Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[TismFarmer]

Never trust a FTMs opinion on anything

Seems like Pooners are as bad as MTF, none of them have actually seen a vulva/vagina, they're too 'dysphoric' to look at their own and too weird for real lesbians to have sex with them...

 

[Piss Bear]

Could… Anyone explain why a chick with a dick would be attractive?! Like there must be some reason why men would fap to this.

The taboo and exotic nature of it, I suppose. I've heard especially pornsick individuals say they like breasts but hate vagina, and love dick but hate men, so boom, there you go. Best of both worlds for them. Most of those people have never actually had sex before though, they get their preferences from porn. And a lot of people with these ideals tend to troon out.

I've also speculated for a while if people who watch porn a lot prefer penises to vaginas because it's clear to see when a man is orgasming, they ejaculate, while with women, it can be faked and exaggerated to the point where you can't tell a real one from a fake one. It's more of a "fireworks ending" sort of thing as well, and end to the show for a man to orgasm, whereas well women can just keep doing it.

 

[Fapcop]

The taboo and exotic nature of it, I suppose. I've heard especially pornsick individuals say they like breasts but hate vagina, and love dick but hate men, so boom, there you go. Best of both worlds for them. Most of those people have never actually had sex before though, they get their preferences from porn. And a lot of people with these ideals tend to troon out.

Porn has really messed some people up. And the most degenerate shit is just becoming widely accepted.

There’s so much of it, that I’m starting to feel like I might be a weirdo as a regular dude who doesn’t watch porn, likes vanilla sex and thinks anal and feet are gross.

Am I the outcast Kiwi frens? Do I need to start slapping women and choke them when I have sex?

I've also speculated for a while if people who watch porn a lot prefer penises to vaginas because it's clear to see when a man is orgasming, they ejaculate, while with women, it can be faked and exaggerated to the point where you can't tell a real one from a fake one. It's more of a "fireworks ending" sort of thing as well, and end to the show for a man to orgasm, whereas well women can just keep doing it.

Don’t know about that, though I suppose that if you watch an ejaculating penis thousands of times while you’re climaxing, weird stuff might happen. Like rewiring your brain?

The thing that gets me is how normalized so much of the stuff that would have been considered extreme just a decade or two ago.

Like facefucking, where the woman is gasping for air, “XXX Family therapy” with incest themes, and of course the Lolita/barely legal genre with girls that look to be in their early teens and wear “little girl” outfits?

That kinda stuff has always been there, but not in those quantities and was never this normalized.

Your average woman, I presume, would be disgusted if she found out that a guy is getting off to barely legal videos or incest-shit. Do they even realize how prevalent this is? Or are they still gaslighting themselves with the ol’ “It’s good to have an active sex imagination, it’s harmless!”

 

[Myrtle the Turtle]

And the most degenerate shit is just becoming widely accepted.

10 years ago the concept of "gooning' that is, having a fetish for jacking off and sacrificing your life for coom, was alien except on some rabbitholes online. Now its common and porn is shoved in your face and easily accessible on X, formally known as Twitter. Now anyone can make some side money by becoming a cheap OnlyFans whore

 

[Piss Bear]

Don’t know about that, though I suppose that if you watch an ejaculating penis thousands of times while you’re climaxing, weird stuff might happen. Like rewiring your brain?

Rewiring people's brains indeed. Some people truly do think what they see in porn is in fact real, and how sex is, and should be. Just look at all of the idiots who think they are lesbians because they coom to lesbian porn, and vice versa for pooners. How stupid and gullible do you have to be to think such a nonsensical thing? "I imagine that I'm the woman in the porno, I must be a woman!"

Any "normal" man watching a lesbian porno would at the very least know he can't experience what they are experiencing, same for women watching two dudes. Of course it's normal for a straight woman to want to see two dudes fucking, she likes men, gay porn only focuses on men. And it's normal for a dude to want to see two women fucking, because he likes women and lesbian porn only focuses on women. This just further proves you are a heterosexual, does it not?

