarre extortion efforts to get me to blame attacks on specific people and give attention to the attackers fizzled out.
But since I'm doing all that I can't spend it writing articles and doing PR. A lot of people want to know how to help without spending money. Well, here's where people can help.
What I don't have is time. I don't have a lot of time to do much. I am inundated with technical work and I'm extremely proactive about it. This time around, I had domain redirects ready to go so fast that I was twice able to forward almost all traffic from locked domains to working domains before the NS records even expired.
I'm still smuckling at the DDoS being turned off because the downtime was so low that it was generally not cost effective to continue paying for it, and the bizarre extortion efforts to get me to blame attacks on specific people and give attention to the attackers fizzled out.
But since I'm doing all that I can't spend it writing articles and doing PR. A lot of people want to know how to help without spending money. Well, here's where people can help.
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And I think many of us are willing to help and give our time. Even now with all the domain changes and lag (which you've done a good job on) there's still hundreds of us. Even if a fraction directly contributes to this effort, the result will be nothing short of atomic for our enemies
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Genuinely wonder if you can't start undercutting CF with your own DDOS Retarding tech and start bringing in some revenue, if you haven't already done that.
The Farms will live on at least via Tor until such time as Josh tires of running it. No website lives forever. What is a much greater threat is an unaccountable oligopoly acting as the de facto censor of the internet, picking and choosing individual websites at their owners' discretion.
Once the wider world becomes aware that the Tier 1 and Tier 2 providers can and will act as content moderators, everyone is going to want a piece. Think about Disney lawyers demanding that ISPs start policing piracy. After all, they're policing transphobic hate speech, so why not piracy as well? But someone who manages literally 20% of all internet traffic simply cannot afford to moderate content. So they'll break, one way or another. Make them choose between either letting the Internet be free or destroying it completely.
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I hope you're able to get into a position to some day pursue legal action, because this shit is fucking unbelieveable.
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Oh that's very important, make no mistake. We have to get there first. The farms being permanently on Tor drastically limits our reach. We need social power. And to do that, we need to engage our community. Josh is one guy. We are a thousand men. A thousand men with different talents. If all of us give a little of our time, our effort, we will be unstoppable. Cognet will beg us to stop.
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It would be interesting to know which parts of the Domain attacks, DDoS, and Extortion was planned or just opportunistic.
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Keeping this fucking site up you mong
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Exactly.
Maybe it’s web 1.0 era idealism, but whether or not you get to participate in the internet, as a system, shouldn’t be determined how agreeable you are or how popular your opinion is. I totally understand wanting to get people to hate the site less so they’ll be more willing to stand up for it, but at the same time, the core problem here is ISPs going out of their way to do stuff that they shouldn’t be doing in the first place.
We saw what happened with CloudFlare where their first public statement openly admitted that if they ditched KF, it would only result in more takedown requests… And sure enough, as soon as they caved, that’s exactly what they got. Surprise.
Cogent and other ISPs need to be subjected to the same thing. It’s awfully fortunate that we’re on a forum that routinely shines a light into the gross basement crawl spaces of the web, isn’t it?
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I feel for you, on a similar boat but more mid level. Almost all my coworkers are liberal and constantly bitch about racism, homophobia, Trump, etc etc. Hell one of them is a former (?) FtM who has clear mental issues. It's frustrating to hear them bitch and moan about these things yet I can't say a single thing or I run the risk of dealing with HR. These are the people you have to deal with in the industry constantly and it sucks.
Edit: Also FUCK HR anywhere. They almost always suck and it always feels like having a gun over my head at work.
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Because of the malicious threat actors trying their hardest to censor a legal web forum and its users. Go back to the Discord you came from.
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IT staff of old: stereotypicaly geeks
IT staff of new: stereotypicaly pedos and "transgenders"?
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As one guy here once said: "HRT did to autists what crack did to the hood."
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Sure, sounds like a good idea, so long as I can tolerate the cancer of what's archived.
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You are in a thread called "Total Retard War", outlining literally unprecedented attacks on the core infrastructure of the Internet. It's the culmination of a 6 year struggle to keep things from going under after debanking, deplatforming, and censorship from every major Western country on the globe.
If you weren't such a stupid nigger, you might understand how that eats up spare time quicker than whatever piss-easy busywork you call a job.
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Amazing, a total retard showed up for the Total Retard War thread. Your name wasn't being called you dumb pile of faggot shit.
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seems like some sort of extremely violent projection ngl