Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Regarding the Aid packages that keep getting rejected down partizan lines, are they filled with poison pills unrelated to Ukraine? I heard that the Dems tried tying aid to Israel with Ukraine but I'm curious if a bunch of dumb social pet projects were paper clipped in an attempt to secure funding.
 
Remember, every accusation is a projection. Nobody is contesting the fact that the Ukrainian army and the Ukrainian state have massive problems. However, due to ziggers being unrelenting schizos, many are forced to defend something they may not necessarily agree with, since to agree with a schizo take is outright insulting to one's dignity.
Agreed.
And I'd also argue the difference is that Ukraine is at least taking steps to reform and improve, Russia just seems to be worsening and only deepening its corruption.

Everyone hates neolibs and neocons. They still cling to power, but in the end they'll die out.
Everyone hates Gypsies but somehow not they are exterminated yet and Gypsies still roam free, shitting up decent places, furious at the Irish for stealing their their schtick and being better at it.

Regarding the Aid packages that keep getting rejected down partizan lines, are they filled with poison pills unrelated to Ukraine? I heard that the Dems tried tying aid to Israel with Ukraine but I'm curious if a bunch of dumb social pet projects were paper clipped in an attempt to secure funding.

I haven't kept up with every performative attempt because they need to put on a show for voters before the real bill is rolled out, but answer is certainly yes. There has always been some sort of pork-barreling with every package except I believe the time Ukraine Aid was the pork-barrel on the Defense Budget.
 
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Everyone hates Gypsies but somehow not they are exterminated yet and Gypsies still roam free, shitting up decent places, furious at the Irish for stealing their their schtick and being better at it.
How the fuck are you people so seething lmao? I attack an ideology, I don't attack any of you personally, I attack it based on data and facts, and look at how MATI you got just from that.
The absolute lulz.
CHILL. Trust me. CHILL.
 
How the fuck are you people so seething lmao? I attack an ideology, I don't attack any of you personally, I attack it based on data and facts, and look at how MATI you got just from that.
The absolute lulz.
CHILL. Trust me. CHILL.
I'm not disagreeing that no one like Neolibs or neocons, only your assertion they will vanish.
We can see that Gypsies are universally reviled yet still keep existing to the detriment of humanity.
So a group being worthless, subhuman inbred pedophilliac copper-stealing parasites leeching from other societies doesn't mean they will disappear, despite being universally hated, loathed, reviled and just generally terrible.
So seems like you need to chill yourself.
 
I'm not disagreeing that no one like Neolibs or neocons, only your assertion they will vanish.
We can see that Gypsies are universally reviled yet still keep existing to the detriment of humanity.
So a group being worthless, subhuman inbred pedophilliac copper-stealing parasites leeching from other societies doesn't mean they will disappear, despite being universally hated, loathed, reviled and just generally terrible.
So seems like you need to chill yourself.
Fuck off Amerimutt lmao
 
How the fuck are you people so seething lmao? I attack an ideology, I don't attack any of you personally, I attack it based on data and facts, and look at how MATI you got just from that.
The absolute lulz.
CHILL. Trust me. CHILL.
Did something happen to you the past month? You're behaving differently.
 
Did something happen to you the past month? You're behaving differently.
Not at all, I'm just no longer pretending to like things I dislike which was incredibly obnoxious and boring, due to idiotic thread rules.
Just because I want Ukraine whole it doesn't follow that I should like the US. Or its allies. Yuck.
 
I've been watching this muscovite guntuber do things like shoot grenades to see if they explode, review Russian suppressors & gear, test Chinese helmets, show training & give advice to newly mobilized, etc. In any case it's interesting, and so far they've done a few things that I haven't seen Western or Ukrainian guntubers do yet.

The grenade bouquet was pretty neat, although they fucked up a perfectly fine building just to demonstrate.