 

[Chandelier]

Secondly, your claims about cis women are rather untrue. According to one study, the cis vagina is about 3 inches in its baseline state and 4.3-4.7 inches aroused (link to an article here). That is true with myself as well, my vagina at rest is shorter than my middle finger, and when aroused, can just perfectly accommodate my gf who's 4.5 inches. If we use even a marginally bigger toy I bleed, as trauma after rougher sex is incredibly common.

You bleed after inserting sex toys because you are not sufficiently aroused. Her "girlfriend" is below average - literally an Asian sized dick - and STILL makes her bleed. Either her tiny fucked boyfriend doesn't know where the clit is or he's making her suffer.

Birth is traumatic, tearing is common, and the area can be distended and swollen for up to 6 months after. Many women have permanent changes to their anatomy after birth, not to mention complications like fistulas, bladder leakage, and prolapse, it's not the default state of a vagina to be able to go through birth. Of course, there are women who can accommodate very large penises, they are not run of the mill, and it absolutely does hurt.

"It's not the default state of the vagina to give birth"

...that's literally what it evolved to do. Help a baby pass through the canal. You can avoid tears if you do Kegel exercises and keep the muscle toned. I've also heard anecdotal stuff that being aroused during childbirth helps with lubrication and aids in delivery.

Handmaiden is trying to give a tranny sage advice on vaginas while not realizing what's happening to her isn't normal. You aren't supposed to bleed during insertion. That happens when you're insufficiently wet. Has she tried masturbation?

But hey, least "cis men" get better depth fucking a sigmoid colon

Can't quote your post but lol @batteredpancakes this stuff is hilarious

>cis vaginas are only so deep
>only like 4 inches and can't stretch
>the cervix blocks even though there is more room past the cervix

These people are completely delusional, but not unexpected for men who have never even touched a real female before. These dorks are just looking up default facts about women on medical journals without looking into the more complex elements.

The cervix is loaded with nerves, to the point pinching then to get an IUD leads to excruciating pain.

Not to mention in those twitter videos, along with the fake moaning, one of the tiny tittied trannies looks like Razorfist.

 

[Mad_Dog]

Your average woman, I presume, would be disgusted if she found out that a guy is getting off to barely legal videos or incest-shit. Do they even realize how prevalent this is? Or are they still gaslighting themselves with the ol’ “It’s good to have an active sex imagination, it’s harmless!”

I'm no average woman but I know people men I interact with, IRL or online, watch that shit. I feel it in their aura and I see it in their eyes. It's disgusting but I can't blame or judge them, because today's world makes it far too easy to become a degenerate while thinking it's perfectly normal.

The cervix is loaded with nerves, to the point pinching then to get an IUD leads to excruciating pain.

Tbf, the tenaculum literally pierces the cervix to grab it.

 

[expectant asshole]

I really hate that TRAs take a rare birth defect like a woman not having a labia maniora or having an issue like Vaginismus means that is fine for men to have these issues too.

I’m sure it’s similar for men thinking pooners should fuck off for colonising male issues like ED.

Sorry I’m a bit drunk so translate that to say “fuck off trannies”.

My autocucumber tried to say fuck off tabbies, but I love all cats no matter what colour.

 

[expectant asshole]

I'm no average woman but I know people men I interact with, IRL or online, watch that shit. I feel it in their aura and I see it in their eyes. It's disgusting but I can't blame or judge them, because today's world makes it far too easy to become a degenerate while thinking it's perfectly normal.


Tbf, the tenaculum literally pierces the cervix to grab it.

Double post. But I totally blame and judge them.
Watching porn is a choice and the type of porn is a choice too.

adjusts judgypants and pours another glass of wine

 

[Free the Pedos]

You can avoid tears if you do Kegel exercises and keep the muscle toned. I've also heard anecdotal stuff that being aroused during childbirth helps with lubrication and aids in delivery.

