Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[CaptainAutism69]

So the UAF claim they intercepted all hypersonic missiles today...riiiiiight

 

[Glowing In The Streets]

Implying:
1. Neocons in DC wouldn't blow up a smaller US city to get their war back on rails
2. The neocons in DC understand/give a shit about the implications and consequences of #1

It wouldn't be the first time neocons blow up an American building to gather war support

 

[HerrKlicks]

So the UAF claim they intercepted all hypersonic missiles today...riiiiiight

128% of the missiles were intercepted, of course... / S

 

[Fatniggo1488]

Several waves of Geran-2, large number of various cruise missiles and at least several Kinzhal's

Interesting they actually went after quite a few command centers this time round.

Ukrainians claim of course they intercepted almost everything. But somehow Ukrainian "peaceful infrastructure" keeps blowing up. Must still be those malfunctioning air conditioners......


Some cope and seethe from a dumbass Ukie.

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https://twitter.com/Irina_Krupka/status/1741772807585907120

The Polacks in the comment section are rightfully roasting the bitch.

Lol I love how half the replies are people calling each other Nazis.

 

[Male Idiot]

Lol I love how half the replies are people calling each other Nazis.

The duality of slavdom. Nazi or commie, white or not.

 

[namelesstacotruck]

Its my understanding you cant really false flag a nuke. They give off radiation signatures that tie back to the facility they were made at in the fallout.

IOW everyone would know it was a US nuke and if it wasnt immediately armageddon and had time to check. They would have to do some Call of Duty shit and steal some from Russia, China, India to not make it immediately obvious it was a false flag.

Of course that may just be glowie bullshit

 

[ilovejews]

Lol I love how half the replies are people calling each other Nazis.

The duality of slavdom. Nazi or commie, white or not.

Putler is pretty much the go to insult east of Germany and west of Ukraine, in my experience.

 

[Betonhaus]

Its my understanding you cant really false flag a nuke. They give off radiation signatures that tie back to the facility they were made at in the fallout.

IOW everyone would know it was a US nuke and if it wasnt immediately armageddon and had time to check. They would have to do some Call of Duty shit and steal some from Russia, China, India to not make it immediately obvious it was a false flag.

Of course that may just be glowie bullshit

While I really wouldn't put it past the US to do a nuke false flag because all of their spy agencies are full of retarded inbreds, doing a nuke is a very clear line that if crossed opens the doors for a nuclear war. And I really doubt the US is competent enough to have kept all their nukes in working condition.

 

[ForTheHoard]

I mean it's apparently common for people to take regular M91/30's put on a period correct mount and scope, and then try to pass it off as an original M91/30 PU.

There's no shortage of Mosin abominations in the US. Around 2006, my local shop had an entire rack of surplus Mosins and the most expensive one was around $100. We bought a couple just trying to fuck around with them. I totally didn't do it because it would have been a illegal, but a friend of mine heard about a guy that chopped one down and tried to mount it to an AR as an under-barrel attachment.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

1. Neocons in DC wouldn't blow up a smaller US city to get their war back on rails

What, and blame Russia? How? Ivan hit the wrong button at Kremlin Kontrol? Putin said "Suka it let's do it blyat"? Dmitry Medvedev found some 1812 vintage vodka, got hammered and decided it was time?

I mean you could convince the average burger of anything but there's no one else that would fall for it and it risks worldwide nuclear war as all the nukes in Europe ain't shit compared to Russia, and China, sending them to US and Europe. No, the neocon tard that argued for it has been silenced some time ago and sent to Mexico to make sure the cartels give the spooks their proper cut.

 

[namelesstacotruck]

While I really wouldn't put it past the US to do a nuke false flag because all of their spy agencies are full of retarded inbreds, doing a nuke is a very clear line that if crossed opens the doors for a nuclear war. And I really doubt the US is competent enough to have kept all their nukes in working condition.

You dont "keep them in working condition" so much as they have a 5 to 8 year shelf life and then all they are good for is a dirty bomb. They have to be cycled constantly via replacement. My guess is the subs have the majority of the actually working ones and its 50/50 if any of the rest work.

