Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

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You're absolutely right, there should not be black and white thinking but when such issues are politicised rather than considered medically, this is where we end up.

My vexation came from the use of "murder" as a way to emotionally manipulate readers, in conjunction with the refusal to consider the potential suffering that the baby would endure in its short time on Earth.

Once parents are given the diagnosis that their fetus is incompatible with life I find it easy to believe that some mothers are so traumatised that they can't consider carrying a baby to term that is doomed to die. If they choose to terminate that is their choice, one they should never be shamed or judged for. The mother's psychological state is also a factor that has to be considered.
I think those situations with those families are intensely private, and the government needs to stay out. It needs to be between the consent of the mother and the provider who really is trying to adhere to the principle of treating and healing, whatever that means in that context. It's going to vary from person to person, and I am okay with that. Federal licensed provider discretion is an excellent bedfellow with patient consent. The trouble is when it starts forcing people to practice outside their consciences, even with referrals. (I won't deep dive that and trigger overly angry pro-choicers, but it happens.) I don't think Roe vs. Wade really defined it enough. Back to the murder thing.

The reality of termination is really not something most people understand, even if they've had a miscarriage, induced or otherwise. Punctuating with cries of murder isn't making anyone consider if maybe rather than ending a HEALTHY pregnancy that ends with a healthy and supported mom and baby maybe isn't a better outcome with greater purpose and love.
 

What a massive fucking waste. Depending on your location, spare breastmilk can be donated to milk banks, to save the lives of premature babies (breastmilk helps to prevent necrotising enterocolitis). Or it can be sold for quite high prices.

She can do what she wants with her milk but I can’t fathom throwing away something your body has worked so hard to make.

It’s not even special, most fats are going to soften skin.
 
I think those situations with those families are intensely private, and the government needs to stay out. It needs to be between the consent of the mother and the provider who really is trying to adhere to the principle of treating and healing, whatever that means in that context. It's going to vary from person to person, and I am okay with that. Federal licensed provider discretion is an excellent bedfellow with patient consent. The trouble is when it starts forcing people to practice outside their consciences, even with referrals. (I won't deep dive that and trigger overly angry pro-choicers, but it happens.) I don't think Roe vs. Wade really defined it enough. Back to the murder thing.

The reality of termination is really not something most people understand, even if they've had a miscarriage, induced or otherwise. Punctuating with cries of murder isn't making anyone consider if maybe rather than ending a HEALTHY pregnancy that ends with a healthy and supported mom and baby maybe isn't a better outcome with greater purpose and love.
I dont want to sperg and get away from the mashed potato purpose of this thread, but happy to chat further privately if you like.
 
Right now, the absolute earliest a baby could possibly survive outside the womb is about 22 weeks. Before that, the lungs do not fully function and cannot oxygenate blood even if the baby is ventilated. The GI tract also does not start to function until about 26 weeks, either.
The current most premature baby to survive is Curtis Means, who was born at the University of Alabama at 21 weeks, 1 day gestation back in 2020. Curtis weighed 420 grams (14.8 ounces, or less than 1 pound) at birth and spent 275 days in the NICU before going home. He was a twin, but his sister, C'Asya, died within hours of birth.

Here's Curtis shortly after birth. Warning, micropreemie.
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Curtis had bronchopulmonary dysplasia, which would be completely expected for an infant so premature, and went home on supplemental oxygen, but he is now a thriving toddler.

Here he is now.
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There's always room in this thread for something positive.
 
The current most premature baby to survive is Curtis Means, who was born at the University of Alabama at 21 weeks, 1 day gestation back in 2020. Curtis weighed 420 grams (14.8 ounces, or less than 1 pound) at birth and spent 275 days in the NICU before going home. He was a twin, but his sister, C'Asya, died within hours of birth.

Here's Curtis shortly after birth. Warning, micropreemie.

Curtis had bronchopulmonary dysplasia, which would be completely expected for an infant so premature, and went home on supplemental oxygen, but he is now a thriving toddler.