You were right about everything else, but Kegels exercise your pelvic floor muscles, they have nothing to do with tears. And arousal during labor is a free birth fetishist thing.

 

[Fapcop]

I'm no average woman but I know people men I interact with, IRL or online, watch that shit. I feel it in their aura and I see it in their eyes. It's disgusting but I can't blame or judge them, because today's world makes it far too easy to become a degenerate while thinking it's perfectly normal.

You can just… Not be a degenerate I guess?

Not to be a faggot about it, or get overly judgemental but I think it’s something men should discuss: ie: That porn isn’t okay.

Not from a looney tunes feminist perspective about the patriachree but because it ruins men and it ruins relationships. And it ruins women.

 

[batteredpancakes]

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bottom surgery woes

this is mainly a vent post, but wow i feel just absolutely awful having a shitty result and it makes me want to just entirely give up on life. went to a dr. outside of my typical surgery team because theyre pretty far away and i'm over a year post-op at this point. and just had someone try to stick a speculum in my fucking urethra because my results are so bad they couldn't even tell where my canal actually was. i almost started crying on the spot because its just another reminder that my results are shitty and that im "other" to people.

i just want to feel normal

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just had someone try to stick a speculum in my fucking urethra because my results are so bad they couldn't even tell where my canal actually was

I hear this way too much

 

[LongDayAgain]

More from a post-op detransitioner

 

[expectant asshole]

I go through cycles of laughing at how stupid these people are, to being angry at how they behave, to now feeling sorry for them and how they’ve fucked up their perfectly healthy bodies.

 

[Risky Horse Business]

I go through cycles of laughing at how stupid these people are, to being angry at how they behave, to now feeling sorry for them and how they’ve fucked up their perfectly healthy bodies.

I always feel sorry for Richie. He's a brave guy to put all this stuff out there when he knows it's fuel for mockery by many.

All I see when he posts these things is the mad truth that genital reassignment surgery is a lie, and it's going to destroy many people lives. Richie, you deserve to be able to piss and have sex properly.

 

[Positron]

someone try to stick a speculum in my fucking urethra because my results are so bad they couldn't even tell where my canal actually was.

Even gynecologists can't tell which hole is which in your M. C. Escher anatomy,

 

[Peaches Demure]

@batteredpancakes can't quote, but that obviously morbidly obese hamtroll troon who presented the "barely identifiable mass of flesh" is also pursuing weight-loss surgery:

Spoiler: Did you feel like your struggles with identity and/or mental health were accurately taken into account?

https://www.reddit.com/r/gastricsleeve/comments/18q2zl0/possible_trans_patient_experience/

Tsk tsk... what about body positivity and HAES?

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

If he was a young Blair White type tranny then yes but unfortunately for him he's a 38 year old that looks like a thumb.

God... he needs shampoo, a root touch-up, a brow wax... he needs a benevolent gay male friend.

So anyone that thinks this shallow little non-stretchy orifice made with penis skin stuffed inside you will suffice for male penatrative sex (WHICH SHOULD NOT HURT & should be as ROUGH, HARD, DEEP as YOU want it to be should be up to you & YOU ONLY!) are mistaken. I’m convinced all these surgeons & trans women gaslighting us into accepting this are either lesbians or just don’t even have sex.

Pretty based tranny NGL.

Colon is much more invasive, it’s a longer surgery with more risks and less options for revision. It’s not well studied for long term health effects, has slightly higher complication rates and for reputable surgeons will have more restrictive pre surgery health requirements so more women will be preemptively excluded.

Found the fatty who couldn't get colon.

Or you might need to see a gyno for nitrate treatments.

Is that those silver nitrate wound treatments?

You should educate yourself on the pelvic anatomy. Yes cis women have a cervix. That cervix connected between an elastic vagina and a uterus that can lift up out of the pelvis to accommodate a penis

What? Is this true?