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Just because I want Ukraine whole it doesn't follow that I should like the US. Or its allies. Yuck.
I'm not following. The entire thread is full of people who are a lot more nuanced than the Russian thread which is full of /pol/ contrarians and propagandized Russian nationalists.
muscovite guntuber
Isn't this the guy who's funded by the government? I remember seeing him a year ago.
 
I'm not following. The entire thread is full of people who are a lot more nuanced than the Russian thread which is full of /pol/ contrarians and propagandized Russian nationalists.
I don't follow either. What does the Russian thread have to do with my own opinions, which are territorial integrity for Ukraine, remove Russia from Ukrainian land? The people in that thread think Russia is fighting "ZOG", but most of them are pro-Israel too, with rare exceptions lmao, so it's just turbo-autism hours.
 
I don't follow either. What does the Russian thread have to do with my own opinions, which are territorial integrity for Ukraine, remove Russia from Ukrainian land? The people in that thread think Russia is fighting "ZOG", but most of them are pro-Israel too, with rare exceptions lmao, so it's just turbo-autism hours.
Because you're acting a little like that which is concerning. I think I understand what your point is and I think you ironed that out with someone else a few pages ago.
He's one of them; the other guy (who is more on the Demo Ranch tip) is from DPR iirc.
Okay. I haven't seen this guy before.
 
Just feel up Putin's nipples and tell me that he isn't turned on by people he sends to slaughter to HIMARS, ATACMS, Cluster bombs, mines and napalm

I think he has a vendetta against gopniks who bullied him and developed a complex.
Can anyone tell me what is the course/map of war? Had stomach polyp surgery so was out of loop
 
I don't follow either. What does the Russian thread have to do with my own opinions, which are territorial integrity for Ukraine, remove Russia from Ukrainian land? The people in that thread think Russia is fighting "ZOG", but most of them are pro-Israel too, with rare exceptions lmao, so it's just turbo-autism hours.
Their logic is absolutely baffling to me
>War in middle east is bad
>Get sucked into another war in middle east
>Tax money is funneled to rat hunt Hamas
>Israel still controls the narrative and middle east is more destabilized
>Rapefugees and Hamas terrorists flood "based" countries
>???
>The ZOG played you like a fiddle.

Zigger logic gentlemen
 
Russians claim all Ukrainian missiles were shot down
All 400 of the missiles were intercepted and landed harmlessly on saki airbase, where a small number of obviously unoccupied buildings were slightly damaged to a fine powder. The Ukrainian terrorists lost thirty thousand pressganged women and children in the attack and were driven back to the border with Poland, where polish patriots are waiting to round them up and march on Kiev.
 
"Mouse Fever" sickening troops in Ukraine:
TOPLINE A disease spread by rodents that causes vomiting and bleeding from the eyes called “mouse fever” is tearing through Russian troops fighting in Ukraine, according to Ukrainian intelligence, illustrating the poor conditions soldiers face as the war edges towards stalemate and nears the two-year mark.
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Ukrainian military intelligence says Russian [+]
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KEY FACTS
“Mouse fever” is reportedly “mowing down” Russian troops “en masse” near the city of Kupyansk in Ukraine’s Kharkiv region, Ukraine’s military intelligence directorate (GUR) said in a Telegram post.


Symptoms of mouse fever include a severe headache, fever, rashes, low blood pressure, nausea, vomiting and bleeding from the eyes, GUR said, adding that the disease resembles flu in its early stages.

The disease also affects the kidneys, GUR wrote, meaning infected people can experience severe pain in the lower back and have difficulty urinating.

The disease is spread by rodents and transmitted to humans when they inhale dust from rodent excrement or eat contaminated food, the GUR said.


GUR claimed the Russian command is ignoring complaints from its troops about illnesses like mouse fever, believing them to be an excuse to avoid combat duties.

GUR’s report on the disease spreading through Russian troops has not been independently verified and Russia’s Defense Ministry did not immediately respond to Forbes’ request for comment.