Here he is now.
There's always room in this thread for something positive.
Other than being a twin, is there any reason why he was born so prematurely? Also, what is his long term prognosis?

That's pretty amazing he was able to survive that early. Was it luck, or were there specific medical advancements that made it possible?
 
I’m at the gym right now and there’s a guy with Down syndrome who is yoked. He was doing weighted chin ups and keeps running through sets. I think he did 8x5 with a 25lb weight on his belt. When he did his last set, he picked up a handful of chalk and tossed it in the air.

Absolute GigaChad.
Tard strength is no joke.
 
Other than being a twin, is there any reason why he was born so prematurely? Also, what is his long term prognosis?

That's pretty amazing he was able to survive that early. Was it luck, or were there specific medical advancements that made it possible?
Just luck, from what I gather. It actually sounds like both newborns were just given comfort care immediately after birth, but Curtis just kept on living unexpectedly, so they initiated more invasive measures.

I wasn't able to find any information about why his mom went into labor so early. Whatever happened, it appears to have gone very bad very fast, because there wasn't even time to administer steroids to his mother to help his lungs develop prior to delivery, which is an intervention that has been very common for decades.

All told, it appears to defy explanation. A neonatologist who cared for Curtis and his sister at birth explained, “Curtis defied all scientific odds. Gestational age and birth weight are two key predictors of a premature baby’s survival, and other factors include if the baby is a female, a single birth and if the mother was administered steroids that help with lung development before birth. Curtis did not meet any of these criteria.”

Just one of those things, I suppose. For every "one in a million" lightning strike of bad luck, there's a Curtis Means out there living his life.
 
I’m at the gym right now and there’s a guy with Down syndrome who is yoked. He was doing weighted chin ups and keeps running through sets. I think he did 8x5 with a 25lb weight on his belt. When he did his last set, he picked up a handful of chalk and tossed it in the air.

Absolute GigaChad.
Theres a often misquoted fact about swans, that they can break a mans arm. The real fact is that a Downie can break a mans arm.
 
Just luck, from what I gather. It actually sounds like both newborns were just given comfort care immediately after birth, but Curtis just kept on living unexpectedly, so they initiated more invasive measures.

I wasn't able to find any information about why his mom went into labor so early. Whatever happened, it appears to have gone very bad very fast, because there wasn't even time to administer steroids to his mother to help his lungs develop prior to delivery, which is an intervention that has been very common for decades.

All told, it appears to defy explanation. A neonatologist who cared for Curtis and his sister at birth explained, “Curtis defied all scientific odds. Gestational age and birth weight are two key predictors of a premature baby’s survival, and other factors include if the baby is a female, a single birth and if the mother was administered steroids that help with lung development before birth. Curtis did not meet any of these criteria.”

Just one of those things, I suppose. For every "one in a million" lightning strike of bad luck, there's a Curtis Means out there living his life.
Does he have any serious ongoing health problems? Or just relatively minor issues?

Sounds like a real miracle case. Unfortunately I doubt most babies in that situation are so lucky.
 
All I have to say about tard babies is that I feel bad for them. They didn’t chose to have such horrid genetics or ancestors who practices consanguinity (cousin marriages).

Take for example the Cajuns. They were Acadian settlers from Nova Scotia who settled in swampy rural southern Louisiana. They were relatively isolated from other French-settled communities: for example the French Creoles (White French, Afro-French, etc, only wealthier Cajuns married them) and they kept on cousin marrying resulting in various genetic diseases such as Tay Sachs, Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease and Usher’s disease. One town in Louisiana called Iota has a high rate of Tay-Sachs, owing to a thing called a founder effect where a small subset of the French population emigrated from France set up a colony and intermarried with their distant cousins for generations leading to Tay-Sachs. The Cajuns of Louisiana for example came from a smaller slice (around 3,000 founding stock to Louisiana) of the larger Acadian population in the 1760s. That’s why Cajun Country or Acadia has a high rate of tard babies