Any "normal" man watching a lesbian porno would at the very least know he can't experience what they are experiencing, same for women watching two dudes. Of course it's normal for a straight woman to want to see two dudes fucking, she likes men, gay porn only focuses on men. And it's normal for a dude to want to see two women fucking, because he likes women and lesbian porn only focuses on women. This just further proves you are a heterosexual, does it not?

Fujos BTFOed.

You bleed after inserting sex toys because you are not sufficiently aroused. Her "girlfriend" is below average - literally an Asian sized dick - and STILL makes her bleed. Either her tiny fucked boyfriend doesn't know where the clit is or he's making her suffer.

All women with MTF partners probably deal with this.

Not to mention in those twitter videos, along with the fake moaning, one of the tiny tittied trannies looks like Razorfist.

Now I'll be looking for Razorfist trannies.

 

[Chandelier]

@Free the Pedos (I fucked up the quote button) There has been some research done, and it's interesting nonetheless.

Even gynecologists can't tell which hole is which in your M. C. Escher anatomy,

As Mama Doctor Jones would say: all vulvas are valid.

Even the necrotic ones.

Speaking of, I found this paper on HBD twitter. Troons overestimate the size of genitalia. This includes transwomen and pooners.

Source. Snippet:

Transgender men (TM) seeking gGAS with phalloplasty must consider what penile length they desire. Studies have suggested that most TM desire at least an “average” penis length, with many desiring an above-average penis length.7-9 However, evidence has shown that, among cisgender men (CM), there is a misperception of what “average” or “normal” penis size is, with as many as 85% of men overestimating normal penis length.10,11 During preoperative discussions, TM must communicate what phallus length they desire so that the surgeon can confirm whether it is feasible. Ideally, the surgeon should document this discussion in detail.8,12,13

Similarly, transgender women (TW) seeking feminizing procedures must discuss neovaginal depth with the surgeon. Transfeminine patients presenting for vaginoplasty surgery who desire a vaginal canal to practice receptive vaginal intercourse typically request a neovaginal depth based on the perceived length of their sexual partners’ penises. Therefore, preoperative discussions should involve a consideration of partner anatomy and expectations for postoperative sexual activity, when appropriate.

Currently, there is no established tool to aid discussions around penis size during preoperative counseling before gGAS. Furthermore, prior studies on perceptions of normal penile dimensions have relied on participants generating a number based on preconceived ideas of penis size, without a visual aid.10,14 To date, there has not been a study that has quantified how accurately or inaccurately individuals are able to visually perceive penis length and width. The purpose of this study was to assess the degree of accuracy with which people visually estimate the size of the human penis, including penile length, width, and girth.

Basically says transmen want mega dongs.

TM significantly overestimated length for the 4.75-, 5.6-, and 6.5-in models and significantly underestimated length for the shortest model (4.0 in). They also significantly overestimated width for all models. These findings suggest biases where individuals use mental measurements to “see” a penis as being of greater length and width than it is.

These length and width biases are important considerations for all TM who seek phalloplasty surgery, as at some point, they must relay a desired phallus length to the surgeon, and this is often based on their visual perception of an “average” cisgender man’s penis length. Because patients can share only numeric measurements with their surgeons, an overestimation of average CM’s penis length will obviously lead them to request a penis that is longer than they actually desire. Two other potential surgical decision-making pitfalls for TM are that CM tend to relay a “greater than actual” measurement of their own penis length to others and that men tend to overestimate “average” penis length.14,15

Explains why they want coke can cocks.

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

Tbf, the tenaculum literally pierces the cervix to grab it.

Spoiler: IUD insertion

Some providers will apply topical lidocaine to the cervix a few minutes prior to IUD insertion. This makes the entire cervix numb and renders the insertion so much less unpleasant. For the women reading this, it's definitely worth asking about.