The number of reactors that can make nuclear material is known sense apparently they spit out specific types of radiation that isnt normal and spy sats can catch. Maybe the glowies have special sekrit hidden reactors or some special blend of nuke that doesnt work that way. But odds seem poor they could keep those secret from Russian and China. And China (and maybe India) would be the ones that would have to be convinced of a false flag. Europe is a vassal state and would ignore any amount of evidence, Africa doesnt matter, and if anybody is being allowed to get away with sooper sekrit nuke facility its the Saudis.

 

[IamnottheNSA]

I totally didn't do it because it would have been a illegal, but a friend of mine heard about a guy that chopped one down and tried to mount it to an AR as an under-barrel attachment.

He should've just made an obrez, real Russian Revolution classic right there.

 

[prolapsed_cranium]

The Kholhols love sucking Bandera's cock so fucking much. I bet his grandpa killed alot of Polish "partisans"

I hope his passport gets revoked and he has to go back to fight.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I am not sure why 300meters+ body armour was a thing. Maybe for commandos and snipers, ok.

But regular Joe would be under return fire and its easier to just suppress infantry and mortar them then to have your soldiers bullseye them at 900 feet. We could say some arab goat farmer can't suppress you, but he is wearing top notch armor?

Plus these modern armors usually don't have full face helmets. Which is a part you need to poke out of cover to snipe at enemies I assume.

I think we need to ask mountain goat people which is better?

M16A4 or AK-47

They have fought for about 30 years so they should have a good understanding.

DIE UKRAINIAN NIGGERS DIE DIE DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You retarded low class bum.

Show some class.

Invoke the bible like a man of culture, when calling for the death of these neggervolk.

 

[Scale Smerch]

Its my understanding you cant really false flag a nuke. They give off radiation signatures that tie back to the facility they were made at in the fallout.

IOW everyone would know it was a US nuke and if it wasnt immediately armageddon and had time to check. They would have to do some Call of Duty shit and steal some from Russia, China, India to not make it immediately obvious it was a false flag.

Of course that may just be glowie bullshit

If there was a three letter agency which wanted to go down this path you wouldn't have it originate from a known facility, you'd have an ad-hoc one assembled just for the purpose. Similar idea to the Sum of All Fears:
- Have some "misplaced" fissile material end up in the hands of ingenious zealots with a nuclear engineering hobby
- Turn a blind eye when they create the bomb, ship it to the target, and let loose
- Make profit by being able to pin it with evidence on the country/group of choice

Plenty of places such a scheme can go wrong (e.g. unaware third parties preemptively discovering it), but it's scarily doable, particularly if one is willing to plan it out over several years in order to let said zealots enrich a batch of raw uranium. Like say in Iran.

 

[Napoleon III]

Implying:
1. Neocons in DC wouldn't blow up a smaller US city to get their war back on rails
2. The neocons in DC understand/give a shit about the implications and consequences of #1

There are all kinds of things preventing massive escalations in both directions. By escalations I mean one country entering the war or certain countries providing material support. The untold story of this war is probably all the diplomatic things happening that we only get hints of. There is probably a massive web of backroom deals none of us know about and likely I am missing more countries than the ones mentioned.

On the things preventing America escalating we have a couple factors I can think of. One is poor readiness of the US military in general. One is lack of will to fight within the American populace. And before anyone starts mentioning false flags to change that consider how bad of an idea it is to fight an expensive in both lives and money war when food and everything else is expensive. Certainly Neocons don't really care but I don't think the Neocons are really in power anymore. Anthony Blinken and the State department are calling a lot of the shots right now.
The final big thing preventing the US from Escalating is China. China isn't sending artillery shells or guided munitions or personnel or anything of that nature. If the US escalated by going to war, China can simply send a whole bunch of equipment and their more eager personnel to Russia.