Ofc this isn’t something all Cajuns have. The railroad, highways, roads and car ownership plus scientific knowledge has greatly reduced these cases as many Cajuns marry creoles, Irish Catholics, German Catholics, or Italians to avoid inbreeding. But the problems still exist in isolated Cajun settlements in small town Louisiana
 
I'm trying not to PL, but southwest Louisiana is very dear to me. However, you would never be able to convince people of abortion being a good thing there. People would rather rely on their families than adnit that they should've never had the baby.
Southern Louisiana also has a bunch of pollution from chemical plants and oil refineries that have been linked to some chernobyl-like birth defects
Citgo, Westlake Chemical, and I think one more, are the biggest money makers for the area. Deepwater Horizon wasn't that distant of a memory, either. I vividly remember a friend saying how it would blow up in the mainstream media the week it happened, and he was right
One town in Louisiana called Iota has a high rate of Tay-Sachs
It's also very close to Lake Charles, where the husband of Gypsy Rose Blanchard hails from. It's only one parish over (or county, if you're a Yankee).
 
Southern Louisiana also has a bunch of pollution from chemical plants and oil refineries that have been linked to some chernobyl-like birth defects
Louisiana is one of the most corrupt and impoverished states in America, so no surprise the chemicals would elevate genetic defects.
I'm trying not to PL, but southwest Louisiana is very dear to me. However, you would never be able to convince people of abortion being a good thing there. People would rather rely on their families than adnit that they should've never had the baby.
What’s strange about the Tay Sachs carried by Cajuns/Acadians is that it’s not the same mutation as those found in French Canada. The mutation is identical to what Ashkenazi Jews have, and is said to be traced to one French couple who settled Acadia. Due to the founder effect, the mutated HEXA gene spread around the community through intermarriage and the rates of TS elevated in subsequent generations.

I found an article from 1990 talking about Tay Sachs in Iota, LA. Here
 
What’s strange about the Tay Sachs carried by Cajuns/Acadians is that it’s not the same mutation as those found in French Canada. The mutation is identical to what Ashkenazi Jews have, and is said to be traced to one French couple who settled Acadia. Due to the founder effect, the mutated HEXA gene spread around the community through intermarriage and the rates of TS elevated in subsequent generations.

I found an article from 1990 talking about Tay Sachs in Iota, LA. Here
That's interesting. I know Jews are at higher risk of Tay-sachs due to the founder effect, but I didn't know Cajuns were as well.

I feel like any relatively insular group descended from a relatively small group of people has the founder effect and spuds as a result.
 
That's interesting. I know Jews are at higher risk of Tay-sachs due to the founder effect, but I didn't know Cajuns were as well.

I feel like any relatively insular group descended from a relatively small group of people has the founder effect and spuds as a result.
Not all examples of founder effects are dysgenic necessarily. Afrikaners descend from 26,000 people. But they don’t have Tay Sachs or other serious disorders. The reason being is their ethnic makeup: they’re a mix of Dutch, German, and French Protestants who mixed together.

Thing is their founding stock is larger compared to French Canadians (who descend from 8,000 ancestors), Cajuns at 3,000, Amish at 500 founders, and Ashkenazi Jews at 330 founders. So technically purebred Ashkenazis are the most inbred of the bunch. Their Tay Sachs rates is 1 in 25. Cajuns are less likely to get TS, although they still have higher rates compared to the general population. Weirdly though, some Irish people also have Tay Sachs, but not from inbreeding. Not sure where their TS mutation came from
 
I honestly don't know why I do it to myself and come into this thread and take a look sometimes.

These parents are so egotistical, using the life of retarded babies like vampires to feed their egos and shallowness to the world by claiming that their love for a pile of human cells incapable of comprehension means they are somehow good people.

That they found the need for everyone to know how good they were as parents I find disturbing as I do an exhibitionist that instead of showing off his cock, shows off their mangled children as extensions of their own tortured selves.
 
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