WHAT WE DON’T KNOW
GUR did not identify the disease it claims is striking down Russian troops. The agency said it was viral in nature, which, along with its mode of transmission and the symptoms identified, suggests mouse fever could be hemorrhagic fever with renal syndrome (HFRS). According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, HFRS is a “ group of clinically similar illnesses caused by” a cluster of related viruses known as hantaviruses. Hantaviruses, which can also cause respiratory infections, are carried and transmitted by rodents and people can become infected following exposure to aerosolized urine, droppings or saliva, in addition to direct contact with broken skin or membranes of the eyes, nose or mouth. There is no specific treatment, cure or vaccine for hantavirus infection according to the CDC and “rodent control is the primary strategy for preventing hantavirus infections.” Depending on the virus and type of infection, hantavirus can be fatal in fewer than 1% of cases or as many as 38% of cases.

TANGENT
Rat-bite fever could also be the disease in question according to several news outlets. According to the CDC, rat-bite fever is caused by two different kinds of bacteria—Streptobacillus moniliformis and Spirillum minus—transmitted to humans following contact with rodents, typically through bites or scratches, contact with saliva, urine or feces or by consuming contaminated food or drink (when it is known as Haverhill fever). Untreated, rat-bite fever can be serious or even fatal, the CDC warns, with symptoms including fever, vomiting, headache, muscle and joint pain and rash. The CDC said antibiotics are often highly effective at treating the disease if they are taken promptly after sickness begins and that the best way of lowering the risk of contracting rat-bite fever is to avoid direct contact with rodents.

KEY BACKGROUND
War zones are bleak and create ideal conditions for illness and disease. Historically, infectious diseases have accounted for a major portion of the deaths and injuries suffered during war, often exceeding the death toll from the battlefield. Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is no exception and includes both civilians and the military. The loss of critical infrastructure like safe drinking water in battered cities and disruption of routine vaccination has sparked fears of disease outbreaks like cholera and measles and Ukrainian hospitals are reportedly battling an “alarming increase” in drug-resistant infections following the breakdown of usual protocols and hygiene levels normally used to prevent infection. Beyond the risk of serious injury on the battlefield—something that reportedly does not stop Russia from sending someone back to the frontlines—fighters are also facing a multitude of risks to their health. Russian troops, many of whom are prisoner recruits, have reportedly suffered radiation sickness after digging trenches in Chernobyl, been infected with anthrax (also when digging trenches) and turned to high levels of drug use in the trenches, which are reportedly filthy and filled with rats.
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Great news for all Vatniggers & Ziggers: they can leave the degenerate west for the Trad Paradise that is Russia.

All they need to do is join Russia's glorious march to victory for one measly year.

Putin offers easier path to citizenship for foreigners who join Russian military
Russian President Vladimir Putin has made it easier to gain Russian citizenship for foreigners who join his country’s military.

Putin signed the decree allowing the easier path to Russian citizenship Thursday as the war in Ukraine nears the two-year mark. He previously permitted the speeding up of citizenship for foreigners that sign contracts with the Russian army back in September 2022, when he allowed immigrants that signed a contract of a year or more and took part in active hostilities for a minimum of six months to apply for citizenship without some other requirements. Applications for citizenships would then be decided upon in three months.

In May 2023, the Russian president made the aforementioned process even easier by way of another decree, getting rid of the need for engaging in six months of active hostilities for the foreigners. Those who also signed a minimum yearlong contract amid the war in Ukraine could now apply as part of the process.

Thursday’s decree attempts to cut the decision time for applications from three months to within one month. According to The Associated Press, no comment was made by the Kremlin as to why the change was made.

Putin’s decree also comes amid struggles to pass more aid to Ukraine in the U.S. Senate. Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) has suggested that negotiators are getting closer to a long-contested deal on the border that could also pave the way for Ukraine aid.

“We’re making progress. We’re closer than we have been, but this is a very difficult issue and there’s still different issues to be overcome with,” Schumer told reporters after opening the Senate for the second half of the 118th Congress.

“Everyone’s going to have to give something to get this done. No one can just get his or her own way,” Schumer said.
 
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