Of the things preventing Russia from escalating by using nuclear weapons there are basically 2 maybe a bit more factors. Those factors are India, China and the global south. China has been kind of keeping things calm in this war and India has been playing both sides. China provides a large amount of the things Russia needs in a general economic sense and cannot afford to make them unhappy. India also buys a large chunk of Russian Oil. The global south in general buys a lot of Russian goods and keeping them happy is a little worthwhile.

I think major escalation is unlikely given the factors and escalation not really being to the benefit of anyone involved although that theory will be tested once Ukraine really starts to lose and the there is a palpable feeling of despair.

If there was a three letter agency which wanted to go down this path you wouldn't have it originate from a known facility, you'd have an ad-hoc one assembled just for the purpose. Similar idea to the Sum of All Fears:
- Have some "misplaced" fissile material end up in the hands of ingenious zealots with a nuclear engineering hobby
- Turn a blind eye when they create the bomb, ship it to the target, and let loose
- Make profit by being able to pin it with evidence on the country/group of choice

Plenty of places such a scheme can go wrong (e.g. unaware third parties preemptively discovering it), but it's scarily doable, particularly if one is willing to plan it out over several years in order to let said zealots enrich a batch of raw uranium. Like say in Iran.

I see many posts ignoring the actual nuclear disaster that has been threatened but still hasn't occurred. The

Zaphornina Nuclear Power Plant. ​

 

[namelesstacotruck]

If there was a three letter agency which wanted to go down this path you wouldn't have it originate from a known facility, you'd have an ad-hoc one assembled just for the purpose. Similar idea to the Sum of All Fears:
- Have some "misplaced" fissile material end up in the hands of ingenious zealots with a nuclear engineering hobby
- Turn a blind eye when they create the bomb, ship it to the target, and let loose
- Make profit by being able to pin it with evidence on the country/group of choice

Plenty of places such a scheme can go wrong (e.g. unaware third parties preemptively discovering it), but it's scarily doable, particularly if one is willing to plan it out over several years in order to let said zealots enrich a batch of raw uranium. Like say in Iran.

One of the main plot points of that book was that doesnt quite work. The origin of the material is still traceable. An ad hoc one is probably the number one thing they try to keep an eye out for still. The stuff requires for an ad hoc one is monitored by ever agency in the world. If it was that easy Iran would already be up and operational

 

[Betonhaus]

If there was a three letter agency which wanted to go down this path you wouldn't have it originate from a known facility, you'd have an ad-hoc one assembled just for the purpose. Similar idea to the Sum of All Fears:
- Have some "misplaced" fissile material end up in the hands of ingenious zealots with a nuclear engineering hobby
- Turn a blind eye when they create the bomb, ship it to the target, and let loose
- Make profit by being able to pin it with evidence on the country/group of choice

Plenty of places such a scheme can go wrong (e.g. unaware third parties preemptively discovering it), but it's scarily doable, particularly if one is willing to plan it out over several years in order to let said zealots enrich a batch of raw uranium. Like say in Iran.

When the underwater pipeline was bombed everyone suspected it was America right away, and those suspicions have not been properly denied. If some place gets nuked with no warning it's going to obviously be America's fault.

 

[geckogoy]

Given the assumed capabilities (i will obtain fissile material from whatever reactor i want to implicate whatever party) you'd think everything would implicitly be their fault simply for allowing it to happen

 

[Slur Generator]

If there was a three letter agency which wanted to go down this path you wouldn't have it originate from a known facility, you'd have an ad-hoc one assembled just for the purpose. Similar idea to the Sum of All Fears:
- Have some "misplaced" fissile material end up in the hands of ingenious zealots with a nuclear engineering hobby
- Turn a blind eye when they create the bomb, ship it to the target, and let loose
- Make profit by being able to pin it with evidence on the country/group of choice

Plenty of places such a scheme can go wrong (e.g. unaware third parties preemptively discovering it), but it's scarily doable, particularly if one is willing to plan it out over several years in order to let said zealots enrich a batch of raw uranium. Like say in Iran.

There are nukes missing from when the USSR fell. You don't think the feds snapped em up ?